Reorganization “under Putin”: how the Constitution of Russia will be rewritten


The year 2024 is approaching inexorably, and with it the problem of the so-called “transit of power”. As a matter of fact, the process of changing the highest authority in the country is prescribed in the Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal legislation. The problem is made by the desire of our "elites" to maintain power in the hands of one person, who is the guarantor of their well-being. To what can these throwings bring Russia?


Our Constitution refers to the language of lawyers as “soft,” that is, it can be changed quite freely. This has been done more than once. As soon as he took office as "locum tenens" in 2008, Dmitry Medvedev advanced the presidential term in advance from 4 to 6 years for his "senior comrade", who replaced him. In 2013, Vladimir Putin for some reason merged the Supreme Arbitration and Supreme Courts. A year later, the president received the right to personally appoint every tenth senator.

The constitution is changing relatively simply, for this power it is enough to have a qualified majority in the State Duma and the Federation Council. The theme of the urgent need for its next adjustments was raised a year ago. Valery Zorkin, chairman of the Constitutional Court, spoke of “point changes” to address the “shortcomings” of the Basic Law. President Putin called the Constitution “a living, developing organism,” and Prime Minister Medvedev talked about “updating the authorities” through amendments to the Constitution.

In general, judging by the POF polls, the population is prepared to rewrite the Basic Law, despite the fact that most of it has never even been read. What can those who read the Constitution and know the price of wording and commas in the right places can crank it up?

Among the options for "transit of power", which implies the preservation of Vladimir Putin at the helm of government, are the following.

Council of State


“Under Putin,” his powers can be radically expanded by taking them away from the president, whose figure will then become nominal. The scenario is quite working, but it carries the risk of actual diarchy in a country experiencing serious socialeconomic Problems. Foreign enemies can easily play this by betting on a counterweight to the “helmsman”.

Super government


This is a variation on the theme of “castling”, successfully tested in 2008. Under him, Putin is once again the prime minister, and the “locum tenens” holds the presidency for him. But here the problem arises that the president has the right to dissolve the government at any moment. To stop such an opportunity “under Putin”, the proposal of the State Duma speaker Volodin can make the cabinet more dependent on the Parliament. That is, for its dissolution, the head of state will need the consent of the legislature, where the positions of the "party in power" will be strong. But this scenario is not optimal, since there will be no one else to “translate arrows” for problems in the economy.

Union State


It is assumed that in 2024, Putin can go "to increase." However, this option is the least realistic of all, since it rests against open rejection from Minsk, which does not want the economic absorption of Belarus from the side of the “Putin Team”.

Any law can be rewritten today, but the main problem of the "elite" is the actual lack of alternative to the figure of Putin. More precisely, it was made as such artificially, due to the consistent cleaning of the media space from any promising politicians... Meanwhile, Vladimir Vladimirovich is a person of retirement age, and he is not eternal. Moreover, according to the deputy Viktor Alksnis, "sedition" has reached the highest circles:

It may not even reach transit. Already today, according to my information, representatives of the elite are discussing in private conversations that it is time to hand over Putin. It's time to try to blame all the failures on him, and conclude an agreement with the West in exchange for lifting the sanctions.


By betting on one player, the power system seriously risks its stability. Pull it out, and everything can sprinkle sharply. One hundred years ago, the then "elites" overthrew the king, hoping to rule the country themselves, but failed. Then it turned out that "there is such a party" that was able to assemble a crumbling backward state and turn it into a superpower. Today, there is simply no “such party”.
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  1. yuriy55 Offline yuriy55
    yuriy55 (Yuri Vasilievich) 14 December 2019 11: 47
    0
    For manipulations with the constitution must be hung ...
    1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
      Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 December 2019 12: 05
      +3
      Uh, Medvedev and Putin - how in the article are you waving?
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  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 14 December 2019 12: 12
    +1
    I read the title, clarified the author’s signature just in case (I’m not mistaken laughing ), I realized that I got into the science fiction section and went on.
  3. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 14 December 2019 12: 51
    +3
    I read the headline, clarified the author’s signature just in case (I wasn’t mistaken laughing) I realized that I got into the science fiction section and went on.

