Three reasons why Russia will have to solve the "Ukrainian question"


The end of this year was marked by a certain decrease in the degree of tension between Moscow and Kiev. No, this is by no means “warming”, not “normalization” and not even “reset” at all. And yet: a new gas contract, the conclusion of which almost no one already believed on both sides of the border, has been signed. The next exchange of prisoners is being prepared, in the Donbass there is no at least full-scale hostilities.


However, even taking into account all these positive aspects, of course, the fact remains that sooner or later it will be necessary to “deal” with the “downland” globally and systematically. To do this as a phenomenon, the further, the more turning into a problem not only for Russia alone.

Crimea: eternal sanctions or eternal shame?


No matter how much Vladimir Vladimirovich insists that the question of returning to the historical homeland of the peninsula, according to the will expressed by its inhabitants, is “finally settled”, these words are true, we will be honest, only for one country - Russia. Her refusal of her own, repeatedly confirmed position, fully paid for by the most serious foreign policy and economic problems will mean not just shame, but eternal and indelible shame. However, the current state of affairs is extremely difficult to call acceptable for our state. The freshest example: as soon as the president solemnly opened the movement of trains along the Crimean bridge and started ... Who just did not get out with "deep condemnation" and "sincere indignation": the European Union diplomatic representatives immediately accused Russia of "violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine", and a little later they were joined by the UN Secretary General Antonio Gutterisch himself, who also began to broadcast something about “violated sovereignty” and “violation of resolutions” of the organization headed by him, which ovno condemn. " About the rest, a lower rank, and nothing to say. All the arguments of domestic diplomats, including my dear head, Mr. Lavrov, regarding the “understanding by serious people in the West” of the Russian affiliation of the Crimea, this is, I'm sorry, the lyrics. In reality, we have incessant “raids” that go sideways to the country.

The “hellish sanctions” adopted on the eve of the US Senate, in addition to the ravings about “interference in the elections”, contain a very specific reference to “aggression against Ukraine”. Whether such exists in reality is entrusted to be determined by the State Department. Well, and for these “not rust”, be trustworthy. The very launch of Russian trains there may well qualify, as an act, it will become with them. For those who doubt, I’ll quote a verbatim quote from the statement of the Chargé d'Affaires ai of the United States to Ukraine William Taylor: “The United States will retain sanctions against Russia until it illegally occupies Crimea. And if the Russians take more steps in this direction ... we are likely to introduce more sanctions! ” After that, the words of the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Vadim Priestayko, who recently declared that the “Crimean problems” need to be solved “by other methods and mechanisms” than those used to resolve the situation in the Donbass, sound quite natural. That is, one must understand - not by negotiations ... But how? In Washington, apparently, they think they know the answer. And they don’t intend to reckon with Moscow’s opinion about the “finally resolved issue” in the least. Therefore, in order for this sore subject to be truly closed to us once and for all, something must change very seriously and radically. Either in the USA, or in Ukraine. What is more real? Think for yourself ...

Bridgehead at the doorstep


Almost immediately after the New Year holidays, on January 15, a regular meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Commission should be held in Brussels. They will discuss the results of the annual national cooperation program and will be determined with “priorities” for the year 2020. The North Atlantic Alliance, almost from the moment Kiev acquired its “non-fallowing state”, has been conducting a cynical game with it, which fully fits into the formula: “to promise does not mean to marry”. Membership in this bloc Ukraine in its current form and with current problems can not be seen as their own ears. And nevertheless, drop by drop, step by step, and the "creeping" integration of the country into the sphere of influence of NATO, both military and political, is still happening. Naturally, after the "Maidan" this process pulled ahead at a faster pace. The abolition of non-aligned status, and then the consolidation of the desire for "membership" in the Constitution, Kiev was not brought one iota closer to the Alliance, but the North Atlanticists themselves were significantly untied. “Sea Breeze”, “Rapid Trident”, “Braking defense” is far from a complete list of NATO military games that are held on Ukrainian soil. Yavorov landfill has long, in fact, turned into the base of this unit. Next in turn is more than likely the appearance of his military facilities in Kharkov, Mariupol, Sumy region (the city of Shostka, where the largest chemical plant focused on military products is located) and other places. At military parades in Kiev, NATO soldiers march not even at home, but as conquerors in the occupied territory. Which, in general, corresponds to reality exactly 100%. What is the conversation about if the "National Security and Defense Strategy of Ukraine" was developed and presented to reporters on December 16 by British Army Colonel Glen Grant, an expert of the Ukrainian Institute for the Future in National Security and Defense?

