“Passed all the checks”: the prospects of the Su-57 after the crash of the first production board

Recently we Reported about the crash of the Su-57 fighter in the Khabarovsk Territory. After that, several Russian military experts spoke out about what had happened and reported on the prospects.

It should be noted that as one of the versions of the causes of the crash of the Su-57, 120 km from the Dzemgi airfield, is technical failure of the remote control system (EMDS) of the fighter. According to sources, this was the first production Su-57, which was planned to be transferred to the troops on December 27, 2019. Moreover, the incident is unlikely to become an obstacle to the entire PAK FA program - the creation of a fifth-generation Russian multi-functional fighter.

For example, according to the editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko (a member of the Public Council under the Ministry of Defense), the incident is not critical. The main thing is that the test pilot is alive (he managed to eject), and the loss of equipment happens both at the acceptance stage and during operation.

A thorough investigation will be carried out in order to establish the reasons. Means of objective control record all parameters of aircraft behavior. I think this is not critical for the fifth generation fighter program for the Russian Air Force. She is developing successfully

- said the expert "Izvestia".

In addition, Korotchenko has no doubt that the first batch of Su-57 will go to the Russian Air Force before the end of 2019.

In turn, the ex-commander of the 4th Air Force and Air Defense Army (1998-2001), the hero of Russia, chairman of the board of the non-profit organization Non-Governmental Pension Fund Aviapolis, Lieutenant General Valery Gorbenko (born 1946) said RIA Newsthat the incident occurred during testing of the engine for special programs at maximum speeds. He added that every plane is seriously checked before being sent to the troops. This is the only way to check the performance of all systems.

At the stage of flight tests of the engine, it is driven at maximum conditions and angles of attack. It checks how electronics, air intakes and other systems work. All production aircraft are tested by factory test pilots who are serious professionals before being transferred to the troops

- emphasized Gorbenko.

At the same time, on the radio Sputnik The former chief of the anti-aircraft missile troops (ZRV), special forces command of the Russian Air Force (2007-2009), Colonel Sergey Khatylev spoke. He said that the conclusions and causes of the incident can only be discussed after a thorough investigation.

These are tests ... You understand correctly: the probability of such an event - an accident - at the stage of testing is very high. We can speak separately only when the fighter is already part of the air force, and something happened to him. Then this is a completely different event. And now the tests are underway, and there can be anything. All this should be evaluated on a completely different scale. It is impossible to draw conclusions that reliability is reduced, that it is a poor-quality aircraft and the like. It can be everything: from a pilot error to an airplane assembly error, and a lot of other things

- said Sergey Khatylev.

We remind you that the contract for the supply of the Ministry of Defense of 76 Su-57 fighters was signed at the Army-2019 forum. So these fighters will still serve Russia.
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  1. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 24 December 2019 15: 45
    In addition, Korotchenko has no doubt that the first batch of Su-57 will go to the Russian Air Force before the end of 2019

    But this is stupid: on the nose the end of this very 2019. Here the plane crashes. Everything needs to be clarified.
    Who will drive the other models into the troops in such a hurry?
    Well, why be surprised - Korotchenko is one of the most "patriotic note-taking patriots."
    After the INF Treaty broke up, he was the first to say something about the fact that the Russian Federation can "resurrect" "Well done" (in the form of a virtual fetish-like "Barguzin", which is just what is heard.)
    And this despite the fact that at the end of 2017 it was officially announced that work on the Barguzin was stopped after the creation of the project documentation.
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 24 December 2019 17: 11
      Yes, Korotchenko is a well-known expert.
    2. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 25 December 2019 15: 22
      If you do not put out the lighter and put it in your pocket, does this mean that you need to completely abandon the lighters?
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    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 24 December 2019 16: 24
      This is just a test, why now fence the whole garden, it is not excluded for any equipment, and even more new, the F-22 also fell, but none of this tragedy did, but the most thorough conclusions from what happened is simply necessary.
      1. Upmost Offline Upmost
        Upmost (Innocent) 24 December 2019 16: 47
        What do I mean - it would be nice so that the planes did not crash, and the Loshariki did not sink.
        And so that people are alive. They have families, children, etc.
        As for the airplane part, they have been busy with it so much, but still some kind of "raw material". Well, at least the pilot survived.
        However, such incidents tarnish the reputation of the already "overripe" newest non-serial aircraft, from which the whole world should be in awe. So far it does not work ...
        1. Ferropanda Offline Ferropanda
          Ferropanda (Dmitriy) 25 December 2019 10: 25
          Quote: UpperMost
          As for the airplane part, they have been busy with it so much, but still some kind of "raw material". Well, at least the pilot survived.

