Plans revealed: Washington and Kiev are preparing the capture of Donbass

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The bill adopted by the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, which paves the way for Russia to be recognized as a sponsoring country of terrorism, is naturally perceived in our country as another Russophobic demarche aimed at further complicating the already cooler relations between Washington and Moscow. This is certainly true. However, the "creation" of American lawmakers should be considered primarily as one of the main components of a large-scale and clearly coordinated plan on both sides of the ocean for a "final solution" for the rebellious Donbass. Moreover, in that sinister sense that the executioners from the Third Reich used to put into this phrase ... What kind of plan is this and how exactly do you intend to put it into practice?

Nothing accidental, no coincidence


In order to immediately discard the slightest doubt about the legitimacy of the assumptions made above, first of all, we should compare some time parameters. So, the US Secretary of State must pass a verdict on whether the defenders of the DPR and LPR are terrorists, and Russia, respectively, their “sponsor”, responsible for everything that happens in the east of Ukraine, for 90 days. That is - three months. The next meeting in the "Norman format", based on the statements of its participants made in Paris, should be held in four months. Someone (and we all know who exactly) has a terrible hand itch a little to “correct” by that time the “Minsk agreements”. And calling a spade a spade - to rewrite them completely and completely, to their greatest advantage. And to approve these changes at the international level during the next "Norman" meeting. But Moscow does not categorically agree to such “feints”. But what if you are faced with a choice: to pass the Donbass “for good” or “for bad”? Apparently, this is exactly what is now going on.



Another point: if such a plan is successful, Donald Trump receives a huge amount of bonuses. Let us recall the main event for the United States and for him personally, the upcoming event in 2020. Well, of course, the presidential election to be held in November! Having provided Kiev with effective assistance in the seizure of Donbass and simultaneously "putting the Russians in their place," the current head of the White House will get rid of the bulk of the charges against him in one fell swoop political opponents. Some people in Washington consider Trump’s refusal of military assistance to Ukraine to be sufficient grounds even for his impeachment, and here is such a bright victory. By that time, from the “liberated” Donbass, CNN and other American television channels will just begin to actively drive the picture of “democracy”, which was restored thanks to Donald the Undaunted ... The second presidential term, one might say, in your pocket. Well, and the last moment: just after three or four months (in April-May 2020), Europe will be “covered” by the largest exercises of the North Atlantic Alliance over the past 25 years. During their conduct on the western borders of Russia will be pulled together about 60 thousand NATO fighters, a third of which will be US troops. Also a coincidence ?!

The ultimate cynicism of Kiev


It should be noted that in contrast to the "Norman" summit in Paris, where the president of the "still" was still trying to portray at least some kind of agreement, Kiev has recently spoken in a completely different language - extremely cynical and impudent. So, the representative of Ukraine in the political subgroup of the Trilateral Contact Group for the Settlement of the Situation in the Donbass, Aleksey Reznikov, has stated in a completely open text that the “Minsk Agreements” will not work until they are rewritten to please Kiev. First of all, of course, point 9 of these agreements regarding the timing and priority of transferring control of the border to Ukraine and the holding of local elections in the Donbas. They say that they are already actively working on this issue in the “non-fallow” and by the next “Norman” meeting they will certainly present their own version, which they will not refuse for anything. No less provocative is the statement by the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Vadim Pristayko, that Russia, which "remains in the same positions for all five and a half years," so far simply "does not understand the pressure exerted on it." But nothing, he will understand ... Presumably, Mr. Priestayko knows more than he says and has some reason to hope that Moscow will be “explained” to the whole profound fallacy of its behavior. It’s just that he is still explaining it bluntly, as befits a diplomat.