The United States military presence is a separate issue altogether. These host in the "nezalezhnoy" completely shamelessly. It got to the point that they not only arm and train Ukrainian warriors, but, in fact, take a direct part in their hostilities against the people of Donbass. A rather striking example is the appearance there not so long ago of an American UAV Skyraider, which conducted aerial reconnaissance of the territory of the DPR and LPR, as well as, according to the Republicans, who carried out the adjustment of the APU artillery fire. Ukraine has no such drones in service! And besides, this “bird” circled over the Donbass exactly when high-ranking military officials officially registered with the US Embassy in Ukraine were on the demarcation line. And this is just one of the known cases. A very interesting fact - just recently, the Ukrainian edition of the Ukrainian Military Pages began to disseminate information about the likely transition of the local armed forces entirely to American weapons. And it’s not about some rifles or “hamviks” of the last degree of ushatnosti, but about the most serious technology up to Apache attack helicopters, F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets and MIM-104 Patriot air defense systems. Crazy Wishlist Again? Most likely, but ... Against this background, the very real order of the General Staff there on the universal study by all military personnel, regardless of ranks and positions, of the English language does not look so ridiculous. On the one hand, this is the fulfillment of the always-lasting principle: “a dirty native must understand the white sahib in a word”. But on the other hand, it may well serve as a confirmation that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are really going to rearm "for everything American."

Export of the “revolution”, export of terrorism


It should be understood that Ukraine has become a bridgehead, training ground and training ground, not only for the Pentagon, but also for the CIA and the mass of other American "offices", which are much less well-known to ordinary citizens, but no less harmful. And just such organizations just love to turn territories in chaos, plunged into anarchy and controlled directly from Washington, into their own estates. Naturally, using them at the same time for the darkest and most dirty tricks. For example, as another "hotbed" for terrorists. It is not for nothing that the USA has been stubbornly and persistently lobbying for several years for the idea of ​​creating “autonomy for the Crimean Tatars” on the border with Crimea, in the Kherson region, and, in fact, an enclave for Muslim fundamentalists. The anti-Russian orientation of this project is quite obvious, but it is not only a matter of it. Unfinished igilovites, after all, must also be put somewhere. The funny thing is that the first "Islamic terrorist" from the "uncovered" was detained just in Poland! And do not laugh - Pavel Solokh, the head of the Polish National Security Bureau, was not at all laughing when he talked about how a certain Muhhamed, a former Ukrainian named Maxim who converted to Islam, was imbued with the ideas of jihad so deeply that in all seriousness planned to arrange an explosion in a crowded shopping center in the Polish city of Pulawy. So Europeans should seriously think about where the paths of the Islamists will stretch, which Washington is so diligently trying to help "build a nest" in the South "uncovered". At the same time, it is recommended to consider the experience of the Chinese comrades, who already quite specifically became acquainted with Ukrainian extremists on their land.

This, of course, is about members of ultranationalist and frankly Nazi groups, such as the Ukrainian Tradition and Order, Honor, and the National Corps, which were fully noted during the riots that have plagued Hong Kong for months. These malacholnyh not only do not hide their own participation in the "Maidan" there, but also boast of it in full on social networks. Perhaps you admit that the “Ukrainian patriots” who had been frozen all over their heads fled there on their own initiative? Very vain. The likelihood of this is zero. It makes one not to believe in it even because for such voyages, at least a lot of money is needed ... And most importantly, Washington’s extreme interest in the complete, if possible, severance of relations between Kiev and Beijing, which the Americans after the scandal with Motor Sich »They’re not even trying to deny it. A rather eloquent fact is that the Free Hong Kong Center (FHKC –Ukrainian Center of Free Hong Kong), positioning itself as an “independent information project”, stupidly announces its “confrontation with the Chinese threat to Ukraine” as its main goal. So whose "ears" are sticking out here? There is no doubt that the money from there, and the instructions. According to reports, in addition to Hong Kong, Ukrainian militants over the past few years have “lit up” already in half the world: in Georgia and Serbia, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. There is nothing to say about Belarus ... In a word, wherever there was not just street riots or serious attempts to arrange such ones, while American interests were visible. After all this, the truth doesn’t seem so far-fetched that the “Lubyanka shooter” Yevgeny Manyurov had connections with an extremist organization whose headquarters are in Ukraine. What is not there! In the sense of the most diverse "Maidan" -terrorist evil ...

