Plans revealed: Washington and Kiev are preparing the capture of Donbass


The bill adopted by the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, which paves the way for Russia to be recognized as a sponsoring country of terrorism, is naturally perceived in our country as another Russophobic demarche aimed at further complicating the already cooler relations between Washington and Moscow. This is certainly true. However, the "creation" of American lawmakers should be considered primarily as one of the main components of a large-scale and clearly coordinated plan on both sides of the ocean for a "final solution" for the rebellious Donbass. Moreover, in that sinister sense that the executioners from the Third Reich used to put into this phrase ... What kind of plan is this and how exactly do you intend to put it into practice?


Nothing accidental, no coincidence


In order to immediately discard the slightest doubt about the legitimacy of the assumptions made above, first of all, we should compare some time parameters. So, the US Secretary of State must pass a verdict on whether the defenders of the DPR and LPR are terrorists, and Russia, respectively, their “sponsor”, responsible for everything that happens in the east of Ukraine, for 90 days. That is - three months. The next meeting in the "Norman format", based on the statements of its participants made in Paris, should be held in four months. Someone (and we all know who exactly) has a terrible hand itch a little to “correct” by that time the “Minsk agreements”. And calling a spade a spade - to rewrite them completely and completely, to their greatest advantage. And to approve these changes at the international level during the next "Norman" meeting. But Moscow does not categorically agree to such “feints”. But what if you are faced with a choice: to pass the Donbass “for good” or “for bad”? Apparently, this is exactly what is now going on.

Another point: if such a plan is successful, Donald Trump receives a huge amount of bonuses. Let us recall the main event for the United States and for him personally, the upcoming event in 2020. Well, of course, the presidential election to be held in November! Having provided Kiev with effective assistance in the seizure of Donbass and simultaneously "putting the Russians in their place," the current head of the White House will get rid of the bulk of the charges against him in one fell swoop political opponents. Some people in Washington consider Trump’s refusal of military assistance to Ukraine to be sufficient grounds even for his impeachment, and here is such a bright victory. By that time, from the “liberated” Donbass, CNN and other American television channels will just begin to actively drive the picture of “democracy”, which was restored thanks to Donald the Undaunted ... The second presidential term, one might say, in your pocket. Well, and the last moment: just after three or four months (in April-May 2020), Europe will be “covered” by the largest exercises of the North Atlantic Alliance over the past 25 years. During their conduct on the western borders of Russia will be pulled together about 60 thousand NATO fighters, a third of which will be US troops. Also a coincidence ?!

The ultimate cynicism of Kiev


It should be noted that in contrast to the "Norman" summit in Paris, where the president of the "still" was still trying to portray at least some kind of agreement, Kiev has recently spoken in a completely different language - extremely cynical and impudent. So, the representative of Ukraine in the political subgroup of the Trilateral Contact Group for the Settlement of the Situation in the Donbass, Aleksey Reznikov, has stated in a completely open text that the “Minsk Agreements” will not work until they are rewritten to please Kiev. First of all, of course, point 9 of these agreements regarding the timing and priority of transferring control of the border to Ukraine and the holding of local elections in the Donbas. They say that they are already actively working on this issue in the “non-fallow” and by the next “Norman” meeting they will certainly present their own version, which they will not refuse for anything. No less provocative is the statement by the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Vadim Pristayko, that Russia, which "remains in the same positions for all five and a half years," so far simply "does not understand the pressure exerted on it." But nothing, he will understand ... Presumably, Mr. Priestayko knows more than he says and has some reason to hope that Moscow will be “explained” to the whole profound fallacy of its behavior. It’s just that he is still explaining it bluntly, as befits a diplomat.