But who does not restrain himself is his colleague, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. This “statesman” smeared in blood (and not only of Donbass residents) by the very top, clearly and unequivocally set out a plan for “de-occupation”: “We have 408 kilometers of a border beyond Ukraine’s control. We will reduce this figure every day, and the day before the election - once, and the entire border is under our control. ” That is, in Kiev, they intend to occupy small areas of territories near the border with Russia day after day, in order to completely cut off the Donbass from it in one fell swoop. Then there will be elections ?! No, rather an extremely tough “sweep” and some kind of show for foreign observers. How long will it take to arrange a provocation or two in order to postpone the timing of the “election” to the complete “pacification” of the occupied republics? In such circumstances, not a single official representative of Russia will get there, there is no doubt for a second. The rest will write in the reports what they are told. Notice that such words on the lips of some hollow trumpet from the Verkhovna Rada would be an ordinary "patriotic" idle talk, which should be laughed at. But when they are publicly voiced by the head of the power department, who is subordinate not only to the police, but also quite impressive forces of the National Guard, as well as controlling the Nazi "volunteer battalions" and civilian structures created on their basis, seemingly ready to "stand up at any time" under the gun ”- here it’s absolutely no laughing matter. This is no longer chatter, but a specific operational plan.

Donbass and Russia have three months left?


So, what do we have, as they say, in the dry residue? Most likely, the situation will develop according to the following scenario: in a couple of months, Washington will present Moscow with a very specific ultimatum. Either the Kremlin agrees with all the “Wishlist” of Ukraine without exception and at the next “Norman” meeting draws up the donation of Donbass officially and legally, by signing the relevant documents, or the “bad option” comes into effect. The United States declares the militia of the Republic "terrorist groups" around the world, and our country - their "sponsor". And here the Minsk Agreements, the Steinmeier Formula, and everything else that already keeps Kiev from large-scale military aggression against the DPR and LPR fly to the trash. They don’t come to an agreement with the terrorists, they are being destroyed! If necessary, by the forces of some other “international coalition” with the United States at the head. In principle, such an option is not excluded, especially since it correlates very well with the “Defender of Europe 2020” in time. Well, so as not to go twice ... As for Russia, of course, no one is going to declare war on it. Although ... At one time, the list of "countries sponsoring terrorism" included Libya and Iraq. Their fate is well known. To this day, North Korea has been avoiding it solely because of its nuclear weapons. We have, of course, more atomic missiles, therefore they will not directly climb.

On the other hand, the most severe sanctions and restrictions against Russia will be introduced. Perhaps - as against the same DPRK. Endure? However, the residents of Donbass in this situation will definitely have the worst. As a matter of fact, they don’t care whether they’ll be handed over to camera flashes at the negotiating table in some Paris or Berlin, or simply thrown without help at the time of the massive attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In this case, Russia will be put, in fact, in a completely hopeless situation: either cast millions of people who faithfully believe in it (after all, within the framework of the same plan, the next point will be the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine) and after that put an end to the idea of ​​the “Russian World” as such forever ... Or engage in open armed confrontation, at least with the army and "national battalions" of Ukraine. With all the ensuing consequences. And on the western border, hanging over the same Kaliningrad, at this very moment the enemy will frolic, as they say, "in the strength of the forces." Good options, as we see, are not here. They will not be, if the situation is allowed to develop according to a script written in Washington. Kiev is not taken into account here - Zelensky and the company will do absolutely everything that they are prescribed in the US Embassy. If not, then the Americans will need a minimum of time and resources to arrange a new "Maidan" to establish an open nationalist dictatorship in the country or to return to power the same Poroshenko, who was devoted to his marrow.