The most unpleasant thing is that it is impossible in any way to blame the revelry of the gangster-nationalist element in the country on the "weakness" of the local authorities, as some people are trying to do, while expressing the hope that everything will "work out on its own" and "resolve." Alas, Ukraine has made such things its state policies. It seems final and irrevocable. As recently as December 23, Vladimir Zelensky signed a law granting the status of combatants to all “volunteers”. That is - the most vile and notorious Nazi thugs, stained with blood on the very top. This is in addition to almost a quarter of a million of those who in the country have the status of "anti-terrorist operation heroes." In the Ukrainian media, despite the eve of the holidays, hysteria is swirling with might and main over the new “some hundred there” - 110 warriors who found their inglorious end in Donbass in 2019 ... There is no need to build illusions. With Ukraine in the form in which it has become, will have to understand. And it is not so important today - with or without transit.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 24 December 2019 08: 55
    -2
    The title is determined immediately by the author.
    But! As Putin said there: "We should be glad that trade is growing."
    This is the global direction of the solution.
    Money does not smell, children do not suffer, trenches for the discontented are at hand ...
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 25 December 2019 07: 22
      -8
      Leave Ukraine alone !!!
      1. Don36 Offline Don36
        Don36 (Don36) 25 December 2019 07: 34
        +8
        If you are such a fan of Ukraine, maybe you should leave the territory and sites of the Russian Federation and permanent residence alone, to the Censor. Not?
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  3. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 24 December 2019 09: 15
    +6
    Great confusion will soon begin in Ukraine, for life there is getting worse and worse, and banderlogs are running around the streets (it was enough for someone to mind to let them out of their cells), they contribute to people's discontent. Ukraine will begin to divide into independent republics like Yugoslavia. By the way, this is also understood in the West, they are pushing hard to sell land in Ukraine, they want to take their debt with land, since then there will be nobody to take it with.
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 24 December 2019 10: 32
      -11 qualifying.
      Athenogen - and where have you been told about this, that life there is worse and worse?
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 24 December 2019 10: 53
        +5
        Not where, but who. My relatives live in Kharkov, I will say more - they all sleep and see when their mother Russia will be taken under wing. Now organize a referendum and, like in Crimea, everyone will vote for Russia.
        1. beeper Offline beeper
          beeper 25 December 2019 00: 17
          +2
          Throughout the Southeast, occupied by w / Bandera ameroholuyami, people "sleep and see", because from the inadequate "Maidan authorities" we reasonably wait only for the next "dirty tricks", the escalation of the civil war and further impoverishment ... , and NOT "sentenced" by his successor WE ("PoroshenkoYatvoyPorogovor!"), having learned about Russian privileges on the price of gas for Ukraine, instead of rejoicing in the state like this, immediately "patriotically" advocated further "stinking gas schemes ( as his godfather called them - "orange" Dioxin!) "on the rise in the cost of natural gas for the Ukrainian population and the remnants of the working industry ...

          But such a referendum, under the protection of "polite people", had to be held in 2014, when many Russian people were alive and the majority of the indigenous population of the Southeast, suddenly faced face to face with the rabid Western Banderodogs who had thrown off the hypocritical masks of "toleration", instigated by their guides-klepto "w / Bandera", then desperately believed that "Russia does not abandon its own!" .... and not to recognize, by the Russian authorities, de facto and de jure, the Galitsai-w / Bandera Maidan coup and For decades, continue to sponsor the Russophobic "Ukrainian" Kiev authorities for decades (while Russophobic, anti-Russian and completely amerodependent, in fact, there were those who did not share the "power feed" with their more radical colleagues in the redneck gang of "Ukropolitikum", who fled "uncontested European integrators "-kroderibanchiki Yanyk-Azarov, now safely on the" UNEARNED ", who are sybaric in Russia and," calling out Sirk's eyes (without shame and conscience!) ", also hanging their paws Shu on the ears of the Russians who sheltered them with "stories" about their "pro-Russian" offended by the banderlog!)!
        2. commbatant Offline commbatant
          commbatant (Sergei) 29 December 2019 15: 04
          +2
          Quote: Athenogen
          they all sleep and see when their mother-Russia will take away under the wing.

          It’s not harmful to dream, the Holodrans voted many times for sovereign Ukraine, the first time (and with the whole Russian-speaking majority) when they voted for leaving the Union ... so that they don’t have any mother in Russia, they themselves refused it, tc . Ukrainians are Russians who betrayed Russians ...
      2. Ivan Semenov Offline Ivan Semenov
        Ivan Semenov (Ivan Semenov) 24 December 2019 12: 47
        +5
        Afinogen is absolutely right, I live in Ukraine and I see that the life of the majority is getting worse and worse. Arguments like "look at the filled restaurants and the number of new cars on the road" are childish. The standard of living of the country's population is assessed according to other criteria.
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  5. Alexander Ra Offline Alexander Ra
    Alexander Ra (Alexander) 24 December 2019 10: 49
    0
    Order on the outskirts is the business of Russia and no one else.
    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 29 December 2019 15: 08
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Ra
      Order on the outskirts is the business of Russia and no one else.

      Present a list where the Russian Federation should ensure order at the expense of its people?
      1. Alexander Ra Offline Alexander Ra
        Alexander Ra (Alexander) 6 January 2020 13: 19
        -1
        Tell us - who in your house - except you - is putting things in order? If you think that the three traitors in Bialowieza correctly resolved, then the question is removed.
        1. commbatant Offline commbatant
          commbatant (Sergei) 6 January 2020 14: 38
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Ra
          If you think that the three traitors in Bialowieza correctly resolved, then the question is removed.

          Why three? I don’t see a single traitor there.
          Two presidents of the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR, not traitors, they are stupid people, to leave a country where they have had a good time, it really needs to be talents, and besides, they are probably traitors to their peoples, but not for the peoples of the RSFSR. So, in terms of the betrayal of their peoples who voted to preserve the USSR, they are probably traitors ... For me, who was born in the RSFSR, the presidents of the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR are not traitors.
          As for B.N.E. - he is not a traitor, since he saved the RSFSR from parasites (the BSSR does not belong to them) and made it possible to develop independently, spending resources on the welfare of the peoples of the RSFSR ...
          Could the USSR have been preserved, I think so. Of course, not in full force, but it was possible in the form of the Confederation, for example .... others. the matter is, how much was the RSFSR needed, if the USSR was preserved in any other way, the impoverishment of the peoples of the RSFSR in favor of other republics of the Union would continue ... well, why did the RSFSR need such a Union?
          It is easy to be kind at the expense of your people ...