But who does not restrain himself is his colleague, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. This “statesman” smeared in blood (and not only of Donbass residents) by the very top, clearly and unequivocally set out a plan for “de-occupation”: “We have 408 kilometers of a border beyond Ukraine’s control. We will reduce this figure every day, and the day before the election - once, and the entire border is under our control. ” That is, in Kiev, they intend to occupy small areas of territories near the border with Russia day after day, in order to completely cut off the Donbass from it in one fell swoop. Then there will be elections ?! No, rather an extremely tough “sweep” and some kind of show for foreign observers. How long will it take to arrange a provocation or two in order to postpone the timing of the “election” to the complete “pacification” of the occupied republics? In such circumstances, not a single official representative of Russia will get there, there is no doubt for a second. The rest will write in the reports what they are told. Notice that such words on the lips of some hollow trumpet from the Verkhovna Rada would be an ordinary "patriotic" idle talk, which should be laughed at. But when they are publicly voiced by the head of the power department, who is subordinate not only to the police, but also quite impressive forces of the National Guard, as well as controlling the Nazi "volunteer battalions" and civilian structures created on their basis, seemingly ready to "stand up at any time" under the gun ”- here it’s absolutely no laughing matter. This is no longer chatter, but a specific operational plan.

Donbass and Russia have three months left?


So, what do we have, as they say, in the dry residue? Most likely, the situation will develop according to the following scenario: in a couple of months, Washington will present Moscow with a very specific ultimatum. Either the Kremlin agrees with all the “Wishlist” of Ukraine without exception and at the next “Norman” meeting draws up the donation of Donbass officially and legally, by signing the relevant documents, or the “bad option” comes into effect. The United States declares the militia of the Republic "terrorist groups" around the world, and our country - their "sponsor". And here the Minsk Agreements, the Steinmeier Formula, and everything else that already keeps Kiev from large-scale military aggression against the DPR and LPR fly to the trash. They don’t come to an agreement with the terrorists, they are being destroyed! If necessary, by the forces of some other “international coalition” with the United States at the head. In principle, such an option is not excluded, especially since it correlates very well with the “Defender of Europe 2020” in time. Well, so as not to go twice ... As for Russia, of course, no one is going to declare war on it. Although ... At one time, the list of "countries sponsoring terrorism" included Libya and Iraq. Their fate is well known. To this day, North Korea has been avoiding it solely because of its nuclear weapons. We have, of course, more atomic missiles, therefore they will not directly climb.

On the other hand, the most severe sanctions and restrictions against Russia will be introduced. Perhaps - as against the same DPRK. Endure? However, the residents of Donbass in this situation will definitely have the worst. As a matter of fact, they don’t care whether they’ll be handed over to camera flashes at the negotiating table in some Paris or Berlin, or simply thrown without help at the time of the massive attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In this case, Russia will be put, in fact, in a completely hopeless situation: either cast millions of people who faithfully believe in it (after all, within the framework of the same plan, the next point will be the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine) and after that put an end to the idea of ​​the “Russian World” as such forever ... Or engage in open armed confrontation, at least with the army and "national battalions" of Ukraine. With all the ensuing consequences. And on the western border, hanging over the same Kaliningrad, at this very moment the enemy will frolic, as they say, "in the strength of the forces." Good options, as we see, are not here. They will not be, if the situation is allowed to develop according to a script written in Washington. Kiev is not taken into account here - Zelensky and the company will do absolutely everything that they are prescribed in the US Embassy. If not, then the Americans will need a minimum of time and resources to arrange a new "Maidan" to establish an open nationalist dictatorship in the country or to return to power the same Poroshenko, who was devoted to his marrow.

