Korotchenko put all the dots over the “i” in the Tsimbalyuk and Putin dispute over tanks

December 20 2019 17

The words of the Ukrainian journalist Roman Tsymbalyuk that in the Russian army are the same modernized tanks as in the Ukrainian, commented on a military expert, editor of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko.

During a conversation with the journalist of the publication "Sight" The expert said that the main tank of the Russian army is the T-90S, which has nothing to do with the legacy of the USSR and is produced by Uralvagonzavod.

He admitted that the Russian Armed Forces are still armed with Soviet T-72 tanks, which underwent a deep modernization, which makes it stronger than any Ukrainian tank:

We take care of the Soviet technology. But the T-72B3 due to its upgrade is an order of magnitude superior to any Ukrainian new tank that they tried to develop. And the T-90 is ahead of the rest of Ukrainian armored vehicles.

The expert also recalled that Russia is the owner of a new generation T-14 Armata tank, similar to which no other country in the world that produces its own tanks has.

Assessing the statement by the journalist and the state of Ukrainian tank construction, Igor Korotchenko said:

Tsymbalyuk is a good propagandist, but he got into a puddle. Ukraine in bast shoes wanders on the global arms market. They profiled everything, and now they are trying to puff out their cheeks. It looks pathetic, funny and shameful.

And it’s hard to argue with that, looking at how Kiev was disgraced with deliveries of armored personnel carriers to Iraq and tanks to Thailand.

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sgrabik

+5

20 December 2019 17: 24

But what kind of ukrov there are new tanks, utter nonsense, old rusty Soviet scrap metal, the Kharkov plant stands and produces practically nothing new, they modernize 10 tanks a year, and this modernization is just one name.
1. Bitter
  
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  20 December 2019 22: 42
  
  utter nonsense, old rusty Soviet scrap metal
  
  In no case do I sympathize with some processes in Ukraine, but I do not observe a big difference in the national economy of Ukraine with Russia.
  The success of the Russian Mashprom, and not only, is primarily due to the resources from the "pipe" and other non-renewable minerals and raw materials that flow in rivers to such unloved partners.
  For future generations, in response to critical questions, it will also be possible to tell tales about super-president Putin, the short-sighted Lenin and the evil Stalin.
  1. Nick
    
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    21 December 2019 04: 22
    
    Quote: Bitter
    The success of the Russian Mashprom, and not only, is primarily due to the resources from the "pipe" and other non-renewable minerals and raw materials that flow in rivers to such unloved partners.
    
    Yes you are a storyteller. The share of oil and gas revenues in the structure of the consolidated budget of Russia according to the data for the 1st half of 2019 is approximately 20%. Even if we consider only the federal budget, then there, the share of oil and gas in the 1st half of 2018 is significantly less than half the budget, only 41%.
    1. Bitter
      
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      22 December 2019 19: 20
      
      The storyteller then is not me, but Rosstat.
      "Trumpet" - it was somewhat figuratively said, -
      
      other non-renewable fossils and raw materials
      
      after all, wood, and various metals, and minerals, raw materials and semi-finished products, and there is much more.
2. Barmaley_2
  
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  21 December 2019 01: 37
  
  sgrabik (Sergey), and how many and when were the new Abrams or Challengers 2 produced?
steelmaker

-2

20 December 2019 17: 59

And why does NO ONE remember Putin’s words about the loss of Ukraine’s sovereignty in case of something? Even Putin himself did not remind about his words! Probably forgot already?
1. S.V.YU
  
  0
  
  21 December 2019 19: 06
  
  So another topic was, however!
2. A.Lex
  
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  22 December 2019 09: 51
  
  Steelworker, why do endlessly repeat the same thing? And so it is clear ...
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Barmaley_2

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21 December 2019 01: 34

All this would be so if the T-14 would not have been yet as an experimental party in a very limited number and having in fact a whole series of huge problems with a completely incomprehensible future prospect in the future. Like the T-72B3, which has a very dubious and controversial modernization, which already does not make it any better than the Ukrainian modernized T-64BV. And these are not my words, but the Russian military expert Alexei Khlopotov. And the same T-90 and A, and not C modifications, as Igor Korotchenko said, are in the arsenal of the RF Armed Forces in total from 300 to 400. Moreover, the latest modifications are their units in general. And in terms of its capabilities, the T-90 has not so far gone from the T-80BV, which are, for example, in the Armed Forces. So nothing super-duper terrible for the Armed Forces in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation from MBT is not worth it. By and large, the same stuff, except for the presence of a small number of the total mass of truly modern machines.
Alekcandr Sokolenko