          B.N.E. I consider a traitor only for his economic policy in the Russian Federation in the 90s and the impoverishment of Russian citizens ....
          1. Alexander Ra Offline Alexander Ra
            Alexander Ra (Alexander) 4 March 2020 11: 29
            0
            Let the Russian people fall into three pieces, but throw off the parasites - reasoning in the spirit - "I will frostbite my ears to spite my grandmother."
  6. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 24 December 2019 10: 56
    +3
    At all times, as soon as one state became stronger militarily, it attacked the less weak. Never strong did not allow the weak to talk with oneself on equal terms! But weapons appeared that war had become almost impossible. Then an economic war became possible. 33% of the global economy is in the USA, Russia has 1%. Please note that Russia is prohibited from acquiring property in Ukraine, the prohibition of the Russian language, etc. Russia was only allowed to finance a power that destroys ALL Russian! And the KREMLIN happily agreed with this, and presents it as a victory. CONCLUSION - Russia will have to understand and rake it all, of course, but it will be only after Putin!
    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 29 December 2019 15: 12
      +1
      Quote: steel maker
      Please note that Russia is prohibited from acquiring property in Ukraine, the prohibition of the Russian language, etc. Russia was only allowed to finance a power that destroys ALL Russian! And the KREMLIN happily agreed with this, and presents it as a victory.

      Evidence, my young patriot cheer ...?

      CONCLUSION - Russia will have to understand and rake it all, of course, but it will be only after Putin!

      Wrong conclusion. RF to

      acquire property in Ukraine

      just increase the territory of LDNR to the detriment of Ukraine, by the hands of the Ukrainians themselves ....
  7. Port Offline Port
    Port 24 December 2019 12: 22
    +2
    And how happy the collapse of the USSR. They were glad in vain, the collapse is always followed by mutual claims and war, b / Ukraine is slowly being boiled like a frog for a war with Russia, and the squadrons for Svidomo fines and military criminals, hegemordor and NATO have already been prepared.
  8. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 24 December 2019 15: 03
    +1
    Quote: Athenogen
    they all sleep and see when their mother Russia will take away under the wing

    I will tell you more. In cities such as Kharkov, they expected that:
    1) the Russian Federation will not allow the anti-Russian Maidan at hand (and who else should have prevented the anti-RUSSIAN Maidan, if not herself RUSSIA, and in your "soft underbelly"?
    And at that time, the note trolls "sang" that while the Russian Federation cannot - the Olympics "interfere")
    2) The Russian Federation will not allow the victory of the Maidan after 3 months of "standing", but the Maidan eventually "won". And the Russian Federation, meanwhile, was happy with the medals from the Olympics (many of which have now been taken away from it). And then the Olympics were most important of all, that there was some kind of another Maidan near the dill)
    3) Get down to business after the Olympics.
    And yes, she took it. Partially. Tactically. The Crimeans were really saved from the Maydan people (although from the current laws and security forces of the Russian Federation, I think that the Crimeans after this time are no longer very enthusiastic. But, as they say, they saw what they bought, now eat.)
    And Donbass, which, due to its stupidity, did not understand where exactly and who exactly these notorious "friends" were (and the Nano-genius did not bother with them, the poor-minded, this is about bu kven n o r z z e in t b - everything dodged, like in a frying pan), turned into a bargaining chip, a screen for the games of the Russian Federation with the West into "cat and mouse".

    So, I admit, they hoped that it was the Russian Federation that would stop this mess (and how could the citizens themselves stop it when it came to the coup prepared, sponsored, and curated by the United States? Where are ordinary citizens of Ukraine, and where is the United States? What can such citizens / could they oppose here, except for ridiculous salaries?
    And just don't talk about "not getting off the sofas").

    But now they no longer hope, and do not sleep, and do not see.

    They simply understand that they will continue to live in complete * opera, and that they no longer have to hope for anything good.
    1. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 24 December 2019 18: 45
      +4
      Here you are not quite right, Innokenty, remember 2014, when whole trains of Galicians landed in Kharkov and tried to take the city into their own hands, but the Kharkov guys did not allow them to do this, and blocked them everywhere, but ... Dopa and Gepa, the then governor and mayor of the Kharkiv region simply betrayed these guys, saying that they had agreed to return the nationalists to their homes, and that the city would be calm, and the guys believed their leaders, and most went home, to their families, because the confrontation lasted several days , and the Nazis who took advantage of this organized a "night of long knives" in Kharkiv the very next night, rode in gangs around the city, broke into the apartments of Kharkiv residents on a tip, beat them and took them to the local SBU - that's just why the Kharkiv region did not become a KhNR after such a betrayal of its bosses and terror sown by nationalists.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 24 December 2019 19: 20
        -9
        But the Kharkovites did not have a war.
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 25 December 2019 07: 04
          -8
          The only thing was that there was not enough KhNR. There are already two "people's republics".
          1. commbatant Offline commbatant
            commbatant (Sergei) 29 December 2019 15: 48
            +1
            Quote: Arkharov
            The only thing was that there was not enough KhNR. There are already two "people's republics".