What can be opposed to such a well-thought-out and ambitious plan? In fact, the answers to this question should be known in the Kremlin, the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I want to believe that they know. Much will become clear before January 1, 2020, when one way or another the intrigue with the transit of gas through Ukraine will be decided. “Let's get over” here - most likely, there will be a further surrender of positions. Russia has been “tested for strength” many times, and it has not always been ready for this test. As will be this time - time will tell.
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  1. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 13 December 2019 08: 52
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    In the event of such a course of events, Russia may well include the Vietnamese scenario, where Kiev will become South Vietnam, and Donetsk - North. Only the States will not be able to pour defoliant from aircraft. They will be immediately shot down by the suddenly appearing Air Force, or Northern Air Defense. Trump wants before the election to get a second Vietnam with a set of coffins under the American flag? Unlikely. Plus, in Ukraine, the prepared underground will begin work. If this happens, then Wang was right - In Europe for a long time it will become deserted ...
    1. Vyacheslav Kolesov (Vyacheslav Kolesov) 3 January 2020 18: 20
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      Nothing like this will happen ... the territory of Ukraine has always been and remains to one degree or another a zone of economic interests of Russia, any presence of Americans there will undoubtedly be monitored, especially in the military sphere ... the US hopes to unleash a local war in this territory are 0, since a preventive nuclear strike could easily be inflicted on all NATO decision centers and their bases, not only in Europe ..
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 December 2019 09: 19
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    In that year, tryndels “about to be offensive” all year, breaker, and now they will start again?
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 13 December 2019 13: 04
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      And where did the main “weekly promise of offensives” Basurin go?
      1. akarfoxhound Offline
        akarfoxhound 14 December 2019 09: 08
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        This does not deny the existence of "weekly" militant offensive plans for outlandering territories. But only plans are plans, and the brown adrenaline in trousers that interferes with fleeing the attack is another. She has such a memory ... instead of remembering the heroic cauldrons, she compels herself with a sense of “righteous revenge, swearing mockals”, involuntarily, and that is typical - unexpectedly, just before the attack, some pelvic muscles of organisms weary from the Maidan relax. Banderzyanki plan, intelligence spits, Basurin reads, laundering trousers from courage, drying, plan, spit, read ... what doesn’t suit you in the Sumerian “perpetum mobile” ???laughing
        1. Tatyana Offline
          Tatyana 14 December 2019 13: 12
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          The United States is sitting overseas and has successfully unleashed more than one war on other continents!
          The USA is counting on success in the war this time too! Moreover, they do this, as always, very competently, so that the United States, as always, aside on the question of its guilt.

          I completely agree with the author! War really looms on your nose!

          Moreover, Russia has only two options:
          1. Or as Brzezinski said


          And then, as Churchill said: "If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame "
          2. Or Russia will be forced to competently enter the war with all the bordering countries, not only in Europe, but also with Japan. And with all the ensuing consequences.
          1. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 December 2019 15: 26
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            Tatyana, at work? This morning in the training manual: urgently to start the last war in the history of mankind with the rest of the world?
          2. meandr51 Offline
            meandr51 (Andrei) 19 December 2019 12: 41
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            If you have a company of gopniks in front of you, then there is absolutely no need to beat everyone and everyone. It is enough to lay the leader, and everyone will scatter along the gateways.
    2. molotkov60mkpu Offline
      molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 13 December 2019 14: 50
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      It’s enough for our decision makers to threaten with a finger to surrender our positions. About declaring war and talking is unnecessary. One disgrace with WADA is worth it. Or are we just taking time to strengthen ourselves? Well, if we strengthen, as we are building the Vostochny Cosmodrome, then yes.
    3. Ivan Semenov Offline
      Ivan Semenov (Ivan Semenov) 13 December 2019 17: 45
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      Serge. And in 2011, and the 12th "tryndeli" that Ukraine is preparing a mess against Russia. Mass polls conducted. I did not believe: "Some sort of insignificant bunch of Natsiks, but local idiots. Do not tell!" Now, somehow, no laughing matter. Moreover, the ears of the State Department stick out insolently, without hiding. A corrupt youth in Ukraine and before it was enough, and now even more so.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 December 2019 11: 55
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        Ivan 12th year separately, 18th separately.
        And:

        The ears of the State Department were somehow not immediately found. Before them were the European Commissioners.

        - centurions and foremen, who then, supposedly, on Lamborghini to this Europe and drove off ...
        And in front of them are the treacherous henchmen of the oligarchs, driving people to the Independence Square with buses, hryvnias, and free cereal with lard ...
        And in front of them - what no one is talking about - Russian banks of Russian oligarchs sponsoring various suspicious parties and organizations ...
        Do not remember already? Where did all this go?