  4. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 December 2019 13: 14
    -6
    Good article.
  5. fevralsk.morev.75 (Sergey Morev) 14 December 2019 15: 08
    -5
    There are people in the country who are ready to take responsibility before the people. These are Platoshkin and Grudinin. But Putin and his Ozero cooperative must be changed. Tired, worse than a bitter radish. I turn off the sound on the TV when they talk about the bathyscaphe lover.
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 December 2019 16: 48
      0
      And why is Grudinin better?
      1. Oleg Kalugin Offline Oleg Kalugin
        Oleg Kalugin (Oleg Kalugin) 15 December 2019 09: 35
        0
        Just behind him are the brothers from Zion ...
    2. Anchonsha Offline Anchonsha
      Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 15 December 2019 20: 05
      0
      Platoshkin and Grudinin - your idols? Well then, Mr. Good, to Ward No. 6. Enough for me to be deceived again by Gorbachev and Yakovlev, whom he believed to the end, like a devoted communist.
  6. Port Offline Port
    Port 14 December 2019 15: 49
    +1
    Quote: fevralsk.morev.75
    There are such people in the country who are ready to take responsibility before the people. This is Platoshkin and Grudinin

    How much is strawberry for the people?
  7. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 14 December 2019 15: 53
    -1
    Quote: 123
    I read the title, clarified the author’s signature just in case (I’m not mistaken laughing ), I realized that I got into the science fiction section and went on.

    You are a spoiler.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 15 December 2019 08: 09
      +3
      The word "spoiler" has several meanings, in my opinion, in this case, it is the most appropriate.

      Spoiler (from English to spoil - “spoil”) - prematurely disclosed important plot information that destroys the intrigue conceived by the authors, does not allow it to survive on its own and, therefore, deprives the reader / viewer / player of some of the pleasure from this plot, which spoils the impression From him.

      Sorry for the vulgarity, taken from Wikipedia.
      There was no need to spoil the intrigue, it was not there. request Before opening the article, I understood the approximate content and authorship. What falls under the definition of "important story information" in it? Hazy reflections on

      the desire of our "elites" to maintain power in the hands of one person

      or fortune telling on coffee grounds, how can this be realized? Forgive me generously if anyone ruined the pleasure of self-disclosure of intrigue. hi For me, it just wasn't there. And the opinion of a former deputy who was published in circulation, whose peak was the post of mayor of the city of p. Tuchkovo of the Ruzsky district of the Moscow region, whispering about the "elites" who are deadly tired of the sanctions, so much that they are ready

      try to blame all the failures on him, and conclude an agreement with the West in exchange for lifting the sanctions.

      Who are these mysterious conspirators from the wilderness near Moscow? Union of "Sword and Plowshare". laughing

      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 December 2019 17: 30
        0
        You are a professional demagogue. This is what I meant by the word "spoiler".
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 15 December 2019 18: 11
          0
          Thank you for clarifying. hi I am glad that we have no disagreements about the assessment. good
  8. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 14 December 2019 16: 20
    +3
    The Constitution urgently needs to change clauses on the bowels and supremacy of international laws over Russian ones. And about the transfer of power, they all said in the cartoon about the Simpsons. In 2024, the USSR-2.0 will arise ...
    1. PPT Offline PPT
      PPT (PPT) 14 December 2019 23: 40
      -6
      Quote: Dzafdet
      In 2024, the USSR-2.0 will arise ...

      Do not even dream.
      The country is full of sane people to prevent this.
      1. plabu Offline plabu
        plabu 15 December 2019 00: 10
        +3
        And the same thing for you - and do not dream, with you - those who treat Americans with such reverence, many are not on the way, and let’s take a look ..
        admissions here showed up bully
      2. commbatant Offline commbatant
        commbatant (Sergei) 15 December 2019 00: 47
        -1
        Quote: PPP
        Quote: Dzafdet
        In 2024, the USSR-2.0 will arise ...

        Do not even dream.
        The country is full sane peopleto prevent this.

        Rather well fed ...
        1. PPT Offline PPT
          PPT (PPT) 15 December 2019 01: 02
          -5
          Quote: commbatant
          Rather well fed ...

          Having a relatively large number of well-fed people in the country is bad?
          And when is it good, when is bark, quinoa and cannibalism?
          1. commbatant Offline commbatant
            commbatant (Sergei) 15 December 2019 01: 23
            +5
            Quote: PPP
            Quote: commbatant
            Rather, well-fed ...

            Having a relatively large number of well-fed people in the country is bad?
            And when is it good, when is bark, quinoa and cannibalism?

