Channel "Istanbul" to be: Erdogan leads to the abrogation of the Montreux Convention


Apparently, the costly Istanbul Erdogan Canal will still be built, despite the apparent economic Turkey's problems. What does the implementation of this infrastructure project by Ankara mean for all the Black Sea countries, including Russia?


President Erdogan directly stated his intentions in the former Turkish capital:

We will build the Istanbul channel. But some say that we won’t do it ... What does Turkey have from the Montreux agreement - what did it gain, what did it lose?


A shipping channel should connect the Marmara and Black Seas, turning the historical part of Istanbul into an island. The width of the waterway will be 150 meters, the depth - 25 meters. With a project cost of $ 10 billion, an alternative route to the Bosphorus can pass up to 85 thousand vessels a year. The Turkish leader emphasizes safety and environmental issues.

Indeed, emergencies periodically occur, and in 1979 the Romanian Independent tanker collided with another vessel and caught fire, while a lot of oil fell into the water. But it’s hard not to notice how Recep Erdogan, under good pretext, consistently leads to the revision, or even the abolition of the international Montreux Convention. And this is a serious question, creating a dangerous and undesirable precedent.

Recall, this agreement was signed in 1936 in the Swiss town of Montreux at the initiative of Turkey itself, which intended to regain sovereignty over its Bosphorus and Dardanelles. According to the Convention, all countries are divided into Black Sea and non-Black Sea. The former can navigate their ships subject to prior notice to Ankara. Serious restrictions have been introduced for the latter on the tonnage of military vessels and the length of their stay in the Black Sea. In this case, Turkey has the right in the event of a threat to its relations to close the passage to foreign military courts.

The “dissenting opinion,” as usual, was among the Anglo-Saxons. When signing the agreement, London demanded the free right of access of its fleet to the Black Sea without the need for coordination with Turkey. Two cases of violation of the Convention are known these days, and both were carried out by American warships.

So, what can the construction of a bypass channel turn into?


First of all, this means the appearance of an artery with alternative water, which is not reflected in the document of the first half of the last century. After its launch, Ankara will have the right to raise the issue of reviewing, or even canceling, the Montreux Convention as outdated. The previous treaty will sink into oblivion, and the new one will be signed already under the dictation of Turkey, taking into account the interests of its allies. President Erdogan has already demonstrated how cleverly he manages to maneuver and defend his national interests. Given that Turkey is a member of NATO, there is no doubt that the rules of the new Convention will not benefit Russia and its Black Sea Fleet.

The most interesting thing is that of all our rulers at one time it was I.V. Stalin came as close as possible to the realization of the dream of control over the Turkish straits. The question was raised about reparations from the loser of Italy in the form of its former colony of Libya, and from Turkey - about the provision of the USSR naval base in the Dardanelles, which the British had broken off before. If it were our plan, the picture of today's world would be different.

But the question with Libya was resolved differently: Italy gave part of its fleet as reparations. The USSR did not refuse territorial claims to Turkey until the death of I.V. Stalin.
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  1. g1washntwn Offline
    g1washntwn (George Washington) 26 December 2019 14: 46
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    Turkey will not refuse the Convention, or the new one will even more “tighten the screws” in its the benefit and interests of NATO here would seem to remain completely on the sidelines. Because there is such a Cyprus question, where in case of aggravation, the Strait Convention allows you to severely limit the former "allies" in the military bloc in a maneuver. In addition to Cyprus, there are also commercial questions, who in their right mind would refuse a chicken laying golden eggs?
  2. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 26 December 2019 15: 56
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    The most interesting thing is that of all our rulers at one time it was I.V. Stalin came as close as possible to the realization of the dream of control over the Turkish straits. The question was raised about reparations from the loser of Italy in the form of its former colony of Libya, and from Turkey about the provision of the USSR naval base in the Dardanelles, which the British had broken off before. If it were our plan, the picture of today's world would be different.

    The same thing would happen to this base as Camranyu. A different picture could have been without Gorbachev.
  3. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 26 December 2019 16: 01
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    Channel "Istanbul" to be: Erdogan leads to the abrogation of the Montreux Convention

    - It is unlikely that Turkey will begin to dig this channel ... -tooly, such an event is too expensive for Turkey ... -And what will Turkey do with this channel ??? - Launch paper boats on it ...
    - Yes, and who needs this Black Sea ??? -Who there and what forgot ??? -USA, if they want, and so they will bring any of their troughs to the Black Sea ... and Turkey will not hinder .., but others, except the USA, do not care about the Black Sea ...
    -Only Russia is sitting locked with its weak Black Sea Fleet in this puddle ...
    - The Montreux Convention exists only because it strikes exclusively against Russia (and earlier the USSR) ... -And if these straits were really needed by the powers that be, they would have already spit on Turkey and taken away she has this “privilege” ... -And the Bosporus and the Dardanelles would become the Strait of Gibraltar long ago ... -Any travel is not forbidden ...
    1. commbatant Offline
      commbatant (Sergei) 26 December 2019 23: 04
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      gorenina91 (Irina)
      -Only Russia is sitting locked with its weak Black Sea Fleet in this puddle ...

      Contradict yourself ... RF strong KChF or weak, anyway, through the straits without permission of Turkey in the threatened period will not pass ....
      Suppose the straits became Russian, what further, she won’t be able to hold them, this is, secondly, after the passage of the straits, the KChF of the Russian Navy subsequently rests in the Strait of Gibraltar (the British are now hosting the Rock) and the Suez Canal, which can also to be taken under control by the empirialists ....
      KChF Russian Navy (strong or weak) will be equally quickly destroyed in the Mediterranean Sea, as in the Black ....
      1. PSih2097 Offline
        PSih2097 (Alexander Latvian) 28 December 2019 09: 45
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        Quote: commbatant
        anyway, through the straits without the permission of Turkey in the threatened period will not pass ....

