Gas deal with Ukraine called defeat for Russia

Recently we toldas in Kiev they announced "relieve" regarding the agreements reached with Moscow on further gas transit to Europe, and the head of PJSC Gazprom Alexey Miller confirmed the rumors that Naftogaz Ukrainy would pay $ 2,9 billion by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. And so, a Russian political scientist, journalist, media consultant and political expert Alexander Asafov called the deal with Ukraine the defeat of Russia with "obviously strong positions."

It should be noted that after studying the available materials, Asafov was dissatisfied with the terms of the transit agreement. After which he posted his opinion on his own page on Facebook.

Gas deal with Ukraine called defeat for Russia

Asafov is sure that Moscow had significantly stronger positions than Kiev, but in the end Russia turned out to be the loser. At the same time, even if Ukraine agrees to repay a “$ 3 billion” Yanukovych loan (debt in Eurobonds) to Moscow, this deal will be neither zero nor profitable for Russia.

In his view, the threat of failure to fulfill obligations to Europe on gas supplies "seems not a very serious reason for such a failure." After which he suggested that it was possible to blame the "boyars" who did not take into account the risks.

Asafov was indignant that Russia, in fact, agreed to subsidize the economy Ukraine over the next five years. He believes that it is impossible to help the economy of a hostile country that is waging war against Russia “at the level of official documents”.
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  1. Oleg Kalugin Offline Oleg Kalugin
    Oleg Kalugin (Oleg Kalugin) 22 December 2019 10: 58
    Asafov is a media PR, and therefore a woodpecker who glues the brain to people for his own significance and profit ... And yes, he is not a political expert, but hell spit ... Miller and his Co., of course, are not ice, not ice at all, they are obviously fat on the topic, but he is definitely not worthy of such primitive criticism.
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 22 December 2019 11: 08
    I agree. Russia met Ukraine's two-week ultimatum. If it were not for this impudent ultimatum, it would have been possible to think of something to justify. But here only those who have been hit on the joint can talk about Russia's success!
  3. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 22 December 2019 11: 08
    Well, what is there to argue ... one thing is clear: "effective managers" have done it again! And since this is the "support" of the ruling regime, it turns out that once again o ....... the ruling regime ...
    1. Victor N Offline Victor N
      Victor N (Victor n) 22 December 2019 13: 27
      Managers are your fellow citizens. Replace.
      1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
        sgrabik (Sergei) 23 December 2019 15: 18
        While they will accept senior positions in Gazprom not according to their mental and intellectual capabilities, but through patronage and family ties, nothing will change for the better !!!
    2. YUG64 Offline YUG64
      YUG64 (Yuri) 22 December 2019 16: 37
      In order to understand whether they "did it" or "did not do it", it is necessary to understand who and what tasks set themselves, and who solved them. And for understanding the brain is needed. Since 2021, Ukraine has nothing from transit, but at the same time the transit itself remains. Only the weak-minded can present this as a defeat for Gazprom.
      1. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 23 December 2019 04: 41
        Well, well ... we know such "frames" (like you ...). There is such a "cohort of wise men" who are always ready to "explain to us sensibly why we live ..."! And they also read an article about the "real" victory of Gazprom and the "imaginary" victory of Naftogaz! Well, well ... "daydreaming" is characteristic of journalism ... There is such an expression:

        Home calculations often do not agree with market prices ...

        The opinion of the author of the article - "home calculations" ... historical reality - "prices in the bazaar ..."!
        1. YUG64 Offline YUG64
          YUG64 (Yuri) 23 December 2019 09: 20
          Shots like you are much more fun. Fact on the side, give emotions !! Fans of high-profile breaks usually do not bother to understand the details in which the main thing lies. Listen and read specialists, not journalists - whom I never turn to, by the way.
  4. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 22 December 2019 11: 24
    Russia has lately nothing but defeats and surrender to anyone, nothing. The regime is decreasing ... Everyone who is not lazy spits almost daily in Russia, and its authorities only wipe themselves out and are afraid to answer with anything at all ... The authorities are aimed only at stuffing their pockets in anticipation of changes. Many of its representatives think not about the country's reputation, but about how not to spoil their personal image in the countries of their future residence, and the main opponents of Russia. These are traitors, in fact.
    1. Victor N Offline Victor N
      Victor N (Victor n) 22 December 2019 13: 34
      In difficult moments of history in Russia, it was customary to come to the aid of the authorities, which is why our state has survived. Now, it seems, for many, Russia is a foreign country. Having closed in the cellar, unproven (!) Blaming anyone is VERY UGLY! Maybe criminal.
      1. vvnab Offline vvnab
        vvnab (Vitali) 22 December 2019 23: 22
        Yeah, especially in the 1917th a lot of people came running ...
      2. kriten Offline kriten
        kriten (Vladimir) 25 December 2019 14: 25
        It is criminal to consider the people as an expendable material for winding up billions of their associates and to indulge the conclusion of the one grabbed by the cordon.
  5. Vasil K. Offline Vasil K.
    Vasil K. (Vasil K.) 22 December 2019 11: 32
    I am happy that in Ukraine this is considered a victory. It is with such defeats (Borodino, Kursk Bulge) that we are proud of the history of the unique country of Russia. Wherever you are, Slav or Ethiopian - Homeland is a desired child, and equal to all others.
  6. Port Offline Port
    Port 22 December 2019 12: 18
    The main problem of Russia is that in all key positions in the economy and power there are corrupt compradors who live on the ruin and robbery of the country, ready to betray Russia and the people for their selfish interests, and of course, the height of idiocy is to keep Svidomo freeloaders who dream destroy your homeland with the help of NATO, and killing the Russian population of Donbass.
  7. Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 22 December 2019 12: 32
    In the film "Dog in the Manger" Dzhigarkhanyan sang a wonderful song -