What can be opposed to such a well-thought-out and ambitious plan? In fact, the answers to this question should be known in the Kremlin, the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I want to believe that they know. Much will become clear before January 1, 2020, when one way or another the intrigue with the transit of gas through Ukraine will be decided. “Let's get over” here - most likely, there will be a further surrender of positions. Russia has been “tested for strength” many times, and it has not always been ready for this test. As will be this time - time will tell.
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  1. +5
    13 December 2019 08: 52
    In the event of such a course of events, Russia may well include the Vietnamese scenario, where Kiev will become South Vietnam, and Donetsk - North. Only the States will not be able to pour defoliant from aircraft. They will be immediately shot down by the suddenly appearing Air Force, or Northern Air Defense. Trump wants before the election to get a second Vietnam with a set of coffins under the American flag? Unlikely. Plus, in Ukraine, the prepared underground will begin work. If this happens, then Wang was right - In Europe for a long time it will become deserted ...
    1. +1
      3 January 2020 18: 20
      Nothing like this will happen ... the territory of Ukraine has always been and remains to one degree or another a zone of economic interests of Russia, any presence of Americans there will undoubtedly be monitored, especially in the military sphere ... the US hopes to unleash a local war in this territory are 0, since a preventive nuclear strike could easily be inflicted on all NATO decision centers and their bases, not only in Europe ..
  2. -2
    13 December 2019 09: 19
    In that year, all year long tryndeli "there will be an offensive", a break, and now they will start again?
    1. -5
      13 December 2019 13: 04
      And where did Basurin, the main "weekly promise of offensives", go?
      1. 0
        14 December 2019 09: 08
        This does not deny the existence of "weekly" militant offensive plans to bander territories. But only plans are plans, and the brown adrenaline in harem pants that prevents you from running into the attack is something else. She has such a memory ... instead of remembering the heroic cauldrons, to gather with the feeling of "righteous revenge, swear to the mocks" she involuntarily forces, and that is typical - unexpectedly, just before the attack, some pelvic muscles of the organisms tired by the Maidan relax. Banderzians are planning, intelligence is tyriting, Basurin is reading, washing harem pants from courage, drying, planning, tyryat, reading ... what does not suit you in the Sumerian "perpetum mobile" ???laughing
        1. +2
          14 December 2019 13: 12
          The United States is sitting overseas and has successfully unleashed more than one war on other continents!
          The USA is counting on success in the war this time too! Moreover, they do this, as always, very competently, so that the United States, as always, aside on the question of its guilt.

          I completely agree with the author! War really looms on your nose!

          Moreover, Russia has only two options:
          1. Or as Brzezinski said


          And then, as Churchill said: "If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it gets both war and shame "
          2. Or Russia will be forced to competently enter the war with all the bordering countries, not only in Europe, but also with Japan. And with all the ensuing consequences.
          1. -5
            14 December 2019 15: 26
            Tatyana, at work? This morning in the training manual: urgently to start the last war in the history of mankind with the rest of the world?
          2. +1
            19 December 2019 12: 41
            If you have a company of gopniks in front of you, then there is absolutely no need to beat everyone and everyone. It is enough to lay the leader, and everyone will scatter along the gateways.
    2. +3
      13 December 2019 14: 50
      It’s enough for our decision makers to threaten with a finger to surrender our positions. About declaring war and talking is unnecessary. One disgrace with WADA is worth it. Or are we just taking time to strengthen ourselves? Well, if we strengthen, as we are building the Vostochny Cosmodrome, then yes.
    3. +4
      13 December 2019 17: 45
      Serge. And in 2011, and the 12th "tryndel" that Ukraine is preparing a mess against Russia. Mass polls were carried out. I didn't believe: "Some insignificant bunch of Natsiks, but local idiots. Don't tell me!" Now somehow it’s no laughing matter. Moreover, the ears of the State Department stick out insolently, without hiding. And there were enough corrupt youth in Ukraine before, and now even more so.
      1. -1
        14 December 2019 11: 55
        Ivan 12th year separately, 18th separately.
        And:

        The ears of the State Department "were somehow not immediately found. Before them were" the European Commissioners.

        - centurions and foremen, who then, supposedly, on Lamborghini to this Europe and drove off ...
        And in front of them are the treacherous henchmen of the oligarchs, driving people to the Independence Square with buses, hryvnias, and free cereal with lard ...
        And in front of them - what no one is talking about - Russian banks of Russian oligarchs sponsoring various suspicious parties and organizations ...
        Do not remember already? Where did all this go?