            Maybe you didn’t have enough. Senior comrades will want to be the People’s Republic of Hungary .... and they won’t ask you ...
            1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 30 December 2019 09: 30
              -3
              commbatant There is one wonderful proverb, by the way, Ukrainian:

              Fool Dumka Bagatі баг.
              1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                commbatant (Sergei) 30 December 2019 19: 55
                +1
                Quote: Arkharov
                commbatant There is one wonderful proverb, by the way, Ukrainian:

                Fool Dumka Bagatі баг.

                You have already written this saying ten times on this site ...

                The constant quoting of other people's thoughts, indicates the absence of their own ....
                1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 December 2019 10: 31
                  -2
                  commbatant Once again, another caught in a lie. If you find one more time, I will publicly apologize to you and call myself a complete id-ot. And I won’t write a word here anymore. I wait, the word is yours.
                  1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                    commbatant (Sergei) 31 December 2019 15: 54
                    0
                    He is among your deleted comments, was published no earlier than the last two weeks ...
                    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 December 2019 16: 36
                      -3
                      Do not lie. Caught in a lie, so do not deny, lover of unleashing war and "people's republics".
                      1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                        commbatant (Sergei) 31 December 2019 18: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: Arkharov
                        Do not lie. Caught a lie, so don’t unlock.

                        There literally the same quote was .....

                        war lover

                        Which ones? And where I wrote about this ...
                      2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 1 January 2020 11: 13
                        -3
                        commbatant
                        There literally the same quote was .....

                        - What date and at what time was this record supposedly? When was it supposedly deleted? Let's turn to the site administration for help? Turn around with your usual lie, like in a frying pan.
                      3. commbatant Offline commbatant
                        commbatant (Sergei) 1 January 2020 12: 48
                        0
                        Quote: Arkharov
                        commbatant
                        There literally the same quote was .....

                        - What date and at what time was this record supposedly? When was it supposedly deleted? Let's turn to the site administration for help? Turn around with your usual lie, like in a frying pan.

                        Let's. I remember the news was about Israel .....
    2. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 29 December 2019 15: 47
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      But the Kharkovites did not have a war.

      They will not have anything, from the word in general, and not only war ...
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 30 December 2019 02: 09
        -2
        How is it in the civil war? White come, rob. The Reds will come, rob. In the Kharkov region, shells on both sides do not fall on residents' houses; people do not die. While there is better than in the Donbass. I wonder who puts my cons, would like to see the war in Kharkov?
        1. commbatant Offline commbatant
          commbatant (Sergei) 30 December 2019 20: 32
          +1
          Quote: Oleg Rambover
          I wonder who puts my cons

          Here, many are sitting because of them, where else can you put them ....

          would you like to see the war in Kharkov?

          Yes, everyone will not care whether it is in Kharkov or not ... if in Kharkov, they don’t give a damn about the war in the Donbass, then why, for example, will the Dnieper cry about the war in Kharkov?
          Do not sell your land for the extraction of shale gas and the cultivation of GM agricultural products, it will begin with you, the empirialists are not Russian, they will not clatter with you ...
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 31 December 2019 00: 09
            -2
            Oh how everything is up and running. Well, dream on. War is always bad.
            I am a citizen of the Russian Federation. Are you threatening the Russian Federation with war? Because of oil? That's funny. Holiday greetings!
            1. commbatant Offline commbatant
              commbatant (Sergei) 31 December 2019 02: 45
              +1
              Quote: Oleg Rambover
              About how everything is started. Well, dream on. War is always bad.

              I did not say a word that I was dreaming of war ....
          2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 December 2019 17: 29
            -3
            ..if in Kharkov, they don’t give a damn about the war in the Donbass, why, for example, in the Dnieper will they cry about the war in Kharkov?

            - with a head how? Or are you already celebrating? Is one war unleashed enough?
            1. commbatant Offline commbatant
              commbatant (Sergei) 31 December 2019 18: 31
              +3
              Quote: Arkharov
              ... if in Kharkov, do not care about the war in the Donbass, then why, for example, in the Dnieper will cry about the war in Kharkov? "

              - with a head how? Or are you already celebrating? Is one war unleashed enough?

              Is it with your head how? The war in the Donbass was launched by Ukrainians, and Ukrainians also reconciled with it, and not ....
              Idle or not, it's none of your business ....
              100% of Ukrainians outside of Donbass are hosposniki, so I don’t give a damn how many more wars in Ukraine will unleash the power of Ukraine, chosen by Ukrainians ...
              1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 1 January 2020 11: 06
                -2
                commbatant I had no idea that some well-known muddy personalities were Ukrainians. Good - prompted, now I will know and tell everyone.
                1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                  commbatant (Sergei) 1 January 2020 12: 55
                  +2
                  Quote: Arkharov
                  I had no idea that some well-known muddy personalities were Ukrainians.