    It’s all so architecture,
    I’ll cure you of an illness
    Trust me as a doctor,
    My potion will help you.
    Look at the girls from the right point,
    Pour from a honey barrel,
    Only add tar to honey,
    I’ll ask you to dig into my method.
    If you’re too greedy for women,
    Look for flaws in charms
    Everything will become much simpler at once,
    The girl is slim, we say - power.
    We’ll call a smart girl an ugly
    We’ll declare a good one crazy,
    Affectionate, so Velcro,
    Keeps himself strictly, means a bug.
    Let's call flirty - a whore,
    Let's say about the fun - under the fly,
    Chubby - soon bursting with fat,
    We generously cross in the spender.
    - Well, and thrifty?
    - We’ll baptize in a sklag.
    - If small?
    - Height with nevermind.
    - If tall?
    - Then he hired.
    In a day, you look,
    In a day, you look,
    In a day, you look,
    Love has cooled.

    This method can be used for any events taking place in Russia, both cheer patriots and frank trolls ...
  8. Victor N Offline Victor N
    Victor N (Victor n) 22 December 2019 13: 24
    Gazprom's interest in increasing gas sales to Europe has not been hurt. There are those in Ukraine who are outraged by the continuation of the transit of "aggressor gas". It's not over yet, the result can be better and worse.
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  10. Mihail55 Offline Mihail55
    Mihail55 (Michael) 22 December 2019 16: 01
    In Ukraine there is no war ... the authorities are supporters of our common history ... the loving language of Pushkin and Dostoevsky ... is that so ??? Or are all the tools good? A weak referendum on such issues? Or have we become cattle?
  11. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 22 December 2019 19: 02
    Quote: Victor N
    Locked in the cellar, unproven (!) Blame anyone

    Yes, we are rotting in our "cellar", in the Russian one, while our fat oligarchs are now found with their families in the warm regions of the Mediterranean, and they have thrown 42 billion of our hard-earned euros into the construction of all gas pipelines, and now that these construction sites down the drain? And where were the GAZPROM and MFA analysts, why were not all risks and all future losses calculated? We lived that we were kneeling before the West, and now we are humiliating ourselves in front of Ukraine, if only the loot would flow into their pockets ... And how now will you order to respect our country, which is not even able to give a decent and tough rebuff your opponents. Oh, how ashamed of everything that is happening to us now, and exactly the same shame and shame for our country was when it was "ruled" by Tsar Boris the drunk.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 22 December 2019 20: 15
      Valentine, I am very glad that you finally understood - they spit on us from all sides. It makes you bitter and upset. But why you repeat nonsense after them is not entirely clear. Well, this, of course, is the business of your conscience spat upon by the enemy. Apparently, their spitting reached your eyes too. Finally, wipe your spat on your face and remember what our fathers and grandfathers did when the enemies came to us to establish their world order.

      I already wrote this to you, but you have a liberal memory, you only remember what you need and quickly forget that it is not in your favor.
      1. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) 23 December 2019 11: 50
        No, Sergei, my memory has been preserved since Soviet times, when we were brought up to live according to Honor, Conscience, and Dignity, which in our time were the measure of everything, and I only remember that we must not forget, and this is meanness and betrayal of ours " leaders, starting in 1985, when Gorbachev and his last Yeltsin came to power, and, apparently, the current government followed in their footsteps, so I'm more of a Soviet citizen, like most of the inhabitants of our country, but not a liberal.
  12. Of course, I wouldn’t give the loot until the lawsuits are withdrawn, for the faith is ukram - no! But - it's not for me to decide!
  13. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 23 December 2019 01: 37
    Quote: steel maker
    I agree. Russia met in a two-week ultimatum of Ukraine

    Why be surprised? The EU (and through it - the US) holds the Kremlin for a "faberge" - a gas pipe. So they prescribe what to do, and not that - kirdyk pipe.
    And here we got a double "divorce" - they agreed to the ultimatum, but the pipe doesn't care
    US kirdyk made. At least temporary.
    But there are simply no other options for the actions of the sub-sanctioning country - the resource supplier.
    In the end, both gas and oil can be bought from many. But for the Russian Federation, the sale of such is critical.
    After all, it is only for jingoistic patriots that you can poison the stories, as Europe freezes without Russian gas. (In the meantime, Ukraine will die of hunger, and the United States will cover the awakened Yellowstone. And the dollar will "grunt". And then the Russian Federation will become the unlimited ruler of the world.)