        Where did they go from Armenia?

        the ears of the State Department, huge crowds of agents, a biolaboratory, Georgian snipers, centurions from the Maidan and the treacherous US ambassador - master-maidan

        - It was worth the new authorities of Armenia to take our credit and buy our weapons ...
  3. +2
    13 December 2019 09: 30
    Before the elections, Trump needs silence, because the war is a lottery (it may not go according to the script), especially since everyone knows what kind of warriors the outskirts, those who like to get into the "cauldrons" and quickly retreat, abandoning all weapons and equipment. Trump did not even notice the slap in the face from Iran (when they shot down their UAV). So there will be silence before the elections, and then we'll see.
    1. +5
      13 December 2019 14: 13
      With a general thought, in principle, I agree.
      I will only clarify - the Ukrainians are just excellent warriors, but only under the right command. They proved this in the Russian army, then in the Soviet, and even their today's Natsiks, extolling the SS Galicia division, forget to remember that this unit was really combat-ready only at a time when absolutely all of its command staff, including the sergeant, consisted EXCLUSIVELY from the Germans. And under the leadership of local commanders, they never defeated anyone and did not win any battles, they only shuffled through the forests and stealthily attacked ... and even then they slept everything they could ...
  4. +2
    13 December 2019 11: 33
    Something this time, in my opinion, the respected author drew a too gloomy picture. Not very likely, I would say ...
    Let us, for comparison, recall the situation in Syria around 2014-15 - Russia is far away, although it is interested there, but it is ambiguous, under the control of "breathing" government forces crumbs of territory, the army is in the alignment, the United States and the entire West are ALREADY there were present with their "coalition", Assad was declared an illegitimate killer of his own people and was almost written off from the accounts, internal players with their own "armies" there are not even 2 or 3, but about a dozen ... and almost all of them in one way or another who supported something from the outside - the West, the Arab monarchies, Turkey and even Israel ... And far from all of them were recognized terrorist organizations ... And where is Syria now? Where is Assad? And where is the Western "coalition" in the SAR? ...
    And let's compare the interest of the Russian Federation in Syria, with all due respect, and in Ukraine ... In addition, the leadership of the Russian Federation has already shown its determination to take harsh military actions there, and both Kiev and the West have warned of the possibility of further ones in case of escalation .. If the Americans do not dare to do so in the SAR, does anyone really think that they will decide in Ukraine ??? ... They simply risk the already open war against Russia ...
    All of this is unrealistic.
  5. +5
    13 December 2019 12: 37
    There will be one scenario - the Western Federal District with its center in the Russian city of Kiev. Just the way and time can be different, and the end is one ZFD.
    1. +3
      13 December 2019 12: 53
      I AM FOR! Only the Banderlogy of Galicia must still be given to the Poles - the sense of them is all the same zero, and so let them each other shake each other ...
    2. +3
      13 December 2019 17: 59
      With your lips and drink honey. Only Kiev and, especially, Western women are poisoned by propaganda, which is unlikely to help.
      1. -1
        13 December 2019 23: 40
        They will help the Polish whip.
      2. +2
        19 December 2019 12: 44
        In Crimea, they were also "heavily poisoned by propaganda." But for some reason, in a couple of days, they sharply changed their minds about Russia and 80% of the local personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine went over to its army ...
  6. +5
    13 December 2019 14: 09
    Do not scare! 60000? I immediately recall the exclamation of a Russian soldier before the Battle of Kulikovo, when he saw an army of Tatars: where are we going to bury them all? Puffed up, there aren’t enough diapers ...
    1. 0
      13 December 2019 14: 46
      Why bury, burn, firewood will only have to chop a lot.
    2. -1
      14 December 2019 11: 04
      Quote: kriten
      I immediately recall the exclamation of a Russian soldier before the Battle of Kulikovo, when he saw an army of Tatars: where are we going to bury them all?