            Of course, good, here you are right .... USSR 2.0, 3.0, etc. will never be, a return to the support of the "breadwinners" is impossible (for example, the Georgian SSR, probably, lived badly as a part of the Union, if it created a museum of "Soviet occupation" in the center of Tbilisi) ... so the Russian Federation, I think, somehow without "oppressed" peoples will live ... happily ...
            1. PPT Offline PPT
              PPT (PPT) 15 December 2019 01: 44
              -6
              Quote: commbatant
              for example, the Georgian SSR probably lived poorly in the Union

              Georgians know better how the GSSR lived in the USSR.
              1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                commbatant (Sergei) 15 December 2019 01: 51
                +3
                Quote: PPP
                Quote: commbatant
                for example, the Georgian SSR probably lived poorly in the Union

                Georgians know better how the GSSR lived in the USSR.

                Who argues ... however, if 800 Georgians live in Russia, then it is probably better than now ...

                1. PPT Offline PPT
                  PPT (PPT) 15 December 2019 02: 22
                  -8
                  Quote: commbatant
                  however, if 800 Georgians live in Russia, then it is probably better than now ...

                  1. Georgians do not live in Russia. Only a little at the Georgian embassy, ​​it may still be. "Soviet Georgians" live in Russia. They have about the same relationship to real Georgians as the "Soviet Russians" have to real Russians.
                  2. How can the residence of 800 thousand Soviet Georgians on the territory of the Russian Federation speak of how Georgia lived under the USSR? This is a natural "elderberry in the garden, and uncle in Kiev".
                  1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                    commbatant (Sergei) 15 December 2019 02: 31
                    +6
                    PPP (PPP) Today, 02:22 AM

                    Georgians in the Russian Federation do not live.

                    Not at all. You will not argue with UN statistics ...

                    The study, the results of which are presented in an interactive map, reflects data on migration from different UN member countries from 1990 to 2017. Cumulative indicators for each state are given for 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2017.
                    According to these data, the majority of emigrants from Georgia today live in Russia - up to 450 thousand. 80 thousand Georgians live in Greece, 70 thousand in Ukraine, 50 thousand in Azerbaijan, 40 thousand in Armenia, 30 thousand in the USA, 20 thousand in Germany and about 10 thousand in Italy.
                    Between one and ten thousand Georgians currently live in Israel, Spain, Turkey, Belarus, France, Austria, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the UK, Canada, Belgium, Estonia, Sweden, Lithuania, Portugal and the Czech Republic.

                    https://www.newsgeorgia.ge/issledovanie-840-tysyach-gruzinskih-emigrantov-prozhivayut-za-rubezhom/

                    Unless in the Georgian embassy

                    You have been rummaging for about 11 years, there is no dip between Georgia and the Russian Federation. relationship .... fellow

                    "Soviet Georgians" live in Russia

                    Yeah, and Soviet Georgians, Soviet Ukrainians, etc. also come to work in Russia laughing
                  2. Bitter Offline Bitter
                    Bitter (Gleb) 15 December 2019 15: 08
                    +2
                    about the same attitude that "Soviet Russians" have to real Russians.

                    Who are the real Russians? Soviet Russians, who is this?
                    Here, for example, Mikhail Sergeyevich, which one is he?
                    And what about Boris Nikolaevich?

                    This is a natural "elderberry in the garden, and uncle in Kiev".
          2. plabu Offline plabu
            plabu 15 December 2019 18: 51
            +1
            Quote: PPP
            Quote: commbatant
            Rather, well-fed ...

            Having a relatively large number of well-fed people in the country is bad?
            And when is it good, when is bark, quinoa and cannibalism?

            Other options - in your opinion, does not exist, only or so, or so? For some reason, in your performance, such extremes are no longer surprising. bully
        2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 December 2019 09: 20
          -6
          Want to be even more hungry? Already passed. The main disadvantage of capitalism is the unequal distribution of goods; the main advantage of socialism is the equal distribution of deprivation. Well, not counting in this case, of course, the leadership.
          1. plabu Offline plabu
            plabu 15 December 2019 18: 55
            +2
            Quote: Arkharov
            Want to be even more hungry? Already passed. The main disadvantage of capitalism - unequal distribution of benefits; the main advantage of socialism - equal distribution of deprivation. Well, not counting in this case, of course, the leadership.