        Where did they go from Armenia?

        the ears of the State Department, huge crowds of agents, a biolaboratory, Georgian snipers, centurions from the Maidan and the treacherous US ambassador - master-maidan

        - It was worth the new authorities of Armenia to take our credit and buy our weapons ...
  3. Afinogen Offline
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 13 December 2019 09: 30
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    Before the election, Trump needs silence, because war is a lottery (it may not go according to the script), all the more, everyone knows what fighters are Okraintsev, fans who fall into the "cauldrons" and quickly retreat, throwing all their weapons and equipment. Trump did not even notice a slap in the face from Iran (when they shot down their UAVs). So there will be silence before the election, but we'll see.
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 13 December 2019 14: 13
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      With a general thought, in principle, I agree.
      I’ll clarify only that the Ukrainians are just excellent soldiers, but only under the right command. They proved this in the Russian army, then in the Soviet and even their current Natsiks, extolling the SS Galicia division, forget to remember that this unit was really combat-ready only at a time when absolutely all its command personnel, including the sergeant, consisted EXCLUSIVELY from the Germans. And under the leadership of local commanders, they never defeated anyone and won no battles, only scattered in the woods and attacked stealthily ... and even slept everything they could ...
  4. Pishenkov Offline
    Pishenkov (Alexey) 13 December 2019 11: 33
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    Something this time, in my opinion, the respected author drew a too gloomy picture. Not very likely, I would say ...
    For comparison, let's recall the situation in Syria around 2014-15 - Russia is far away, although it has interest there, it is ambiguous, under the control of “breathing” government forces crumbs of territory, the army is in alignment, the USA and the whole West are already there were present with their "coalition", Assad was declared an illegitimate murderer of their own people and almost already debited from their accounts, internal players with their own "armies" were not even 2 or 3, but about a dozen ... and almost all of them in one way or another who supported from outside - West, Arab monarchies, Turkey and even Israel ... And far from all of them were recognized terrorist organizations ... And where is Syria now? Where is Assad? And where is the western "coalition" in the SAR? ...
    And let's compare the interest of the Russian Federation in Syria, with all due respect, and in Ukraine ... In addition, the leadership of the Russian Federation has already shown its determination to take harsh military actions there, and both Kiev and the West have warned of the possibility of further ones in case of escalation .. If the Americans do not dare to do so in the SAR, does anyone really think that they will decide in Ukraine ??? ... They simply risk the already open war against Russia ...
    All of this is unrealistic.
  5. neri73-r Offline
    neri73-r 13 December 2019 12: 37
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    There will be one scenario - the Western Federal District with its center in the Russian city of Kiev. Just the way and time can be different, and the end is one ZFD.
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 13 December 2019 12: 53
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      I AM FOR! Only the Banderlogy of Galicia must still be given to the Poles - the sense of them is all the same zero, and so let them each other shake each other ...
    2. Ivan Semenov Offline
      Ivan Semenov (Ivan Semenov) 13 December 2019 17: 59
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      With your lips and drink honey. Only Kiev and, especially, Western women are poisoned by propaganda, which is unlikely to help.
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        General Black (Gennady) 13 December 2019 23: 40
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        They will help the Polish whip.
      2. meandr51 Offline
        meandr51 (Andrei) 19 December 2019 12: 44
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        In Crimea, they were also "heavily poisoned by propaganda." But for some reason, in a couple of days, they sharply changed their opinion about Russia and 80% of the local personnel of the Armed Forces transferred to its army ...
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    kriten (Vladimir) 13 December 2019 14: 09
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    Do not scare! 60000? I immediately recall the exclamation of a Russian soldier before the Battle of Kulikovo, when he saw an army of Tatars: where are we going to bury them all? Puffed up, there aren’t enough diapers ...
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      molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 13 December 2019 14: 46
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      Why bury, burn, firewood will only have to chop a lot.
    2. chobasa Offline
      chobasa (Choi Bal San) 14 December 2019 11: 04
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      Quote: kriten
      I immediately recall the exclamation of a Russian soldier before the Battle of Kulikovo, when he saw an army of Tatars: where are we going to bury them all?