-1

21 December 2019 11: 09

But the fact that the modern tank has no ties with the USSR? - is it not too cool for the editor of a popular publication? - if any kid understands that: until several generations born in the USSR die out, this connection will be more than obvious and I even think that the groundwork in human material is such that afterwards the connection will be visible if Moscow pygmies don’t finish Russia, already finished, just not everyone sees it.
DPN

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21 December 2019 15: 58

Do not say GOP until you have jumped over the DOM, for Ukraine: Europe and the USA, and until they bend Russia to the fullest. The geopolitical position is an excellent exit to the sea and oceans, and in 5 years Ukraine will do something, people there are no more dumb than Russians.
1. S.V.YU
  
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  21 December 2019 19: 09
  
  Do not wishful thinking!
Yuri Mikhailovsky

-1

21 December 2019 17: 16

Did you give the pen points?
Vkd dvk

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22 December 2019 10: 20

Quote: Bitter
utter nonsense, old rusty Soviet scrap metal

In no case do I sympathize with some processes in Ukraine, but I do not observe a big difference in the national economy of Ukraine with Russia.
The success of the Russian Mashprom, and not only, is primarily due to the resources from the "pipe" and other non-renewable minerals and raw materials that flow in rivers to such unloved partners.
For future generations, in response to critical questions, it will also be possible to tell tales about super-president Putin, the short-sighted Lenin and the evil Stalin.

Still would.
To the subject who ONLY SOME processes of Ukraine does not like, of course, it is not clear that the REASON is not ESTIMATED, but the RESULT. And the results for ukrov and ours are very different. Available treasures ukrov squandered, plundered and sold not in the goodness of the country, but in the interests of several oligarchs. We also have things for which we are ashamed. But fixable.
1. Bitter
  
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  22 December 2019 19: 42
  
  We also have things for which we are ashamed.
  
  This is probably for the real development of relations of cooperation and friendship between Ukraine and Russia over the past 20 years.
  
  ... the treasures of ukrov were squandered, plundered and sold not in the good of the country, but in the interests of several oligarchs.
  
  In Russia, there are simply more oligarchs, but from their shoulder the fur coat is more and falls.
  Naturally, there are many times more treasures in Russia, but most of them are sold not in the interests of the "blessings of the country", since private farms work in their own pockets, the people are paid in an envelope and the rest is taxed on "blessings for the country."
Vkd dvk

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22 December 2019 10: 43

Quote: DPN
Do not say GOP until you have jumped over the DOM, for Ukraine: Europe and the USA, and until they bend Russia to the fullest. The geopolitical position is an excellent exit to the sea and oceans, and in 5 years Ukraine will do something, people there are no more dumb than Russians.

Ahead of ukrov- big deal. Swing your hand, wipe your shoulder! SALE OF LAND. RESTUTION OF PROPERTY 700000 Poles have documents for their plots, factories, workshops, houses and shops. Why, one wonders, are they so actively "helping" to enter the EU? Of course, at home, "at home", you can include EU laws. Until Ukrainians are in the EU, this is not available.
Ask the Balts, they will tell you how you can evict from your home, drive them out of the farm .... And, ironically, this will work as much as possible, just in relation to the Western regions. Since 1939, more owners and their heirs have survived (the year of accession) than since 1918, throughout the rest of Ukraine (Civil War). And this is fair.
Vkd dvk

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23 December 2019 12: 56

Quote: Bitter
We also have things for which we are ashamed.

This is probably for the real development of relations of cooperation and friendship between Ukraine and Russia over the past 20 years.

... the treasures of ukrov were squandered, plundered and sold not in the good of the country, but in the interests of several oligarchs.

In Russia, there are simply more oligarchs, but from their shoulder the fur coat is more and falls.
Naturally, there are many times more treasures in Russia, but most of them are sold not in the interests of the "blessings of the country", since private farms work in their own pockets, the people are paid in an envelope and the rest is taxed on "blessings for the country."

In Russia, they simply cut off ALL the opportunities for oligarchs to do their own thing without looking at state interests. Some are left. But, most importantly, they were deprived of the opportunity to be called that - an oligarch.
If you had no chaff in your head, you would know the meaning of this word. For premature babies - the oligarch is a very rich person, at the same time doing business and possessing the power of an official and state affairs. The last Russian oligarch died in London from self-hanging. I wonder if you can name at least one last name in Ukraine?