      Just in case:
      Tartars, then Muscovites, then Great Russians. Those. those who are called Russian in Runet are the descendants of tartar.
      "Russian warrior" is actually a Russian. The Russians were then called Little Russians, and then now Ukrainians.
      Tartar-Mogul (Great Tartria, so called this state with its capital in Moscow, in Greek Mogul-Tartaria) invasion, this is the seizure of Russia (the capital of Russia was always in Kiev) tartars. Then the yoke happened (church term).
      Igo because Russia was then Orthodox, and Tartaria was Muslim. Then, after the refusal of Islam by Moscow Tartary, the Muslim population in the Republic of Ingushetia was called the Tatars. Tatar in those days, this is not a nationality, this is belonging to Islam. There were many Tatars in those days, but later they began to be called by their own names. Volga Tatars (modern) are actually Bulgars.
      Learn the story.
      1. +2
        16 December 2019 10: 00
        A history teacher - modern Ukrainians are, rather, not Little Russians, but the remnants of Polovtsy. Little Russia is part of the very first Russia (along with Novgorod, Rostov the Great and Tver) and real Rus would not call themselves Ukrainians, and Polovtsy and Cherkasy who lived on the outskirts of Russia could well call themselves that.
      2. +1
        22 December 2019 11: 33
        Yes, yes, and the Ukrainians dug up the Black Sea. A story was written specifically for pan-leg-killers: those deprived of their brains will be swallowed.
  7. +2
    13 December 2019 14: 22
    The author completely excluded from the attention the interests of Europe, which does not need a war on its side, and even on such a scale. Hungary and Poland do not need it, because with the natural disintegration of Ukraine, they will get the territory without a single shot, and if the war happens and Russia fits in, the winner will hardly give something to the scavengers.
    1. 0
      14 December 2019 12: 58
      Quote: nznz
      The author completely excluded from the attention the interests of Europe, which war is at hand, and on such a scale, by no means needed. Hungary and Poland do not need it, because with the natural disintegration of Ukraine, they will get the territory without a single shot, and if the war happens and Russia fits in, the winner will hardly give something to the scavengers.

      The fact of the matter is that the US State Department and the Pentagon will not ask either Poland, Hungary or other countries about Washington’s unbinding TMV with Russia !!!
      1. -4
        14 December 2019 13: 15
        Quote: Tatiana
        I completely agree with the author! War really looms on your nose!

        What kind of people are these? Why are they so dreaming of war? Why are they calling her?
        They simply do not know that the war is not at all what is shown in the "Soviet films".

        Quote: Tatiana
        And then, as Churchill said

        Churchill was known for his stupid talker. For this, his British in 1945 threw off the chair. But later it turned out that the rest, even greater degradants.

        Quote: Tatiana
        "If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame"

        This phrase, this is crazy nonsense. See the experience of France in the years of WW2. She refused to fight Germany. But one of the 4 main winners in Europe has become. With absolutely scanty losses. See the experience of Poland in those years.
        Poland regularly fought in WW2 to the last. She even, unlike France, did not capitulate to the Germans. But having proudly lost a large number of its population, it was not included among the main winners in Europe. And even more than that, it was thrown by the "allies" at the mercy of the Bolsheviks.

        Quote: Tatiana
        Or Russia will be forced to competently go to war with the whole world.

        You somehow poorly imagine the real possibilities of Russia.

        By the way, why didn't you write about the most realistic scenario of the development of events, as it is now seen? About a repetition of that "feint" (in a variation in a new way, of course), which Dzhugashvili once did?
        Do not know about him?
        1. -1
          14 December 2019 13: 21
          Quote: chobasa
          By the way, why didn't you write about the most realistic scenario of the development of events, as it is now seen? About a repetition of that "feint" (in a variation in a new way, of course), which Dzhugashvili once did? Don't know about him?

          Write what do you mean?
          Do Washington and Moscow agree to peacefully divide Ukraine between the US and Russia?
          1. -3
            14 December 2019 13: 42
            Quote: Tatiana
            Agree to peacefully divide Ukraine between the US and Russia?

            Reach an agreement? You clearly do not understand the real place of Russia in the modern world. Although, however, you are not alone in this. No one will agree on anything with Russia. Not that Russia’s caliber. A trifle is (for the USA) pot-bellied.
            Even with China and the EU, the US speaks the language of ultimatums. And they won't talk with Russia in general about what they are not interested in (and they are not interested in Ukraine at all). But now the United States needs the Russian Federation. Therefore, the United States is driving it into a dead end. Encouraging to "make the right decision." And the point here is not at all about the LDNR or the Crimea, which Americans care about.
            The fact is that the United States has a problem similar to the one that it had in Europe in 1941. Only in Asia.
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            2. 0
              14 December 2019 14: 45
              Quote: chobasa
              ... A SERVICE similar to the one that Dzhugashvili rendered to them during WW2, having lost 20% of the pre-war population of the USSR (42 million people)

