The Netherlands asked Russia for help in investigating Ukraine's guilt over MH17

An investigation into the tragedy of flight MH17, which was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur in 2014 and crashed in the sky over the Donetsk region, came close to the question: “Why didn’t Ukraine close the airspace over the combat zone for passenger aircraft?”

As follows from a note to the national parliament compiled by Dutch Foreign Minister Peter Brock, Amsterdam turned to Moscow with a request for cooperation for more information on this episode.

In the text of the document, the head of the foreign ministry promised that he would provide the legislature with separate information “relating to progress on this issue”.

In addition, the letter expressed disappointment that the Russian authorities did not begin to detain Vladimir Tsemakh, whom the Dutch prosecutor considers suspected in this matter.

Recall that the Ukrainian special services using psychotropic substances stole Volodymyr Tsemakh from the territory of the DPR and, by applying pressure, tried to get him to acknowledge his involvement in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing.

On December 18, it became known that Vladimir Tsemakh, who, as a result of the exchange of prisoners, found himself on the territory of Russia, filed a complaint with the European Court of Human Rights against the actions of Ukrainian special services.

Meanwhile, the Russian envoy to the EU, Vladimir Chizhov, announced Russia's readiness to provide all the data it has about Ukraine’s non-closure of airspace over the territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
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  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 23 December 2019 16: 02
    As far as can be understood, the question is not who shot down, but why the airspace was not closed. In general, in the current international practice, national aviation regulators restrict air traffic, based on their own assessments of the risks of flying over a certain zone, based on the information they have - this is how the Ukrainian aviation regulator UkSATSE acted, periodically raising the minimum permissible altitude for civil aviation over the ATO zone based on information about the presence of anti-aircraft weapons in the ATO zone and their technical capabilities. Nobody expected the presence of a Buk there, so the permissible height was insufficient. Yes, it was better to play it safe, Ukraine could be blamed for this indirectly. In general, the situation is reminiscent of the story from Fyodor Dostoevsky's novel Crime and Punishment. As you know, the former student Rodion Raskolnikov, the hero of the novel, killed the old money-lender Alena Ivanovna with an ax, which he took in the janitor's closet, outside the door. So, rather, the fault of Ukraine is, figuratively speaking, the fault of the janitor who did not lock his closet on time.
    1. molotkov60mkpu Offline molotkov60mkpu
      molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 23 December 2019 18: 01
      The fault of Ukraine is that she deliberately committed the murder with her hatchet, taken from her closet, which she opened with her key.
    2. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
      S.V.YU 23 December 2019 19: 18
      Any hint of Russia?
    3. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 23 December 2019 22: 16
      The Ukrainian Air Force at that time attacked militias. In such cases, the airspace in the combat aircraft operating area is completely closed, which the Ukrainian authorities did not ...
    4. g1washntwn Offline g1washntwn
      g1washntwn (George Washington) 24 December 2019 07: 59
      Quote: Arkharov
      periodically raising the minimum permissible altitude of civil aviation flights over the ATO zone, based on information about the presence of anti-aircraft weapons in the ATO zone and their technical capabilities.

      Rave. You apparently lit the IKAO requirements, instead of reading. According to publicly available information, the downed board was deliberately driven into high-altitude corridors, into which, even through peaceful life, no one in their right mind would descend. And judging by the reports that the control room at that time was not occupied by the controllers at all, the latter, at best, watched everything from the side, and in the worst they were already traveling with bags on their heads in an unknown direction.
    5. Gadlei Offline Gadlei
      Gadlei 24 December 2019 17: 27
      After reading your prose, it is believed that the UkSATSE aviation regulator is so white and fluffy (like a 3-year-old child who knows nothing, sees nothing, hears nothing), how the Ukrainian military aviation has been flying there, and since the beginning of the operation there are Ukrainian beeches. And Fyodor Dostoevsky “Crime and Punishment” do not drag into this situation - the book has a different meaning.
    6. mister-red Offline mister-red
      mister-red 24 December 2019 23: 01
      Uncle, are you really?
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  3. Ukrainians, by order of a CIA resident, wanted to flunk Putin’s plane, but a mistake came out. Now Uncle Sam otmazyvaet them!
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 24 December 2019 09: 05
    And, it has already been sucked up more than once. And on more targeted sites.
    TASS and RIA still have news about a plane shot down by militias (I stumbled about 3 months ago).

    ... that the Russian authorities did not begin to detain Vladimir Zemakh, whom the Dutch prosecutor’s office considers suspected in this matter.

    - that is, they didn’t let anyone in to him, nefig.