Gazprom will have to accept all the conditions of Ukraine


Ukraine supplied Gazprom with very stringent conditions under a new transit agreement. The contract should be concluded for 10 years, “cover all expenses” of Kiev, as well as the domestic monopolist must pay off all debt by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. And he is likely to eventually do all this.


It’s high time to get our heads out of the sand and admit that Russia is not dealing with “lost coast” Ukraine at all. No, the European Commission and Washington speak on behalf of Kiev and Moscow. They are now breaking the leadership of Gazprom through their knees.

In fact, there is no “problem of Ukrainian transit” for Europe; it exists only for the Russian monopolist, who, under an agreement, is obliged to supply fuel to the Slovak border. The "gas war" a decade ago taught the EU a lot, and he headed for complete independence from supplies from our country. The German edition of DW summed up the disappointing results for Gazprom of this work, about which we told earlier. The EU has diversified its sources of gas supplies to the maximum extent possible. In addition to the Nord Stream-1 pipeline, numerous LNG terminals have been built along the coast. Large investments have been made in the development of the EU gas transmission system, which allow the transfer of energy resources as necessary. Underground gas storages were filled to capacity, which gives guarantees that Gazprom’s supplies will be dispensed with if they are shut down on January 1, 2020.

Everything, the era of dominance of a Russian company in the European gas market is coming to an end. Europeans, of course, do not intend to completely refuse its services, but their purpose will change. A number of experts express a well-founded opinion that now LNG rather than pipeline gas will play a significant role in the energy balance of Europe. There are two reasons for this.

At first, with the developed infrastructure, LNG can be even cheaper and more convenient, explains our former diplomat Nikolai Platoshkin:

Liquefied gas is supplied by tankers - it is bought as needed. Plus, LNG prices vary every day - just like oil prices. Therefore, it is more convenient for many countries to take liquefied gas. At some points, it is sold cheaper than the pipeline.


Secondly, affects the success of the "shale revolution" in the United States, where there was an overabundance of hydrocarbon fuel. Washington pressure is driving Europe’s accelerated transition to LNG.

Pipeline gas does not disappear, but is turning into a tool for Europeans to bargain with LNG suppliers. In fact, the Ukrainian GTS and Nord Stream-2 will be a guaranteed reserve for the EU, which you can always count on, but not the main one. For this, the Third Energy Package norms were invented, which allow keeping Gazprom in a constantly suspended state.

It turns out that Gazprom now needs Europe more than Europe needs it, as DW said directly. Multibillion-dollar lawsuits are designed to spur the state corporation to making the “right decision”. Europe, for its part, is extremely unequivocally demonstrating that all decisions will be in favor of Ukraine, and it will not work to avoid payments.

The loss of the European gas market as a “national treasure” will be a real disaster for our country. economicsstanding on the "two pipes", which threatens an almost imminent political crisis. Therefore, Gazprom will not go anywhere; in the end, it will accept all the conditions of Europe. The best that can be achieved at best is to reduce the contract period from 10 years to 3-5. During this time, the US will establish large-scale LNG exports to the EU.
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  1. krasstar Offline krasstar
    krasstar (Igor) 9 December 2019 14: 15
    -1
    https://greeden.livejournal.com/558446.html

    I see no reason to worry about Gazprom - there are not many Russia. Let shareholders pay their contracts, and gas deposits from these effective managers must be removed and given to the owner, the people of Russia. Like with Yukos.
    1. Oleg Zorin Offline Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin (Oleg Zorin) 9 December 2019 15: 47
      +3
      Yukos gave to the people? What a news!!!
      1. Nick Offline Nick
        Nick (Nikolai) 11 December 2019 03: 39
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Zorin
        Yukos gave to the people? What a news!!!

        Yukos was given to Rosneft, which is under state control (the state-owned stake is 50%).
    2. Victor N Offline Victor N
      Victor N (Victor n) 9 December 2019 19: 56
      0
      And what will the people do with the DEPOSITS? Gas must be KNOWLEDGE and delivered to consumers - self-extinguishing will not work: "Promgaz" create?
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 9 December 2019 14: 35
    +3
    And in a number of articles they write exactly the opposite.
    We will push everyone, America will not supply cheap gas, our Europe, etc.
    1. Upmost Offline Upmost
      Upmost (Innocent) 9 December 2019 19: 16
      -8
      Well, then the notebook propaganda patriots write like that. They are paid for it.
      But in fact, everything is so - the gas pedaling of the Russian Federation is gradually coming to an end.

      There is no arguing against reality.

      Moreover, the USA is creating such a new reality by developing new technologies and methods for gas production.