      Just in case:
      Tartars, then Muscovites, then Great Russians. Those. those who are called Russian in Runet are the descendants of tartar.
      "Russian warrior", this is actually rusich. Rusich were then called Little Russians, and then even now Ukrainians.
      Tartar-Mogul (Great Tartria, so called this state with its capital in Moscow, in Greek Mogul-Tartaria) invasion, this is the seizure of Russia (the capital of Russia was always in Kiev) tartars. Then the yoke happened (church term).
      Igo because Russia was then Orthodox, and Tartaria was Muslim. Then, after the refusal of Islam by Moscow Tartary, the Muslim population in the Republic of Ingushetia was called the Tatars. Tatar in those days, this is not a nationality, this is belonging to Islam. There were many Tatars in those days, but later they began to be called by their own names. Volga Tatars (modern) are actually Bulgars.
      Learn the story.
      1. Bulanov Offline
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 16 December 2019 10: 00
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        A history teacher - modern Ukrainians are, rather, not Little Russians, but the remnants of Polovtsy. Little Russia is part of the very first Russia (along with Novgorod, Rostov the Great and Tver) and real Rus would not call themselves Ukrainians, and Polovtsy and Cherkasy who lived on the outskirts of Russia could well call themselves that.
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        kriten (Vladimir) 22 December 2019 11: 33
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        Yes, yes, and the Ukrainians dug up the Black Sea. A story was written specifically for pan-leg-killers: those deprived of their brains will be swallowed.
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    nznz (Igor) 13 December 2019 14: 22
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    The author completely excluded from the attention the interests of Europe, which does not need a war on its side, and even on such a scale. Hungary and Poland do not need it, because with the natural disintegration of Ukraine, they will get the territory without a single shot, and if the war happens and Russia fits in, the winner will hardly give something to the scavengers.
    1. Tatyana Offline
      Tatyana 14 December 2019 12: 58
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      Quote: nznz
      The author completely excluded from the attention the interests of Europe, which war is at hand, and on such a scale, by no means needed. Hungary and Poland do not need it, because with the natural disintegration of Ukraine, they will get the territory without a single shot, and if the war happens and Russia fits in, the winner will hardly give something to the scavengers.

      The fact of the matter is that the US State Department and the Pentagon will not ask either Poland, Hungary or other countries about Washington’s unbinding TMV with Russia !!!
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        chobasa (Choi Bal San) 14 December 2019 13: 15
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        Quote: Tatiana
        I completely agree with the author! War really looms on your nose!

        What kind of people are these? Why are they so dreaming of war? Why are they calling her?
        They simply do not know that war is not at all what they show in "Soviet films."

        Quote: Tatiana
        And then, as Churchill said

        Churchill was known for his stupid talker. For this, his British in 1945 threw off the chair. But later it turned out that the rest, even greater degradants.

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        "If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame"

        This phrase, this is crazy nonsense. See the experience of France in the years of WW2. She refused to fight Germany. But one of the 4 main winners in Europe has become. With absolutely scanty losses. See the experience of Poland in those years.
        Poland regularly fought in WW2 to the last. She even, unlike France, did not capitulate to the Germans. But proudly having lost a large number of the population, it was not included among the main winners in Europe. And even more than that, it was thrown by the "allies" to be torn to pieces by the Bolsheviks.

        Quote: Tatiana
        Or Russia will be forced to competently go to war with the whole world.

        You somehow poorly imagine the real possibilities of Russia.

        By the way, why didn’t you write about the most realistic version of the development of events, as it is now seen? About the repetition of that “feint” (in a new way, in a variation), which Dzhugashvili did at one time?
        Do not know about him?
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          Tatyana 14 December 2019 13: 21
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          Quote: chobasa
          By the way, why didn’t you write about the most realistic version of the development of events, as it is now seen? About the repetition of that “feint” (in a new way, in a variation), which Dzhugashvili did at one time? Do not know about him?

          Write what do you mean?
          Do Washington and Moscow agree to peacefully divide Ukraine between the US and Russia?
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            chobasa (Choi Bal San) 14 December 2019 13: 42
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            Quote: Tatiana
            Agree to peacefully divide Ukraine between the US and Russia?

            Reach an agreement? You clearly do not understand the real place of Russia in the modern world. Although, however, you are not alone in this. No one will agree on anything with Russia. Not that Russia’s caliber. A trifle is (for the USA) pot-bellied.
            Even with China and the EU, the US speaks the language of ultimatums. But they will not begin to talk with Russia in general about what they are not interested in (and Ukraine does not interest them at all). But now Russia needs the USA. Therefore, the United States and drive her into a dead end. Pushing for "making the right decision." And the point here is not at all about LDNR or Crimea, which the Americans are up to the stars.
            The fact is that the United States has a problem similar to the one that it had in Europe in 1941. Only in Asia.
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            2. 321 Offline
              321 (321) 14 December 2019 14: 45
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              Quote: chobasa
              ... A SERVICE similar to the one that Dzhugashvili rendered to them during WW2, having lost 20% of the pre-war population of the USSR (42 million people)