                  You did not know that Turchinov (who gave the order to start the ATO), Poroshenko and Zelensky did not stop her - Ukrainians?
                  Or it may be that the oligarchs of Ukraine, who created and financed good bats for their participation, incl. in the anti-terrorist operation zone, are Ukrainians?
                  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 1 January 2020 13: 02
                    -3
                    commbatant And why did the ATO even begin? Can you tell?
                  2. commbatant Offline commbatant
                    commbatant (Sergei) 1 January 2020 15: 42
                    +2
                    Quote: Arkharov
                    commbatant And why did the ATO even begin? Can you tell?

                    Due to the coup staged in Kiev by a local oligarch, the world behind the scenes (the US and the EU), former Komsomol members who have become anti-Russian politicians in Ukraine, "loving" Ukraine (and having 2-5 foreign passports) and working for the world behind the scenes, nationalists who receive support from - the world behind the scenes, anti-Russian politicians of Ukraine and liberals of the Russian Federation working for the world behind the scenes (and having accounts and real estate in the US and the EU) ..... but not supported by the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions ...
                    The first 5 years were difficult for the population of Donbass, now it’s easier, because they are fully connected economically, humanitarianly and politically with the Russian Federation, the latter acts as the guarantor of the existence of the LPR and the DPR (this was directly stated by the GDP) ...
                    For khatoskrainiks of Ukraine, living in Ukraine outside Donbass, there comes a "moment of truth", tk. No one gave a guarantee of the existence of Ukraine itself, the country is being de-industrialized, entire sectors of the economy are disappearing (irrevocably), the able-bodied population of Ukraine (the best part of it) is leaving to work abroad, etc.
                    The entire budget works to pay off external debt and the military budget ...
                    ... the housekeepers are ready to endure the hardships and humiliations of their leadership, hoping that the EU membership will be a prize for them, however, no one promised housekeeping to the EU / NATO, even when distributing cookies on the Maidan .... well, the former Komsomol members ( oligarchs and leaders of Ukraine) can always use their passports of foreign states (in which they have accounts and real estate) ....
                    The Russian Federation knew about the Maidan, tried to organize a transitional peaceful period before the change of power, and prepared pro-Russian forces in the Donbass in advance, Crimea without the Russian Federation, always and consistently advocated integration with the Russian Federation (unlike the Donbass, the referendum was held there only before the start of the ATO). ..
                  3. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 1 January 2020 17: 53
                    -4
                    For hatskraynikov Ukraine living in Ukraine outside the Donbass ..

                    - I look, you directly hate the vast majority of the population of Ukraine, which did not fall for your criminal adventures.
                  4. commbatant Offline commbatant
                    commbatant (Sergei) 1 January 2020 17: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: Arkharov
                    I look, you directly hate the vast majority of the population of Ukraine

                    She is indifferent to me (however, like them I .... and my people) ...

                    did not fall for your criminal adventures

                    Which ones, for example?
                  5. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 2 January 2020 10: 04
                    -3
                    commbatant I mean personally your, seemingly modern, appeals to spread, hardly peacefully, the practice of the "people's republics" to the rest of the peacefully living part of the generally recognized state, a member of the UN, in the form of stillborn "KhNR".
                  6. commbatant Offline commbatant
                    commbatant (Sergei) 2 January 2020 20: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: Arkharov
                    in the form of stillborn "KhNR".

                    Where did you get the idea that the stillborn ...? Or if they are offended by the Kharkiv region in the form of the KhNR, then it is enough, Ukraine has the same relation to everything that is built in the Kharkiv region, as the "great" Ukrainians have to the Egyptian pyramids ...
                    If the Russian Federation will be necessary for your safety form hnr then я only I will support her and I don’t give a damn about

                    recognized state member of the UN

                    and no one will stop the Russian Federation ...
                    I advise you to watch the empirealistic documentary "Life after People", so drawing an analogy with this film, we can say that sooner or later the original Russian lands (squandered by the Russian Tsars and Bolsheviks) will return from their unlucky and ungrateful "owners" back to the Russian Federation .. .This is how nature works ...
              2. plabu Offline plabu
                plabu 1 January 2020 21: 32
                +2
                Quote: Arkharov
                ...- I look, you directly hate the vast majority of the population of Ukraine, which did not fall for your criminal adventures.

                Indeed, what impudence - in your opinion, to somehow react to the fact that practically the next day after an armed mutiny, or a coup, they immediately gathered from a great mind to ban the Russian language, or a certain body from the western region immediately promised to send "trains Friendship "- you yourself will find confirmation in Google, this is already from the previous experience of" communicating "with you personally :) I hope you have not banned your search in the internet yet? hi
                These are the "criminal adventures" that turn out, and the performances were at first quite peaceful, but this did not bother you and will not bother you further, this has long been understood ... bully
  • Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 2 January 2020 15: 28
    -3
    They will not have anything, from the word in general, and not only war ...

    - maybe this is good? I wonder how many residents of the so-called. "people's republics" dream of a time machine?
    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 2 January 2020 20: 08
      +2
      Quote: Arkharov
      I wonder how many residents of the so-called. "people's republics" dream of a time machine?

      I think that the inhabitants of ALL of Ukraine dream about it ....
      ... but the housekeepers deserve their unenviable share .. to cry for their power coming to their relatives in the Russian Federation and scolding the Russian Federation upon arrival from them at home ....