      The Russian Federation only drives gas through Soviet pipelines and builds new ones, relying on the experience, materials and equipment of various "partners". And at the same time they periodically "rinse" for the fact that she is pointed to her deserved (at least as of now) a place.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 10 December 2019 10: 30
        +9
        Well, that’s how propaganda propaganda notebooks write like that. They are paid for it.

        And who do you think pays this author? winked

        Moreover, the USA is creating such a new reality by developing new technologies and methods for gas production

        They have been creating it for more than 10 years, they are creating, but in no way will they be created. One noodle on the ears. Or did I miss something and American gas is cheaper? In the meantime, they are buying it cheaper from us, Canada and further down the list, and they are trying to suck in their shredded satellites with their dear. It’s just that China abandoned their LNG, so they are trying to discard it in Europe.

        The Russian Federation only drives gas through Soviet pipelines and builds new ones, relying on the experience, materials and equipment of various "partners". And at the same time they periodically "rinse" for the fact that she is pointed to her deserved (at least, as of the present moment) place.

        Would you be so kind as to expand on the topic in more detail. On the experience and materials of which partners, what are you talking about? Except for offshore pipelayers. They will complete the construction of underwater gas pipelines and are no longer needed, it makes no sense to build them, it is cheaper to rent them for the duration of construction. Onshore pipelines are built by themselves. And they are more cost-effective than LNG, as you yourself said, "you can't argue against reality." In addition to the gas pipeline to China, we have also completed the construction of an oil pipeline to the Pacific Ocean. The emphasis is shifting to the East. Until recently, Germany was the largest trading partner, now it is not and will continue to decrease. Well, you are not interested in such little things, apparently, you have your own deserved place.
    2. Oleg Mogilny Offline Oleg Mogilny
      Oleg Mogilny (Oleg grave) 10 December 2019 17: 48
      +5
      The article was written with the filing of DW, and they are famous liars.
    3. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
      S.V.YU 11 December 2019 09: 18
      0
      And the paper will endure everything! Wait and see!
  3. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 9 December 2019 16: 36
    +3
    Another: - How will it end, how will my heart calm down, how will everything hide ...
    Ai-ne-ne-ne ... karoch.
  4. colyanpirogov Offline colyanpirogov
    colyanpirogov (Nikolai Pirogov) 9 December 2019 16: 46
    +8
    When publications like DW start to write such articles, with the submission again of "their experts", it is worth thinking about - "is it really so !?" (very similar to banal pressure "on the psyche")! The respected author is categorically wrong when, referring to "experts", he says that -

    ... LNG, not pipeline gas, will play a significant role in Europe’s energy balance.

    ... also from overseas ... Well, sheer nonsense !!! I admit that European or Middle Eastern suppliers of LNG, well, or the same Russia, will somehow be able to approach the prices of pipeline gas, well, not like "pin ... sy"! Well, a contract with Ukraine is needed anyway (we are neighbors), only, of course, on different terms than before ... :)
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 10 December 2019 10: 42
      +4
      Dear author is categorically wrong when, referring to "experts"

      Get used to it. laughing He traditionally has a rather specific approach to the selection of experts. They are declared to be anyone who expresses a point of view that coincides with the author's. In this case, the gas expert is a former diplomat, previously a "specialist" from an electric power company, and so on. Well, and to such trifles as the cost of production and economic calculation, usually does not go down. Everything rests on faith in the omnipotent light-faced gods across the great sea.
  5. polev66 Offline polev66
    polev66 (Alexander) 9 December 2019 17: 20
    +4
    Glory Globa haunts the author?
  6. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 9 December 2019 17: 52
    +4
    What's again? recourse I didn’t even read the article. sad
  7. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
    Ravshan (Jamsut) 9 December 2019 18: 00
    -10 qualifying.
    Gazprom will have to accept all the conditions of Ukraine

    For starters, not Ukraine, but Naftagaz. The business entity.
    And then, and what, does one of the sane people once doubted this?
    Gazprom is in a very difficult situation. And Naftogaz will just take full advantage of this.
    Nothing personal, just business.
  8. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 9 December 2019 18: 16
    -11 qualifying.
    Gazprom will have to accept all the conditions of Ukraine.