              Another "expert" showed up.
              Can you justify? Where did the 42 million loss come from?
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              meandr51 (Andrei) 19 December 2019 12: 51
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              These "masters of the world" can only chat. They even scared the DPRK to shiver. In Syria and Venezuela, they liquidated themselves liquidly. They are being pushed out of Iraq. And we don’t give a damn about their Wishlist and scarecrows. We have ours.
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            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 December 2019 15: 35
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            Tatyana, are you between the decision of the fate of peoples, countries and continents, have you forgotten to cook dinner? Distract a little, the USA and Ukraine will not get anywhere from you, free yourself and start with a new force.
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    molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 13 December 2019 14: 25
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    Russia many times "was not tested for strength

    - They didn’t check Russia, but the greed of the oligarchs. When making decisions, the main criterion was - not to lose the headstock (to trembling hands).
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    RFR (RFR) 13 December 2019 14: 25
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    This opus is difficult to evaluate, the author, as it were, to put it mildly, is an amateur. laughing
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    molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 13 December 2019 14: 40
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    On the other hand, the most severe sanctions and restrictions against Russia will be introduced. Perhaps - as against the same DPRK. Endure?

    - What does it mean “we can stand it?” We can stand it without Italian-French delicacies? Without overseas resorts? If the absence of these excesses leads to unrest, that is where we are. Everything has already been forgotten, what is a shovel and a summer residence. What are we missing? There are territories, resources, any, land, equipment, people with big-headed and arms, a well-armed army, any energy resources. And we are all afraid. Yes, the same Ukrainians, exchanged territories with us, your obstinacy and impudence, figuratively speaking, would have bent half the world. A coward dies twice (if not all the time).
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      chobasa (Choi Bal San) 14 December 2019 11: 06
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      Quote: molotkov60mkpu
      There are territories, any resources, land, equipment, people with big heads and arms, a well-armed army, any energy resources.

      Dreamer. Where to get the medicine? Food? Fly on what? To ride? And much more.
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) 14 December 2019 14: 51
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        It’s even better to be a dreamer than a panic-maker and an all-rounder — like you, but you and your own fantasies are quite enough. hi
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      meandr51 (Andrei) 19 December 2019 12: 53
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      I am for sanctions. The more "cruel" they are, the stronger Russia. While we dry, they will die.
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    Valentine (Valentin) 13 December 2019 17: 34
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    The time now comes to the point that our president just needs to repeat his 2007 Munich speech, but only more justified and harsher, from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly, and to warn our "partners" - do not twitch, guys, do YOURSELF, do not meddle with your provocations to us, do not create problems for us with your own shoals that you create all over the world, and bring them down on us, do not incite your “sixes” on us - Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgia, etc. - this can end very tragically for you and no seas and the oceans will not save you from our retaliation .... If Ukraine fights first on LDNR, and a huge number of Russian citizens already live there, then Sergey Kozhugetovich knows what to do with the bandera, and he’s a man with iron Faberge, and you won’t refuse him, and our General Staff has long been told how to start everything and how to finish, and the Yankees will not climb into this welded brew, they are more expensive for themselves.
    1. meandr51 Offline
      meandr51 (Andrei) 19 December 2019 12: 56
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      Conversations and speeches are no longer taken into account. Only military capabilities. But propaganda is needed. It is necessary to bring the western man to hysteria. To not get out of the basement. He will get tired of it quickly.
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    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 13 December 2019 17: 47
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    It is time to stop meaningless negotiations with Bandera and begin to seriously prepare for war, since it is inevitable.
  13. Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 13 December 2019 18: 41
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    Not a capture, but a massacre in the Donbass. Otherwise, Ukraine does not recognize.
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    Nick (Nikolai) 13 December 2019 18: 42
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    Trump will not go on an adventure in Ukraine before the election. The author is mistaken. To rattle with weapons on the eve of the election, yes, but no more. And what does linking the author with gas transit through Ukraine mean? Let’s go for a drive? GDP is constantly talking about the transit of gas through the "non-gas". He links this issue only with acceptable transit conditions. There will be suitable conditions agreed with the Ukrainian side, and there will be transit. The category "bend or not" does not roll here.
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    Observer2014 13 December 2019 19: 03
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    Plans revealed: Washington and Kiev are preparing the capture of Donbass