            Briefly - BEFORE writing this, to study at least briefly the essence of the issue, what personally prevented you? - the main thing in your post is highlighted INCORRECTLY, students are put for such deuces and (or) sent for retake ... bully
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    2. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 15 December 2019 00: 50
      +1
      Dzafdet (Sergey) Yesterday, 16:20

      supremacy of international laws over Russian

      If you are talking about Article 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, then there is not a word about it ... fellow
      1. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
        Dzafdet (Sergei) 16 December 2019 17: 44
        0
        Have you read paragraph 15.4 carefully? Apparently that no .... laughing tongue wassat
        1. commbatant Offline commbatant
          commbatant (Sergei) 16 December 2019 19: 10
          +1
          Quote: Dzafdet
          Article 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation

          Apparently, you did not understand what you read ... fellow

          The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than stipulated by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply.

          Part 4 Art. 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation

          http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_

          Not a word about international laws, but not the essence, not all norms of international law, incl. international treaties take precedence over national ones, and the majority in general have no relation to the Russian Federation, but only those that are accepted by the Russian Federation .... read the procedure for adoption in national law

          The consent of the Russian Federation to be bound by an international treaty may be expressed by:
          signing a contract;
          exchange of documents forming the contract;
          ratification of the treaty;
          approval of the contract;
          acceptance of the contract;
          joining the contract;
          the use of any other way of expressing consent, as agreed by the contracting parties.
          Decisions on consent to be bound by international agreements for the Russian Federation are made by state authorities of the Russian Federation or authorized organizations in accordance with their competence established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this Federal Law, and other acts of legislation of the Russian Federation.

          Article 6 of the FKZ "On international treaties of the Russian Federation"

          http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_

          The issue of the sources of law and their hierarchy could be resolved by the adoption of the Federal Law "On Normative Legal Acts of the Russian Federation", which was adopted in 1996 in the first reading and has been lying around since then in the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

          http://vote.duma.gov.ru/vote/28968

          For example, a similar law has long existed in the Republic of Belarus and the Republic of Kazakhstan ...
          In our country it is harmful to have it from a political point of view, otherwise they will begin to build vertical lines of sources of law, it is harmful and even dangerous, with a mess ... and manual control ...
          As for the Constitutions of some imperialist states, which explicitly speaks of the supremacy of national law over international law and politics are subordinate to the economy, as soon as the Russian Federation is a developed state, it can be changed approximately to:

          The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. The laws of the Russian Federation apply if other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation

          In short, do not try to be smarter than older comrades, tea, not worse than you ...
          1. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
            Dzafdet (Sergei) 19 December 2019 17: 21
            +2
            Do you think that is not bad? Moreover, the Constitution was written under the dictation of the United States. Miller has signed an agreement with Ukraine, and now he is running to a Swedish court for a showdown. And it would have been written, as in the last sentence, they would have sent Ukraine to the forest.
            Why go far there, read our Civil Code at your leisure. There, some articles contradict others ...
    3. Oleg Kalugin Offline Oleg Kalugin
      Oleg Kalugin (Oleg Kalugin) 15 December 2019 09: 36
      +1
      You are so naive, right? Maybe you still tell us about Santa Claus?
  9. commbatant Offline commbatant
    commbatant (Sergei) 15 December 2019 01: 17
    +3
    Our Constitution refers to the language of lawyers as “soft,” that is, it can be changed quite freely.

    This is so, but only before the adoption of the FKZ "On the Constitutional Assembly", the draft -

    http://www.consultant.ru/cons/cgi/online.cgi?req=doc&base=PRJ&n=6748#02629009294155136

    In 2013, Vladimir Putin for some reason merged the Supreme Arbitration and Supreme Courts.