    - Yes, of course I have to ...
    - Everything that I personally tried so long and vainly to convey to everyone ...- finally it began to somehow reach the site audience ... -Well .., well ... better late .. than .. .
    - I don’t want to mention about Gazprom already ... -Well, how much you can talk about it worthless ... everything has already been chewed twenty times ...
    - Of course, Gazprom cannot stand up against Zap. Europe ..; against Turkey; against China ...- Yes, even against Bulgaria and that. Gazprom will not be able to do anything ... -only persuasion and concessions can achieve something ... -And about Zap. Europe and China ... is generally a separate special conversation ...
    - This is where Gazprom can get away from its thousand-kilometer pipes ??? -Well, how will Europe, when it completely liquefies on LNG, begin to insist that Gazprom dismantle all its pipelines altogether ... -What then ???
    - And there is no need here ... here ... here ... here try to "argue" ... that, they say, winter in Europe will be "very wintery" and that Europe will freeze without pipe gas; or that Germany "invested heavily" and now stands right up the mountain behind SP-2 and other Gazprom personal belongings ... -This is all so ephemeral and temporary that one should not hope for it ...
    - It's just that Gazprom's time is coming to an end ... - its foreign pipe options are outdated ... - they are no longer profitable and unprofitable for Russia (and Russia ... is not Gazprom) ... - And build new pipelines abroad .. . is an absolute gamble ... -Therefore it was necessary to "squeeze" the old foreign pipelines ... and not build new ones at all ...
    - Today, with SP-2 and the Turkish stream, there are already problems above the roof ... - Anyone can put sticks in the wheels ...- at least Turkey, at least Bulgaria ...- and Greece (if a thread goes through it) .. .-all of them will immediately start pumping rights ... -And where will Gazprom get away from all these pipes ???
    1. Oleg Mogilny Offline Oleg Mogilny
      Oleg Mogilny (Oleg grave) 10 December 2019 17: 56
      +5
      You, of course, are a noble economist, only 28 years old, and in the gas business you cut a dick
    2. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
      S.V.YU 11 December 2019 09: 22
      0
      Madam, it's time to know that pipeline transport is the CHEAPEST mode of transport!
  9. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 9 December 2019 19: 17
    -8
    Quote: gorenina91
    what personally have I tried so long and in vain to convey to everyone

    Sorry, but I wanted to ask everyone - why in vain?

    Reasonable people understand everything anyway, but you still won't prove anything to regular patriots - they "broadcast on a salary."
    1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 9 December 2019 21: 28
      -5
      - Yes, I agree...
      - But, judging by the minuses ...- then there are not so many reasonable ones ...
      - Moreover ... - even when they (this is the majority) see with their own eyes that they are wrong (the facts are already crying out about it) ... - all the same, for these "reasonable on the contrary" nothing changes ...
      - There are all sorts of arguments and any logic just resting ...
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 10 December 2019 17: 00
        +1
        Quote: gorenina91
        - But, judging by the minuses ...- then there are not so many reasonable ones ...

        That's right, and you are not among the reasonable. For whatever the United States builds, reservations, prisons and ghettos are obtained. Everything is generously sprinkled on top with carpet bombing.
        Ukraine in 1992 consumed 132 billion cubic meters of gas per year. Germany that year - 18 !!! And so they built democracy in the American manner - and built it - a ghetto in the Donbass, devastation in Kiev, and a white sahib - the 3rd secretary of the American embassy - stands above the president of Ukraine. He will remove / appoint the governor, and he will move the troops, and the cookie ... will be taken from the child.
        1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
          gorenina91 (Irina) 10 December 2019 17: 51
          -7
          - write so much about Ukraine; about Germany; about Kiev ...- and not at all to write about Paris and ... Macron ???

          That's right, and you are not among the reasonable. For whatever the United States builds, reservations, prisons and ghettos are obtained.

          - Because of the reason "USA build reservations, prisons, ghettos" ???
          - Is there a reason for me ???
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 10 December 2019 18: 05
            0
            Quote: gorenina91
            ... and not write about Paris at all and ... Macron. ???

            What to write. When an explosion occurred at a gas distribution station in Vienna this spring, Macron said yes, Paris is bad without Russian gas.
            But only a week without Russian gas they lived ...
            Well, here you are, and about Macron, and about Paris ..

            - Is there a reason for me ???

            You see, reservations are built either by you or by you. A third is not given if your fists are weak.
            Which category are you from?
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 10 December 2019 10: 43
      +5
      Reasonable people understand everything anyway, but you still won't prove anything to regular patriots - they "broadcast on a salary."

      Congratulations. There are already two of you. laughing
  10. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 9 December 2019 19: 19
    -7
    Quote: Ravshan
    Gazprom in a very difficult situation

    And in what other situation can he (Gazprom) be if the GAZ manager saw and only sees him in the cooking zone burner?
  11. Yuri Nemov Offline Yuri Nemov
    Yuri Nemov (Yuri Nemov) 9 December 2019 19: 26
    10
    Well, no way LNG can be cheaper than a pipeline. This crap is complete. Tidy up your ears, fraer is trying to arrange a divorce. Ugh on him four times.
    1. lev1759 Offline lev1759
      lev1759 (Eugene) 9 December 2019 21: 03
      10
      Ugh on him four times.