    tongue Nothing like this can happen now! Donbass is now the citizens of Russia! All. The only thing that can be annoying is the shelling of the territory of LDNR. But in a strange way, the info about this lawlessness completely disappeared from the info channels.
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    steelmaker 13 December 2019 21: 28
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    I agree with the author. If a gas agreement is signed in January, then Putin in Paris has surrendered and will quietly surrender the Donbass. Zelensky lied to Lavrov, and to Putin, albeit belatedly, but also answered his poem in a rude way. There is no answer, albeit belatedly, to this rudeness. The gas agreement cannot be signed! Better to pay billions, but then economically strangle Ukraine. We will return a hundredfold.
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      Observer2014 13 December 2019 21: 49
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      I agree with the author. If a gas agreement is signed in January, then Putin in Paris has surrendered and will quietly surrender the Donbass. Zelensky lied to Lavrov, and to Putin, albeit belatedly, but also answered his poem in a rude way. There is no answer, albeit belatedly, to this rudeness. The gas agreement cannot be signed! Better to pay billions, but then economically strangle Ukraine. We will return a hundredfold.

      Need to be complete fool To put forward claims to Putin about the surrender of the Donbass now. Russian citizenship to people from the east bu. Ukraine Confirmation of this. Other claims to Putin. And the questions remained. yes
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      Dzafdet (Sergei) 14 December 2019 16: 29
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      Comrade, gas transit plants are supplied from European countries until DECEMBER 13. Until there is none. GAS TRANSIT WILL NOT BE ...
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      meandr51 (Andrei) 19 December 2019 13: 00
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      I don’t see the connection between gas and the war in Donbass. These are different things. On the contrary, gas must be supplied to Europe. This is the carrot in their hands. But from time to time to show them a whip. If necessary, click in front of the nose. You can stretch someone along the back.
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    kartalovkolya 14 December 2019 09: 30
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    It's time to openly declare (that the whole world already knows): the United States is the main terrorist in the world, and what can be expected from a terrorist country that blew up "twin buildings" in New York and killed millions of innocent people around the world ?! And stop smearing the snot on the cheeks, and it's time to shorten the internal enemies of the liberals ...
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      chobasa (Choi Bal San) 14 December 2019 11: 10
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      Quote: kartalovkolya
      It's time to openly announce

      You can declare anything. But who cares? The dog barks, the caravan goes on. In addition, the drover can hear. And he will lower the skin from the dog. What should she do then?