              Another "expert" showed up.
              Can you justify? Where did the 42 million loss come from?
            3. +2
              19 December 2019 12: 51
              These "masters of the world" can only chat and can. Even the DPRK scared them to shivers. In Syria and Venezuela, they did it well. They are being pushed out of Iraq. And we don't give a damn about their Wishlist and Scarecrow. We have our own.
          2. -2
            14 December 2019 15: 35
            Tatyana, are you between the decision of the fate of peoples, countries and continents, have you forgotten to cook dinner? Distract a little, the USA and Ukraine will not get anywhere from you, free yourself and start with a new force.
  8. +4
    13 December 2019 14: 25
    Russia many times "was not tested for strength

    - They didn’t check Russia, but the greed of the oligarchs. When making decisions, the main criterion was - not to lose the headstock (to trembling hands).
  9. RFR
    0
    13 December 2019 14: 25
    This opus is difficult to evaluate, the author, as it were, to put it mildly, is an amateur. laughing
  10. +1
    13 December 2019 14: 40
    On the other hand, the most severe sanctions and restrictions against Russia will be introduced. Perhaps - as against the same DPRK. Endure?

    - What do you mean "we will endure?", We will endure without Italian-French delicacies? Without overseas resorts? If the absence of these excesses will lead to unrest - that's where we go. Everyone has already forgotten what a shovel and a summer residence are. What are we missing? There are territories, resources, any, land, equipment, big-headed and handy people, a well-armed army, any energy resources. And we are all afraid. Yes, the same Ukrainians, if you had exchanged territories with us, with their obstinacy and impudence, figuratively speaking, would have bent half the world. The coward dies twice (if not all the time).
    1. 0
      14 December 2019 11: 06
      Quote: molotkov60mkpu
      There are territories, any resources, land, equipment, people with big heads and arms, a well-armed army, any energy resources.

      Dreamer. Where to get the medicine? Food? Fly on what? To ride? And much more.
      1. -1
        14 December 2019 14: 51
        It’s even better to be a dreamer than a panic-maker and an all-rounder — like you, but you and your own fantasies are quite enough. hi
    2. 0
      19 December 2019 12: 53
      I am for sanctions. The more "cruel" they are, the stronger Russia is. While we dry, they will die.
  11. +1
    13 December 2019 17: 34
    The time is now approaching that our president simply needs to repeat his Munich speech in 2007, but only more substantiated and tougher, from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly, and warn our "partners" - do not twitch, guys, do YOURSELF, do not meddle with your provocations to us, do not create problems for us with your own jambs that you create all over the world, and blame them on us, do not incite your "sixes" on us - Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgia, etc. - this can end very tragically for you, and no seas and oceans will save you from our retaliation ... If Ukraine is the first to twitch on the LDNR, and a huge number of Russian citizens already live there, then Sergey Kozhugetovich knows perfectly well what to do with the bandit, and he is a man with iron "Fabergés", and you will not refuse him, and in our General Staff everything has long been planned, how to start everything, and how to finish, and the Yankees will not climb into this weld they welded - their own dear.
    1. +1
      19 December 2019 12: 56
      Conversations and speeches are no longer taken into account. Only military capabilities. But propaganda is needed. It is necessary to bring the western man to hysteria. To not get out of the basement. He will get tired of it quickly.
  12. +6
    13 December 2019 17: 47
    It is time to stop meaningless negotiations with Bandera and begin to seriously prepare for war, since it is inevitable.
  13. +1
    13 December 2019 18: 41
    Not a capture, but a massacre in the Donbass. Otherwise, Ukraine does not recognize.
  14. -2
    13 December 2019 18: 42
    Trump will not go on an adventure in Ukraine before the elections. The author is mistaken. Raise your arms on the eve of the elections, yes, but no more. And what does the author's linkage with gas transit through Ukraine mean? Will we bend not bend? GDP is constantly talking about gas transit through the "Independent". He links this issue only with acceptable transit conditions. There will be suitable conditions agreed with the Ukrainian side, and there will be transit. The category "bend or not" does not roll here.
  15. 0
    13 December 2019 19: 03
    Plans revealed: Washington and Kiev are preparing the capture of Donbass