    To be more precise, in 2014, as amendments to the relevant FKZ and FZ were introduced in 2014.

    https://www.eg-online.ru/article/238215/

    To understand why, you need to read the Concept of development of the judicial system of the Russian Federation, because any Federal Law, and especially the Federal Law, is preceded by a Concept (why is it necessary) ...
    The arbitration courts of the Russian Federation left the Soviet state. arbitration and at the beginning of the development of a market economy were necessary for the Russian Federation ...
    Subsequently, after many years, a merger awaits the system of arbitration courts and courts of general jurisdiction, the question is in the competence of the judges who need to be trained, and since the GDP and the DAM consider that there are many lawyers in the country, this will be a long process. A country where private business is not developed, primarily small and medium, does not need a lot of lawyers ....
    As part of the courts of general jurisdiction, it is necessary to create administrative, family and labor courts, which will unload the district (city) and world courts, and mean increase the quality of decisions ....
    Accordingly, the lawyers should be divided into two categories (resolving disputes in the pre-trial order and in the court of first instance and lawyers who, in addition to the ones indicated, can represent interests everywhere), introduce a mandatory examination for professional suitability, every 5 years, as doctors and teachers now ...

    even though most of him never even read it

    This happens when the Constitution Day of the Russian Federation ceases to be a public holiday ....

    What can those who read the Constitution and know the price of wording and commas in the right places can crank it up?

    So you can agree to any legislative act adopted by senior comrades, but there are mechanisms to challenge it and no one has canceled them, for this, including and there is the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation .... (as well as the Constitutional and Statutory Courts in the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, where they exist) ...
  10. Boris55 Offline Boris55
    Boris55 (Boris) 15 December 2019 08: 57
    +3
    Chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation have the right only to the "Constitutional Assembly", the law on which the Duma has refused to pass four times already. All other attempts to change something consist in pulling sheep's skin over the wolf.
  11. minby Offline minby
    minby 15 December 2019 09: 00
    +2
    As much as Putin has done globally for Russia has not been done by any leader over the past 70 years.
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 December 2019 09: 23
      -3
      You just did not write, with what sign, please explain? And not in the "global" you, I see, do not really care?
    2. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 15 December 2019 15: 57
      +1
      And how many more have been "privatized" from what has been done in 70 years and simply appropriated. wink

      It is high time the honorary badge, "made in Putin" and the prize were instituted. good
  12. gore Offline gore
    gore (Alexander) 15 December 2019 10: 04
    0
    There is already a candidate for 2024 ...

    1. mivmim Offline mivmim
      mivmim 15 December 2019 12: 00
      +1
      It would be nice.
  13. Roman Soloviev (Roman Soloviev) 15 December 2019 14: 55
    -2
    Soon all of us kapets, and they are all smart. There is simply no time to squeeze the Anglo-Saxons for a long time, so you have to take risks. Who, besides Putin, will squeeze them?
  14. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 December 2019 17: 24
    -1
    Quote: Roman Soloviev
    Soon all of us kapets, and they are all smart. There is simply no time to squeeze the Anglo-Saxons for a long time, so you have to take risks. Who, besides Putin, will squeeze them?

    How do you imagine the squeeze of the Anglo-Saxons by Putin?
    1. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 15 December 2019 19: 30
      0
      I think it will squeeze.
  15. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 December 2019 17: 26
    -1
    Quote: commbatant
    So you can agree to any legislative act adopted by senior comrades, but there are mechanisms to challenge it and no one has canceled them, for this, including and there is the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation

    Challenging by whom?
    1. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 15 December 2019 19: 01
      +3
      Challenging? Yes, anyone, though not yesterday, it was BUT the changes that existed at that time mandatory joining HOA, made the most ordinary aunt who filed a lawsuit ...
      So ordinary citizens, too, can, under certain conditions, of course, but these are the details.
      Reality and opportunity are a little different. hi
    2. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 18 December 2019 23: 45
      0
      Quote: Marzhetsky
      Quote: commbatant
      So you can agree to any legislative act adopted by senior comrades, but there are mechanisms to challenge it and no one has canceled them, for this, including and there is the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation

      Challenging by whom?

      Citizens and legal entities ...
  16. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 December 2019 17: 28
    +1
    Quote: Arkharov
    The main disadvantage of capitalism is the unequal distribution of goods; the main advantage of socialism is the equal distribution of deprivation.

    Is there some kind of relationship between "deprivation" within the framework of socialism and the machinations of the capitalist system?
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 December 2019 19: 10
      -3
      I think no. All this was originally laid down in the system itself.
  17. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 15 December 2019 19: 28
    +1
    Quote: Dzafdet
    In 2024, the USSR-2.0 will arise ...