          And they made the F-35 in a year, and it never fell, and the pilots did not die in it.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 25 December 2019 23: 14
            Not everyone saw your sarcasm.
        2. Observer1 Offline Observer1
          Observer1 (Anatoly) 25 December 2019 12: 08
          Nerd, in order to talk about the great, drop to the ground and read the simplest documents about creating prototypes (OO) of technology. In common people, this is called GOST. So, for the delivery of OO to production, everything that was created earlier according to this model is completely forgotten from the word, and the technology is developed again with all the processes that follow from this.
          GOST allows several stages of the creation of the TOE.
          The creation of an OO - letter "O" - working out the general technology and obtaining the actual sample itself,
          - Letter "O1" - small-scale production - bringing the sample to the declared parameters and obtaining their maximum value
          - Letter "A" - serial production - bringing industrial processes to the optimum when creating a sample.
          At all these stages, there is a change in the design and technological documentation, therefore, the verification, testing and verification processes are carried out from 0 zero.
          That is why it takes such a long time from the development period to the delivery to the troops of the sample. To you, couch experts, this is not clear. For you, a post on Instagram and an article in the VAK magazine are one and the same.
          So those who understand and know the process, and those who hype on the news, are different people from the word at all.
          There is a good expression "Y ... the law is not written".
          This is about people like you. For production, you are what you are, what is not, they do not notice you. So you can practice wit and technical literacy (I strongly doubt you have the latter) in the circle of your young pimply companions, for whom the term "Import Substitution" is the top of scientific thought, but not in the chat where there are specialists from this field of knowledge. Look funny and dimwitted.
          1. Upmost Offline Upmost
            Upmost (Innocent) 25 December 2019 21: 16
            I noticed and appreciated the "fine-grained" rudeness of your answer. But this does not change the essence.
            Thesis on the Su-57:
            I’m not sure that this plane is exactly the fifth generation. With stealth, very noticeable problems.
            The engine is also not what it should be. Of another not yet.
            Rockets those you need not yet either.
            As well as a full-time staff.
            So for now, the Su-57 is just a "status air fetish" used to support the Kremlin's cheekiness.
            It is no coincidence, after all, it was the Chief Cheek Inflator who insisted that they be released as many as 76 pieces, against 10-15, as previously planned.
            1. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
              Astronaut (San Sanych) 26 December 2019 12: 18
              The observer answered you correctly, but it is difficult for you, as a person very distant (judging by your posts) from the military-industrial complex.
          2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex (Secret information) 25 December 2019 21: 18
            Anatoly, you call the one to whom you are addressing, otherwise your comment can be stuck to anyone.
  3. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 24 December 2019 17: 06
    This happens with any new technology, it's normal. Everything will be adjusted, I hope it will fly. Just do not ever loudly about "unparalleled in the world".
    1. cmonman Offline cmonman
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) 25 December 2019 21: 52
      ... it is never necessary to loudly about "which has no analogues in the world.

      Not talking about “having no analogues in the world” is against the mantra for the electorate. He, the electorate, will not support those who release / implement / develop not the very, very duper, otherwise they will ask the question “why do we need this?”, After which it will be very difficult to force to sit in “trenches / encirclement”.
  4. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 24 December 2019 21: 48
    I will tell you, gentlemen, "adyn is a clever thing", just do not be offended, because this is the pure truth - no, the Russian Federation did not have and will not have its own fifth generation fighter - the level of technology development is not the same, and the finances do not allow such large-scale projects. For starters, you would have made your own decent electric kettle. lol
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 25 December 2019 21: 20
      Miron, are you the very "expert" you mentioned at the beginning of the article?
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 26 December 2019 05: 33
        Quote: A.Lex
        from the most "expert"

        Yes, there is no need to be an expert ...
        1. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
          Astronaut (San Sanych) 26 December 2019 12: 20
          Yeah, you have to do verbiage)
  5. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 24 December 2019 22: 38
    Aircraft factory conducted factory tests. This was reported by TASS.
    The pilot is alive.

    The serial aircraft will be, when all pass factory tests, it will be decided that the aircraft manufacturing technology и the aircraft itself meets the necessary requirements. Then, in fact, the production of serial cars will begin.
  6. Port Offline Port
    Port 25 December 2019 10: 30
    Quote: FerroPanda
    They made the F-35s in a year, and it never crashed, and the pilots did not die in it.

    But Boeing and shuttles have a different opinion on this matter.