    tongue Nothing like this can happen now! Donbass is now the citizens of Russia! All. The only thing that can be annoying is the shelling of the territory of LDNR. But in a strange way, the info about this lawlessness completely disappeared from the info channels.
  16. +1
    13 December 2019 21: 28
    I agree with the author. If a gas agreement is signed in January, then Putin in Paris has surrendered and will quietly surrender the Donbass. Zelensky lied to Lavrov, and to Putin, albeit belatedly, but also answered his poem in a rude way. There is no answer, albeit belatedly, to this rudeness. The gas agreement cannot be signed! Better to pay billions, but then economically strangle Ukraine. We will return a hundredfold.
    1. -2
      13 December 2019 21: 49
      I agree with the author. If a gas agreement is signed in January, then Putin in Paris has surrendered and will quietly surrender the Donbass. Zelensky lied to Lavrov, and to Putin, albeit belatedly, but also answered his poem in a rude way. There is no answer, albeit belatedly, to this rudeness. The gas agreement cannot be signed! Better to pay billions, but then economically strangle Ukraine. We will return a hundredfold.

      Need to be complete fool To put forward claims to Putin about the surrender of the Donbass now. Russian citizenship to people from the east bu. Ukraine Confirmation of this. Other claims to Putin. And the questions remained. Yes
    2. 0
      14 December 2019 16: 29
      Comrade, gas transit plants are supplied from European countries until DECEMBER 13. Until there is none. GAS TRANSIT WILL NOT BE ...
    3. +1
      19 December 2019 13: 00
      I don’t see the connection between gas and the war in Donbass. These are different things. On the contrary, gas must be supplied to Europe. This is the carrot in their hands. But from time to time to show them a whip. If necessary, click in front of the nose. You can stretch someone along the back.
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  18. +3
    14 December 2019 09: 30
    It's time to openly declare (which the whole world already knows): the United States is the main terrorist in the world, and what can be expected from a terrorist country that blew up "twin buildings" in New York and killed millions of innocent people around the world ?! And enough snot to smear on the cheeks, and it's time to shorten the internal enemies of the liberals ...
    1. 0
      14 December 2019 11: 10
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      It's time to openly announce

      You can declare anything. But who cares? The dog barks, the caravan goes on. In addition, the drover can hear. And he will lower the skin from the dog. What should she do then?