    If you restore, so the Russian empire, in which to collect all the positive experience, including conducted in the USSR.
  18. av58 Offline av58
    av58 (Andrei) 15 December 2019 19: 49
    +3
    Common anti-Russian stupidities. Last time, they also said that Putin would change the Constitution for himself, that he would stay for the third term, and when Putin left, and they elected Medvedev, they shut up modestly. It will be the same in 3.
  19. Anchonsha Offline Anchonsha
    Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 15 December 2019 19: 58
    -1
    Haha, Marzhetsky, and you are a frank provocateur. There is a people who must decide everything, and you ... a tiligent, which now, along with the dogs and sables, led by bulk, and do not give a damn about the people. You need power immediately and now, and then it will not be interesting for you; you will run away from Russia when the Russian revolt breaks out.
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 15 December 2019 21: 42
      -2
      No .... there will be no revolt and revolution. Rather, they will officially de jure recognize the existing de facto class code and introduce serfdom and you will still be happy - it’s so patriotic - working for your master for a bowl of pottage, otherwise NATO, the EU and the US will come ....

      https://publizist.ru/blogs/33/34189/-?utm_source=politobzor.net
      1. plabu Offline plabu
        plabu 15 December 2019 22: 45
        +2
        Didn’t you try to write such posts on your own behalf, and not on the type of public that you represent? bully
        Try, but in fact, what reference - so why dreg something to comment ...
    2. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 18 December 2019 23: 50
      -1
      Quote: Anchonsha
      There is a people who must decide everything, and you ... tiligent,

      Definitely ..

    3. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 18 December 2019 23: 54
      0
      Quote: Anchonsha
      There are peoplethat should solve everything and you ... tiligentwhich now together with dogs and sables led by bulk, and don't give a damn about the people. You need power right away and now, and then you will not be interested, you will run away from Russiawhen the Russian riot breaks out.

      An example of the rule of the liberals can be seen in the recent past of the 90s in the Russian Federation and the current time in Ukraine ...
  20. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 15 December 2019 21: 49
    +1
    In my opinion, the situation is rather the opposite. It is not the constitution that needs to be changed in order to ensure the re-election of Putin, but the creation of a new, more integrated Union State with a single Constitution only in order to change those articles of our constitution that are like a noose around our state’s neck. This is the independence of the Central Bank, the subsoil, the law on the Central Bank, the primacy of international law, etc.
    If we instruct our liberals to change the constitution (that of the Duma, that of the government), they will change it so that they surrender what they have not yet surrendered, and we will end up without the last pants.
    And if you accept the general Constitution, then it should suit both peoples - both us and Belarusians. And Lukashenko will track that Belarusians are not deceived. If there is a big difference in the opinions of Russians and Belarusians, they will simply check the work of the CEC. Such an event just falls within Putin's competence, and the main legislative framework for integration has already been adopted. It seems to me that Glazyev was transferred to the EAEU for this purpose. But it seems that Lukashenko is trying to get the most out of this situation, beyond common sense. And it can overwhelm the whole event that had to be held at the expense of time. Zapadensky genes affect.
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 15 December 2019 21: 56
      0
      Yeah .... Here they got the "corpse" of the "unsinkable" (remember, since the days of the "family"?) "Organizer-coordinator" and again introduced to the government .... and what surnames appear with him - "swing" :

      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4190270

      http://realtribune.ru/news/authority/3264

      And this - "just like that", yeah ..... "family" in any way, should remain in power yes
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 15 December 2019 22: 10
        -1
        Perhaps this is an indirect confirmation of my words. Impact forces are being pulled. They will oppose in every way. But he is not at all a corpse. It used to be acting out of the shadows, but now it took operational control of the government in manual mode. Medvedev seems to be recognized as unreliable (who knows, maybe the same underground as Serdyukov scolded by everyone). The situation is aggravating.
        1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 15 December 2019 22: 16
          -1
          We know that this gentleman - is one of the "gray generals" - overseeing the observance of "family" interests .... and the fact that he was dragged into the light, as you rightly noted, characterizes the preparation for something serious in terms of defending the interests of certain circles of the cooperative "Ozera" and the "family", both in terms of the continuity of power and in terms of maintaining financial flows in a certain direction ....
    2. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 19 December 2019 00: 12
      0
      It is not the constitution that needs to be changed in order to ensure the re-election of Putin, but the creation of a new, more integrated Union State with a single Constitution only in order to change those articles of our constitution that, like a noose, are on the neck of our state.