        But this is already regarded as a declaration of war ... ()
        1. commbatant Offline
          commbatant (Sergei) 28 December 2019 16: 37
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          ... still not, read carefully the Monroe Convention .... or the text of the article -

          In this case, Turkey has the right in the event of a threat against it to close the passage to foreign military vessels
          fellow
  4. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 26 December 2019 17: 33
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    Good that ends well.
  5. Upmost Offline
    Upmost (Innocent) 26 December 2019 19: 23
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    Apparently, the costly Istanbul Erdogan Canal will still be built, despite Turkey’s obvious economic problems.

    In the process, regional semi-dictators always have one - they build bridges (due to economic problems of the country), the other - digs channels.
    Seek to emphasize their subtle majesty.

    Given that Turkey is a member of NATO, there is no doubt that the rules of the new Convention will not benefit Russia and its Black Sea Fleet.

    And here yes, there is a reason for the Russian Federation to strain the sphincter.
    If such a channel is built, Russian propagandists further fail chuckling Describe how US military vessels alone (and not of the largest caliber in fact) sometimes visit the Black Sea.
  6. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 December 2019 19: 24
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    Quote: 123
    The same thing would happen to this base as Camranyu. A different picture could have been without Gorbachev.

    Kamran Putin closed, if that.
    1. commbatant Offline
      commbatant (Sergei) 26 December 2019 22: 39
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      Quote: Marzhetsky
      Quote: 123
      The same thing would happen to this base as Camranyu. A different picture could have been without Gorbachev.

      Kamran Putin closed, if that.

      Right. And he did right at that moment in time ...

      Full eThe operation of the naval base and airfield at it continued until the beginning of the nineties. After that, economic difficulties forced a change in outlook on the use of Vietnamese facilities. Until the beginning of the XNUMXs, Russian soldiers remained in Kamrani, who were responsible for the operation of the existing facilities. Simultaneously the base was not used for its intended purpose, since the Russian Navy was no longer able to carry out constant duty in the southern Pacific Ocean and in the Indian waters.
      By mid-2002, all the personnel of the base had been exported to Russia, and the facilities were transferred to the Vietnamese side. Subsequently, Vietnam reconstructed some objects. For example, former military base airfield is now an international airport.

      https://topwar.ru/99669-rossiyskie-vooruzhennye-sily-v-kamrani-nespeshnoe-vozvraschenie.html

      “After the expiration of the contract for the use of the base between Vietnam and Russia, the Vietnamese government will use Camran on its own", - said in a statement to the Minister of Defense of Vietnam, Lieutenant General Pam Van Tra.

      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/935708

      Since the end of 2014, Kamran international airport has become a jump airfield for Russian Il-78 refueling aircraft, whose task was to ensure the combat duty of Tu-95MS missile carriers. The American command perceived the flights of Russian bombers as an unfriendly step that could lead to a complication of the situation in the region. For this reason, Washington sent to Hanoi a request for guarantees that Russia would not use the Vietnamese objects in order to worsen the military-political situation in Southeast Asia. As subsequent events showed, Vietnam preferred to continue cooperation with Russia, ignoring the claims of other countries.

      https://topwar.ru/99669-rossiyskie-vooruzhennye-sily-v-kamrani-nespeshnoe-vozvraschenie.html

      Apparently, in order to somehow compensate for the hassle of the Vietnamese arranged by the Americans, the Russian Federation created with an “0” submarine fleet for the Vietnamese Navy ...

      HANOI, January 20. / Corr. TASS Yuri Denisovich. The last of the six submarines of Project 636.1 Varshavyanka ordered by Vietnam from Russia was delivered to the port of Kamran in the central part of the country. Thus, the Russian Federation has completely completed the implementation of the contract for the delivery to the customer of the entire batch of boats, signed at the end of 2009.

      https://vpk.name/news/173156_vo_vetnam_
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  8. commbatant Offline
    commbatant (Sergei) 26 December 2019 22: 42
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    The title is again incomprehensible. The Convention does not apply in any way to new straits ... in principle, because of this, a new canal is being built ....
  9. Upmost Offline
    Upmost (Innocent) 27 December 2019 04: 09
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    In the Russian Federation, in general, everything is kind of unsuccessful.
    Aircraft, ships, tanks - all "saw" for about or over 10 years. Under the slender buzz of trolls in style: Are you a specialist, or where? You think there, above, they know less than yours, They all do the right thing. There is no hurry. They’ll finish it, launch it in a series, and the adversary will die of fear.

    Meanwhile, in reality, it turns out that the “completed crafts” of the Russian military-industrial complex are often very outdated at the time of the start of small-scale production.
  10. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 December 2019 06: 49
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    Quote: commbatant
    Channel "Istanbul" to be: Erdogan leads to the abrogation of the Montreux Convention

    It’s bad that you don’t understand. Reread again, there the logic is directly described.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 27 December 2019 10: 11
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      What does the channel have to do with the Montreux Convention? Why should it be canceled? Just its value will decrease.
  11. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 December 2019 06: 50
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    Quote: gorenina91
    It is unlikely that Turkey will begin to dig this channel ... -tooly, such an event is too expensive for Turkey ... -And what will Turkey do with this channel ??? - Launch paper boats on it.

    Apparently, Erdogan has his friends, builders. smile
  12. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 27 December 2019 08: 46
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    After the full launch of the North Sea. the shipping situation in Eurasia will change significantly and this channel will become unprofitable.
  13. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 December 2019 09: 46
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    Yes, some garbage.
    Why refuse the Convention, if it is already in your favor?
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