      Quote: kartalovkolya
      that the whole world already knows

      And in this case, you are not surprised by the behavior of this world?
      Okay, you want to kill yourself. Your business. But why drag others along?
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        Vasya Pinocchio (Vasya Pinocchio) 14 December 2019 12: 08
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        You have nowhere to put patches on your knees.
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        meandr51 (Andrei) 19 December 2019 13: 03
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        Firstly, they still won’t let us live. Until Russia is destroyed, and the population is not reduced by a factor of 10. Therefore, one cannot lose initiative in the confrontation using all methods. We have nothing to lose. But they have something. It is just a game of nerves. We have a moral advantage.
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    Dzafdet (Sergei) 14 December 2019 16: 28
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    Putin clearly said: in the event of armed aggression, the Russian army will instantly punish the aggressor. And the cries of Kiev Bandera will be heard for many more years ..
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    Alexander Ra (Alexander) 14 December 2019 19: 17
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    The author's judgments are logical. None of our leaders has declared the Bialowieza conspiracy criminal - this is defeatism, which encourages "partners". The Russian Federation did not designate a strategy for Slavic new states endowed with Anglo-Saxons in the 90s. But Russia does not need to look back on any international law in the territories of Ukraine and the Republic of Belarus, if the United States begins intervention in these territories, the deployment of their troops is correctly understood, and NATO’s teachings are unacceptable there. There should be clear explanations of this from the Russian Federation; clarifications would be better not entrusted to diplomats, but to the military. The USA cannot act as a guarantor of peace in these territories and regard the deployment of NATO troops or the deployment of bases as declaring war on Russia. Once upon a time, the flags of NATO expansion should be designated.
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      kriwo.alek (Alex) 14 December 2019 22: 42
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      You are right, Sasha RA. Enough to dance to the Anglo-Saxon tune. After all, it has long been clear to everyone that the so-called "international" (read American) law has long and irrevocably exhausted itself.
      And how long will we obey him?
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    kriwo.alek (Alex) 14 December 2019 22: 36
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    I have long said, from the moment of the military junta in Ukraine, that only the physical destruction of the fascist regime can solve the problem not only of New Russia, but of the whole Ukraine, as well as Transnistria. In the 15th, the moment was missed, the next (and it is brewing), it is impossible to miss. What about the war? So do not flatter yourself. She will be anyway. Too many weapons on the earth have divorced and anyway some kind of "jeltman" will use it. So it’s better to have one preemptive strike than to live all your life under the impending threat of this strike from the enemy. If you really beat, then beat - FIRST.
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      filippino lippi (filippino lippi) 15 December 2019 01: 24
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      I think that RUSSIA has no other option but to strike at the USA first! Yes, RUSSIA must hit first! Will our President be able to make such a decision? There is little hope for this, it is painfully LOVING! This one will, like Stalin, wait, "TILL THE LAST"! Remember what it turned out for the USSR in 1941! On the very first day of the war, the USSR lost THREE of its entire aviation! And this "LOVER OF LOVE will lose RUSSIA in the very first hours of the WAR! It is necessary for the PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA to choose a strong, decisive, fair, intelligent, not dirty with anything, loving the PEOPLE not in words but in the CASE OF THE LEADER, such as Kadyrov! Putin, of course, GOOD but he “ALREADY TIRED”, like the drunk Yeltsin “TIRED” before him! Putin will not dare to IMPACT the ENEMY! He ALREADY 20 years “RULES” RUSSIA! Tired, physically and mentally! Monomakh’s hat is heavy!
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        Alexander Ra (Alexander) 15 December 2019 06: 31
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        Quote: filippino lippi
        LEADER, such as Kadyrov

        - Kadyrov’s phenomenon took place in the existing conditions in which the external component for Chechnya is important. For the Russian leader, the external component is fundamentally different. We need a leader capable of national creativity.
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 December 2019 09: 46
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        On the very first day of the war, the USSR lost THREE of its entire aviation!

        - in order not to lose a third of aviation on the first day of the war, it was necessary to prepare for it accordingly. And believe your intelligence, not "friends."
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      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 December 2019 09: 42
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      kriwo.alek - it’s because of people like you and others like you that treat us all over the world. Do you think all these pearls are read only in the Russian Federation?
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    Warrior 17 December 2019 10: 32
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    The United States does not matter what the occasion for the war with Russia will be, because only it stands on the US path to world hegemony and has significant natural resources, especially energy, for the development of the United States and the whole world.
    Maybe it will be a conflict in Ukraine.
    Therefore, this will be the last US war on planet Earth.
    Russia will simply destroy the United States, which was high time for Russia to do so.
    Glory to the Great Russia!
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      nznz (Igor) 25 December 2019 01: 08
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      Well then ... well, there will be no war with the United States. They are not politicians, they are rattling, they are rattling, their own shadows will be scared - and the military are silent and they know, God forbid, contact the Russian Federation. These are not 2 towers to fill up, not Iran to ride, it’s to slurp such that the Russians sipped to their fill. Their army can’t fight without a comfortable toilet, and then the people will be in conditions that they are not used to. Private Amer. I won’t be able to open canned food without a special machine ... and you are talking about the war .. they live in cartoons .. And we don’t need to fight, we need to arrange something for them on the border, like Chechnya - sober up.
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    Pleh (PLeh) 2 January 2020 15: 05
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    People, do not you think that the warning that in the case of aggression against Russia, a retaliatory strike will also be dealt to decision centers does not sober up business. Unfortunately, in the West there are many of them, including among puppeteers. But I think that it’s a blow to the centers that will be very effective and will stop idiots, preventing further bloodshed. Therefore, all sorts of zircons, calibers, etc., are put into service in Russia.