      Quote: kartalovkolya
      that the whole world already knows

      And in this case, you are not surprised by the behavior of this world?
      Okay, you want to kill yourself. Your business. But why drag others along?
      1. 0
        14 December 2019 12: 08
        You have nowhere to put patches on your knees.
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      2. +1
        19 December 2019 13: 03
        Firstly, they still won’t let us live. Until Russia is destroyed, and the population is not reduced by a factor of 10. Therefore, one cannot lose initiative in the confrontation using all methods. We have nothing to lose. But they have something. It is just a game of nerves. We have a moral advantage.
  19. +1
    14 December 2019 16: 28
    Putin clearly said: in the event of armed aggression, the Russian army will instantly punish the aggressor. And the cries of Kiev Bandera will be heard for many more years ..
  20. 0
    14 December 2019 19: 17
    The author's judgments are logical. None of our leaders has declared the Bialowieza conspiracy criminal - this is defeatism, which encourages "partners". The Russian Federation did not designate a strategy for Slavic new states endowed with Anglo-Saxons in the 90s. But Russia does not need to look back on any international law in the territories of Ukraine and the Republic of Belarus, if the United States begins intervention in these territories, the deployment of their troops is correctly understood, and NATO’s teachings are unacceptable there. There should be clear explanations of this from the Russian Federation; clarifications would be better not entrusted to diplomats, but to the military. The USA cannot act as a guarantor of peace in these territories and regard the deployment of NATO troops or the deployment of bases as declaring war on Russia. Once upon a time, the flags of NATO expansion should be designated.
    1. 0
      14 December 2019 22: 42
      You are right, Sasha RA. Stop dancing to the Anglo-Saxon tune. After all, it has long been clear to everyone that the so-called "international" (read American) law has long and irrevocably exhausted itself.
      And how long will we obey him?
  21. +1
    14 December 2019 22: 36
    I have been saying for a long time, since the military junta in Ukraine, that only the physical destruction of the fascist regime can solve the problem not only of Novorossia, but of the whole of Ukraine, as well as of Transnistria. In the 15th, the moment was missed, the next (and it is brewing) must not be missed. What about the war? So do not flatter yourself. She will still be. Too many weapons on the ground have spread and any "gentleman" will use them anyway. So it is better to have one preemptive strike than to live your whole life under the impending threat of this strike from the enemy. If you really beat, then beat - FIRST.
    1. -1
      15 December 2019 01: 24
      I think that RUSSIA has no other option than to strike the US first! Yes, RUSSIA must strike first! Will our President be able to make such a decision? There is little hope for this, it is painfully PEACE-LOVING! This one will, like Stalin, wait "UNTIL THE LAST"! Remember how this turned out for the USSR in 1941! On the very first day of the war, the USSR lost a THIRD of all its aviation! And this "PEACE-LOVER will lose RUSSIA in the very first hours of the WAR! You need to elect a strong, decisive, just, intelligent, not tainted by anything, loving the PEOPLE, not in words, but in DEEDLE, a LEADER like Kadyrov as the PRESIDENT of RUSSIA! Putin, of course, is GOOD , but he is "ALREADY TIRED", as the drunkard Yeltsin was "TIRED" before him! Putin will not dare to strike at the enemy! He has "RULED" RUSSIA for 20 years! Tired, physically and mentally! The Cap of Monomakh is heavy!
      1. +1
        15 December 2019 06: 31
        Quote: filippino lippi
        LEADER, such as Kadyrov

        - Kadyrov’s phenomenon took place in the existing conditions in which the external component for Chechnya is important. For the Russian leader, the external component is fundamentally different. We need a leader capable of national creativity.
      2. -2
        15 December 2019 09: 46
        On the very first day of the war, the USSR lost THREE of its entire aviation!

        - in order not to lose a third of aviation on the first day of the war, it was necessary to prepare for it accordingly. And trust your intelligence, not your "friends."
    2. -3
      15 December 2019 09: 42
      kriwo.alek - it’s because of people like you and others like you that treat us all over the world. Do you think all these pearls are read only in the Russian Federation?
  22. +2
    17 December 2019 10: 32
    The United States does not matter what the occasion for the war with Russia will be, because only it stands on the US path to world hegemony and has significant natural resources, especially energy, for the development of the United States and the whole world.
    Maybe it will be a conflict in Ukraine.
    Therefore, this will be the last US war on planet Earth.
    Russia will simply destroy the United States, which was high time for Russia to do so.
    Glory to the Great Russia!
    1. +2
      25 December 2019 01: 08
      Well then ... well, there will be no war with the United States. They are not politicians, they are rattling, they are rattling, their own shadows will be scared - and the military are silent and they know, God forbid, contact the Russian Federation. These are not 2 towers to fill up, not Iran to ride, it’s to slurp such that the Russians sipped to their fill. Their army can’t fight without a comfortable toilet, and then the people will be in conditions that they are not used to. Private Amer. I won’t be able to open canned food without a special machine ... and you are talking about the war .. they live in cartoons .. And we don’t need to fight, we need to arrange something for them on the border, like Chechnya - sober up.
  23. +2
    2 January 2020 15: 05
    People, do not you think that the warning that in the case of aggression against Russia, a retaliatory strike will also be dealt to decision centers does not sober up business. Unfortunately, in the West there are many of them, including among puppeteers. But I think that it’s a blow to the centers that will be very effective and will stop idiots, preventing further bloodshed. Therefore, all sorts of zircons, calibers, etc., are put into service in Russia.