What does the fall of the Su-57 mean for Russia?

Towards the end of the year, an extremely unpleasant event for the national defense industry took place. The fifth-generation fighter Su-57 crashed and crashed just before the transfer of the aircraft to the troops. What will be the consequences for Russia of this image blow?

Su-57 is our “great hope”, a fighter designed to compete with the widely publicized American F-35. The aircraft has high maneuverability with stealth. In the Russian Air Force, a fighter must replace the Su-27. The Ministry of Defense planned to acquire 75 winged vehicles, of which 3 aviation regiments will be formed. Delivery was expected before the end of 2019.

In addition, Turkish President Recep Erdogan showed interest in buying the Su-57. Ankara is interested in creating its fifth generation fighter, is willingly participating in programs to develop such aircraft. Earlier, Erdogan’s initiative from Russia responded with a proposal to help design a Turkish fighter technology.

Apparently, now all these plans will be substantially adjusted. According to TASS, the Su-57 spontaneously entered a steep spiral during a test flight:

The plane began a rapid decline, and then a fall.

Until recently, the pilot tried to save the plane and was forced to eject. Fortunately, the incident cost no casualties.

The problems with the tail of a fighter who was about to enter combat duty is a very serious matter. We will have to conduct an examination, eliminate identified defects and deficiencies, re-conduct all tests. The deadlines for the Su-57 definitely shift sharply to the right, and the manufacturer gets a lot of money.

In terms of image, PE is very unpleasant. However, in itself, it does not at all mean the collapse of the project as such. Su-57 is an advanced aircraft in terms of technology. As you know, the more complex the technique, the more often it breaks. A lot of problems were identified and his American competitor in the face of the F-35.

One way or another, “childhood diseases” always come out; deficiencies have to be identified and eliminated already along the way. As a rule, the larger the series, the sooner the "shoals" appear. Su-57 is still released a very small batch. Perhaps it is not so bad that the problem was identified right now, at an early stage of the production cycle, and not in the troops.

In other words, for the Su-57 this incident is unpleasant, but not fatal.
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  1. Tektor Offline Tektor
    Tektor (Tektor) 25 December 2019 12: 18
    The fall of the Su-57 does not mean anything ... until the cause is clarified.
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  2. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 25 December 2019 23: 56
    The problems with the tail of a fighter who was about to enter combat duty is a very serious matter.

    That's it. And in this context, "patriots" look like fools, who immediately reassure everyone, saying that nothing is wrong, "he will fall down, shake himself off, move on."
    But another thing is striking - the fuss and window dressing with the Su-57 began in the early 2010s.
    Now is the end of 2019. They were about to release a small first portion of small o-production vehicles.
    Those. up to this point, in theory, should be already eliminate, least most significant problems.
    How then did it happen that at the planethat is about to go into the series, tail problems?
    But on the other hand, not very and surprisingly.
    With this Su-57 and earlier there were several problems:

    The current incident is the third in a biography of the Su-57. So, in 2011, at the MAKS air show, when accelerating an airplane with tail number 52, a flash was visible, after which he released a brake parachute and stopped within the runway. In June 2014, when landing in Zhukovsky, smoke was observed, and then a fire, which was quickly extinguished.

    And this is only what is widely known.
    Problems can be everywhere, but in the Russian Federation, in the case of PR projects, there is a huge amount of problems and shortcomings.
    And whatever one may say, the conclusion suggests itself is that in a powerful country there must be a developed industry of different caliber and type. And highly qualified and motivated personnel.
    And the "patchwork" industry of the Russian Federation cannot build really high-quality goods. Any category. Since it acts according to the method knee-high assembly made of grated components.
    Sorry for some rudeness, but in fact it is.
    1. Aleksey Glotov Offline Aleksey Glotov
      Aleksey Glotov (alexey glotov) 26 December 2019 16: 11
      Your rudeness is excusable ... there is no incompetence in this matter.
      Arguments at the level of a first-grader offended by something.
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 27 December 2019 09: 56
      Kesha, how much did your "VNA" design and launch into production of military equipment?
  3. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 26 December 2019 00: 13
    In terms of image PE is very unpleasant. However by itself it does doesn't mean project crash as such. Su-57 - an advanced aircraft in terms of technology

    Regarding the collapse - no, it does not. But this means continuing the fuss with the plane, which is already ten years old (since the start of the show).
    And during this time he was still not put in series. This not normal.
    As for the advanced aircraft - yes, advanced. For Russia, where such aircraft are absent.
    But the United States and China have already delivered fifth-generation aircraft to the series. These aircraft were produced in considerable numbers, which means that their shortcomings (which undoubtedly exist) are not as critical as those of the Su-57.
    The Su-57 has a double problem.
    On the one hand, it is not yet serial, which means that in fact the Russian Federation does not have a real fifth generation aircraft.
    On the other hand, even if it is not gray, it is inferior to competitors in stealth, and, as the recent incident has shown, also in quality.
    Those. in fact, the Russian Federation doesn’t even have fifth-generation full-fledged and brought to mind prototype, which is now ready for the series, and it remains only to let it out in the right amount.
    Instead, you have to continue "finishing", lasting already almost nine years.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 27 December 2019 10: 04
      Kesha, are you an expert in the design and construction of military equipment and weapons? How competent are you in this matter? Do you have a special education? What is your claim based on that the Su-57 is not a 5th generation vehicle? On the basis of what do you undertake to judge WHAT should correspond to the 5th generation and what should not? Give an example of a plane (at least) of the 5th generation and what criteria this type of military equipment should meet (as an expert).
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 31 December 2019 13: 18
      Everything is relative. The F35 has more problems, it takes longer to finish. According to Australian experts, this is a 3rd generation aircraft using 5th generation elements.


      And his price ...
      There is no particular optimism about his invisibility either. The F35, as a "new" combat aircraft, is generally puzzling, to put it mildly. You don't have to be an expert here either.
  4. General Black Offline General Black
    General Black (Gennady) 26 December 2019 10: 14
    Exactly does not mean anything. The flight was test, and when testing equipment it is used in critical, sometimes transcendental modes. Thereby revealing the shortcomings and shortcomings. So that there would be no problems in combat units at the most crucial moment.
  5. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 26 December 2019 18: 42
    Quote: Alekey Glotov
    The arguments at the level of something offended by a first grader

    Not offended, but indignant on the issue of the contrast between - the flow of show-off and propaganda (which, they say, that's really where and where, but in military technology we are cool), and - in fact, none of the samples of "wunderwaffe" promoted by the Kremlin over the past 10 years (T-50 / Su-57; T-14 Armata; Kurganets; Sarmat; Barguzin; Leader; Storm, and further on the list) has not been serially implemented.
    It’s just now that sometimes it turns them away from their empty cheeky pressure.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 27 December 2019 10: 06
      laughing Well, your cheeks haven’t been puffing up for a long time ... maybe this makes you look up? laughing
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  7. Port Offline Port
    Port 27 December 2019 10: 06
    Quote: UpperMost
    from their empty cheek

    Better remember how on the Independence Square I rode for glass beads.
  8. Vasil K. Offline Vasil K.
    Vasil K. (Vasil K.) 27 December 2019 22: 11
    The flight is a test, the product was at the plant for its "torment" ... FSEPROPALO no pasaran!