  • A M Offline A M
    A M (A M) 24 December 2019 20: 33
    -10 qualifying.
    No need to lie, Kharkov residents themselves did not allow the brown Russian plague in their city, metalhead fans with a song about the Russian leader give you an example.
    1. Don36 Offline Don36
      Don36 (Don36) 25 December 2019 07: 38
      +4
      I have acquaintances in Kharkov ... They hate and kill you there in the corners, like invaders under Hitler .. You caught armored vehicles in Kharkov so that you would not be kicked out of the city and only tanks help you, at least somehow control Kharkov ... Yes, among Kharkiv people there are also stubborn Bandera, mostly from recently resettled people, but you are still a minority there and you are not an indigenous population, and the land there is not Ukrainian.
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        1. plabu Offline plabu
          plabu 25 December 2019 10: 11
          0
          Just as you take off the saucepan, you’ll realize that you don’t take a walk along the streets in Russia with a swastika, although it’s unlikely that you will realize ...
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            1. plabu Offline plabu
              plabu 25 December 2019 11: 14
              +1
              It is clear that what other people have is the brain, you ALREADY atrophied - did you give an example? He brought you a similar example and brought it to you, but you didn’t manage to figure it out - well, it happens, maybe it will work for you, but it looks like you’re unlikely - but this is purely your problem. hi
              Also found sharp here .. laughing tongue
    2. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 25 December 2019 16: 20
      +3
      It was these football fans who burned people in Odessa on May 2, 2014.
  • commbatant Offline commbatant
    commbatant (Sergei) 29 December 2019 15: 45
    +2
    UpperMost (Innocent) December 24, 2019 15:03
    They simply understand that they will continue to live in complete * opera, and that they no longer have to hope for anything good.

    They do the right thing that they understand and do not rely on us ....
    They made their choice in a referendum for Ukraine’s independence from the USSR .... at that time, the population of Ukraine was larger, there were more Russian speakers, and there were at least nationalists ... what the hell was helping the country that caused the Union to collapse ( it was clear that after the refusal of the Ukrainian SSR to participate in the All-Union referendum, the USSR would no longer be in any other form .....) ... Ukrainians supported MAIDAN 2004, not supporting Yanukovych, who won the election .. .. Ukrainians supported the Maidan in 2014 and were silent against the start of the ATO in the Donbas, Ukrainians p by the authorities of his chosen regime, they set up a blockade of the Crimea, where, in their opinion, their compatriots live, the Ukrainians also remained silent against the use of aviation APU, tactical missile weapons and phosphorus munitions against the population (Ukrainians) of Donbass, the blockade (primarily economic and transport) of Donbass, the inhabitants of Odessa calmly looked at the deaths in the House of Trade Unions, the citizens of Ukraine calmly looked at the deforestation in Transcarpathia and the illegal extraction of amber (google the method of its extraction, which is used there), residents of Ukraine ( ersonskoy region.), quietly looking at swamping the area of ​​the overlap of the Ukrainian authorities of the North Crimean channel, so why should

    what exactly the Russian Federation will stop this chaos.

    However, if you think that you can somehow help the residents of Donbass, then the LDNR military registration and enlistment offices are waiting for you, just remember to accept the citizenship of one of these republics so as not to fall under the criminal article for mercenary ...

    The Crimeans were really saved from the Maydan people (although from the current laws and security forces of the Russian Federation, I think that the Crimeans after this time are no longer very enthusiastic. But, as they say, they saw what they bought, now eat.)

    This is your personal opinion and it is not necessary to speak for all Crimeans, I personally have not heard anything like it there ....
    And with this statement you contradict yourself that you indicated above, because if Crimeans in your opinion

    no longer very thrilled

    then where did you get the idea that Kharkiv citizens would like all this, for example? Or will any other laws act for them?
  • A M Offline A M
    A M (A M) 24 December 2019 20: 30
    -9
    Very soon, another howl will rise in the Russian information spaces, because soon the first of January, and this is the birthday of the hero of Ukraine Stepan Andreevich Bandera, take more air into the lungs, the Russians.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 24 December 2019 20: 55
      +6
      Believe me ... no one will remember Bandera in Russia. Especially on New Year's Eve.
      1. A M Offline A M
        A M (A M) 24 December 2019 21: 02
        -9
        Well, well, I bet you that one of the first news in the evening news on Russian channels will be this news. I mean, of course, January 1.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 24 December 2019 21: 07
          +4
          You are a naive person. Who needs that news? On a holiday. fool
          1. A M Offline A M
            A M (A M) 24 December 2019 21: 09
            -7
            Wait a short time.))))))
          2. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
            S.V.YU 25 December 2019 21: 58
            +3
            Well, for RAGUL, SOPLE’s birthday (prison nickname) is even more important than the New Year! HOWEVER!
        2. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
          S.V.YU 25 December 2019 21: 56
          +1
          You are NOT worth the time spent arguing with you!
    2. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 25 December 2019 10: 16
      +6
      Quote: AM M
      Very soon, another howl will rise in the Russian information spaces, because soon the first of January, and this is the birthday of the hero of Ukraine Stepan Andreevich Bandera, take more air into the lungs, the Russians.