      My dear Constitution will succeed, hang 10 million people on their neck, for whose senior comrades the two World War II, were, according to them, not their wars .... for the sake of amending a dozen articles, or even less ...

      And if you accept the general Constitution, then it should arrange both nations - and us, and Belarusians. And Lukashenko will track that Belarusians are not deceived.

      As I understand it, you are Belarusian, for example, no one is important to me except the Russians, I did not swear an oath of allegiance to the Belarusians, and accordingly, it does not matter who deceives the Belarusians - the US or the EU ... and who will track that the Russians are not deceived, or Don't you give a damn about it? One can feel the enthusiasm and "care" of the "breadwinner" of the Russian people, we have survived this and will calmly do without you and your "benefactors" ...
      If a Russian, then build your Russian-Belarusian - Ukrainian, - Armenian, etc. total state without me and especially not at my expense ...

      Lukashenko is trying to get the most out of this situation, beyond common sense. And it can fill up the whole event

      Damn him too, the eastern regions of Belarus will again become part of Russia, as it was before the Bolsheviks ...
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 19 December 2019 00: 22
        +3
        1. The last 57 years I live in Kaluga.
        2.

        ... to me, for example, no one is important except the Russians ...

        and you, as a Russian, are quite happy that Russia sends hundreds of billions of dollars to the IMF every year. It is based on the treacherous articles of the Constitution and the law on the Central Bank.
        The adoption of a common normal Constitution will leave our liberde without the support of transnational corporations and will ensure the normal development of the economy only on its own resources. And now everyone is enthusiastic: oh, the investment of Western capital has increased. They are not sent for nothing. You take strangers for a while, and you give yours forever.
        And if in our state there will be more Russians, then less Tajiks will be needed.
        1. commbatant Offline commbatant
          commbatant (Sergei) 19 December 2019 00: 38
          +1
          And now everyone is enthusiastic: oh, the investment of Western capital has increased. They are not sent for nothing. You take strangers for a while, and you give yours forever.

          I am only interested in direct investment in the economy of my country ...

          А if in our state there will be more Russiansthen less Tajiks will be needed.

          To do this, it is necessary to develop the economy, and not make an attractive RF only for

          Tajiks

          And in general, in the 90s, the Russian Federation did not need to adopt a new Constitution (in the form of a single document), it was possible to cancel the old 1978 and adopt several dozen Laws equal in force to the FKZ (it would be more convenient to amend them for senior comrades), analogs Israel and Great Britain have "unwritten Constitutions" (consisting of packages of Laws), for example, and they do not live in poverty ...
          To monitor compliance with constitutional norms from encroachments primarily from older comrades, it was possible to create a Constitutional Security Service (there is such an analogue in the "decaying" FRG) ... but, as they say, history does not like subjunctives ... "Westernization "goes across the country in all sectors ...
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 19 December 2019 01: 24
            +1
            And in general, in the 90s of the Russian Federation it was not necessary to adopt a new Constitution.

            It would be interesting to remind everyone who and how then changed the Constitution. It will immediately become clear what our liberals are afraid of today. And they are trying to be proactive.
          2. boriz Offline boriz
            boriz (boriz) 19 December 2019 01: 31
            +4
            Now it’s too late to talk about what had to be done in the 90s. It is necessary to develop the economy.
            To develop it, you need to send OUR money to our economy (instead of sending it to the IMF and the Fed). And to do this is impossible without changing the Constitution. And to make a normal Constitution in the Russian Federation will not allow a liberd to flood all floors of power. It’s not Putin who controls domestic politics. But in the competence of Putin's foreign policy. And it is necessary through foreign policy to push through the normal Constitution on the territory of the Russian Federation. Having disconnected the liberd from cash flows, it is easier to take domestic politics and the economy into your own hands. Smart economists say that for several months, only on their resources, it is possible to ensure a steady GDP growth of 6 - 7%. And it will be real growth, but not drawn, as it is now.
            It seems to be just that.
  21. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 16 December 2019 14: 16
    +2
    For some reason, you called the ordinary elections a transit of power. Is this so that we better understand that we have problems with the elections? We have no problems with the elections. Do you have. The year 2024 is inexorably approaching for you, we are not worried about this.
    I am personally pleased that the desires of our elites do not coincide with your desires. As I understand it, you also do not hope for the voices of ordinary Russians. And thank God. It's good.
    I look forward to the New Year. Guys let's be friends!
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