      How hard it is for you and your colleagues to understand that the box has not been watched for a long time and oh, how many - that's what sport to watch, well, that's okay, but they won't say exactly about your "hero". bully
    3. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
      S.V.YU 25 December 2019 21: 54
      +2
      Yes, to the majority of Russians, and Ukrainians as well, do not give a damn about your dead idol! Especially for the NEW YEAR!
    4. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 1 January 2020 21: 36
      +1
      And to whom is it so interesting?
  • Don36 Offline Don36
    Don36 (Don36) 24 December 2019 23: 18
    +5
    Nothing lasts forever, and the United States in its current form does not last forever, and their sanctions, too ... Ukraine gathered under NATO under Yushchenko, so that regaining Crimea, Russia has not lost anything ... As for the rest, Russia needs to regain the territories of Russia temporarily occupied by Bandera and Basmachi, but we don’t need a stranger, let them there as they want, at least back to Poland, in the borders where they got stuck.
    1. A M Offline A M
      A M (A M) 25 December 2019 09: 47
      -10 qualifying.
      There is nothing eternal, here you are right, the USSR collapsed, Russia disintegrates, and there will be several people's republics in its place.
      1. plabu Offline plabu
        plabu 25 December 2019 10: 19
        +2
        First you have to spend money on the purchase of fuel hi
      2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 25 December 2019 11: 29
        +5
        Who will separate from whom in Russia, you can say, only with arguments, not Ukrainian Wishlist ?!
      3. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) 25 December 2019 17: 08
        +4
        And why should you rejoice, because your nenko has already partially broken up, or whether it will be yet to come.
        1. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
          S.V.YU 25 December 2019 22: 01
          -1
          There and CLIH drool, and the Magyars, and Romanians!
      4. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
        S.V.YU 25 December 2019 22: 00
        0
        There is a saying -

        While THOSE is losing weight - thin will die of hunger!

        Got it, what are you talking about?
  • Port Offline Port
    Port 25 December 2019 07: 52
    +5
    Quote: Arkharov
    Leave Ukraine alone !!!

    Leave a hotbed of Russophobia, terrorism and fascism on the Russian border? You are either an enemy or ...
  • Port Offline Port
    Port 25 December 2019 09: 53
    +5
    Quote: AM
    the USSR collapsed, and Russia will collapse

    Typical dreams for a French freeloader who comfortably settled on his neighbor’s neck.
  • Port Offline Port
    Port 25 December 2019 10: 35
    +5
    Quote: AM
    ... birthday of the hero of Ukraine Stepan Andreevich Bandera, gain more air into the lungs, Russians.

    Russians violet on Bandera.
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  • Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 25 December 2019 12: 28
    +6
    You read the comments here, and you are surprised - how many here, in Russia, are sent to us Galitsa, under the guise of Gaster, but with a huge fig, or even a Finn in his pocket ... It is time to stop these "brotherly" migrations to Russia radically by our special services, until a big trouble happens, otherwise it will hide, like St. Petersburg Andrey Bovt (Lobadyuk), and even with a cache of new assault rifles and machine guns with a huge amount of ammunition, and how many of the same thugs that have not yet been identified are now on our territory. We do not need such Trojan horses here, and it is high time to track them on the Internet, and to the Kolyma.
  • Port Offline Port
    Port 25 December 2019 16: 35
    0
    Quote: Valentine
    ... football fans and burned people in Odessa

    I did not know that Goncharenko’s white slime was also a football fan.
    1. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 25 December 2019 17: 25
      +3
      Quote: Port
      I didn’t know that Goncharenko’s white slime was also a football fan.

      Yes, Goncharenko was just a local bastard, eating up at the "Party of Regions" at Yanukovych, then wherever the wind blows. The tragedy of Odessa Khatyn was planned in advance, several thousand Galician Natsiks, and fans of Kharkov "Metallist" and Odessa "Chernomorets" were brought there. And not 48 people died there, as they said in Kiev, but more than 200 people, whose bodies were then taken at night in KAMAZ trucks to an unknown direction.
  • filippino lippi Offline filippino lippi
    filippino lippi (filippino lippi) 25 December 2019 20: 49
    -1
    I agree WITH ALL THAT SAID! Doesn't the General Staff of the Army understand THIS? Doesn't the Kremlin understand THIS? If they understand, then you need to "SOLVE THIS QUESTION"! Not FIVE CANCER, but really SOLVE THIS QUESTION! Why "hang noodles" on the ears of the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA, that "WE CAN DO anything"? Why lie? Why are you forcing the people of RUSSIA to live in poverty? Why do you force the people to "TOUCH"? WHAT FOR? Why are there new types of weapons, although there are enough EXISTING ones to DESTROY EVERYTHING LIVING on the PLANET? ENOUGH TO MAMMER! NOBODY WANTS TO DIE! We are not on the USA, not NATO! Why back off! If THEY don't stop PRESSING, DESTROY EVERYONE, even if they manage to destroy RUSSIA! I think, nevertheless, the whole thing is in the SHOWY PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA! THE COUNTRY needs a RESIDENTIAL, BOLD, STRONG SPIRIT like Ramzan Kadyrov!
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