      You can even spit more ... The Germans rush into a fight with amers for Nord Stream-2. And all sorts of ravshans with dzhamshuts and other "goreniny iksperds" are trying to imply that pipeline gas is needed not by Geyrope, but only by Gazprom ...
  12. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 9 December 2019 19: 44
    -5
    And here recently, "foaming at the mouth," someone argued about the Superpower? So what, did nuclear weapons help the Superpower?

    Life is nothing without respect
    empty water on an empty stomach!


    Maybe some will reach 2024 g?
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 10 December 2019 10: 49
      +7
      And here recently, "foaming at the mouth," someone argued about the Superpower? So what, did nuclear weapons help the Superpower?

      Did you happen to be mistaken in the article? recourse If not, then a rather strange logic. A journalist (author) and a retired diplomat (Platoshkin) believe that everything is lost. We will pay and repent, pay and repent, and so on with lunch breaks. What does a nuclear weapon have to do with it? request Suggest to bang? belay
    2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 10 December 2019 17: 06
      +6
      And what will happen in 2024? 3 million killed by Bush Jr., 750 thousand killed by Obama, a hundred thousand killed by Trump - will be resurrected, out of respect for life?
      Bush ml killed Iraqis more than Hitler Jews. Hitler shame, and Bush - the delight of admirers from Ukro-Indians. Which lead in the right direction - in the reservation.
  13. Victor N Offline Victor N
    Victor N (Victor n) 9 December 2019 19: 45
    +7
    Fundamental mistake: Gazprom does not want to dominate, but sells more, but with lower costs. And he was very well prepared for possible crisis situations. Take your time to gloat!
  14. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 9 December 2019 19: 45
    +8
    Is that Ukraine’s dreams ?! Russia will not have to!
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  16. Jar.serge Offline Jar.serge
    Jar.serge (Reznik) 9 December 2019 19: 53
    -1
    Not everything is so simple ... But on the whole I agree that Gazprom is not equal to Russia.
  17. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 9 December 2019 19: 58
    0
    Therefore, it is more convenient for many countries to take liquefied gas. At some points It is sold cheaper than piping.

    :-)
    1. lev1759 Offline lev1759
      lev1759 (Eugene) 9 December 2019 21: 06
      +2
      :-)

      No words - just drooling ... To argue with dill - only time to lose.
  18. Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 9 December 2019 20: 42
    0
    War is war ... And it will continue.
  19. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
    Ravshan (Jamsut) 9 December 2019 22: 08
    -13 qualifying.
    Bravo, Marzhetsky.
    I have never praised you, but everything once happens for the first time.
    Very correct article.
    Some details are missing:
    1. Gazprom ALREADY paid Naftogaz more than $ 2 billion according to the decisions of the Stockholm arbitration. Quietly so, without much noise. And will pay more.
    2. The first gas carrier ships will massively descend from the slipway into the water in South Korea in 2021.
    3. In 2020, the United States will increase gas exports to Europe by 1,5 times.
    4. Occupation of the European gas market by US suppliers will end sometime in 2022-23. From now on, Gazprom will have the status of a reserve supplier in Europe. With a very small quota for gas supplies. At the same time, the price of gas from Gazprom will not matter - there will be no competition.
    5. In 2050, Europe plans to completely abandon fossil fuels by 100%. Until now, the share of such fuel in the energy balance of Europe will gradually decrease. Those. every year Europe will buy less and less gas.
    6. Around the years 2022-23. China plans to become an EXPORTER of hydrocarbons. Because the largest reserves of shale sand are in China. From now on, the Asian hydrocarbon market for Russia will most likely be lost.
    That is, in short, something terrible is approaching Russia. Actually scary, VERY.
    1. kartalovkolya Offline kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 10 December 2019 08: 50
      +2
      Ay-ay-ay, the truncated is gone, the gypsum is being removed, the klyent is leaving, but here's the figs all over your gay-European face, well, once again, let's water the horses with water from the Spree and the Rhine. Not for the first time this whole western gang-watering can pearl on Russia and what, and where are they ?! And to talk about the need or uselessness of gas is all complete nonsense, gas is the chemical industry, and heating is not the main issue! I read your stupidity and remembered the film "Love and Doves":

      ... I brought the terrible news to your house ...

      and then

      ... run uncle Mitya
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 10 December 2019 10: 54
      +4
      Ravshan bravo! good Without your fiction, it will probably be boring. hi Only if possible 1 question:

      The first gas carrier ships will massively descend from the slipway into the water in South Korea in 2021.

      Why Korea? We've eaten all our bald spots, they say, we can't build gas carriers ourselves, but here it’s like zrada, "demigods", but do they build for the Koreans? Is the hegemon not real?
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 10 December 2019 11: 20
        +2
        Quote: 123
        Why in Korea?

        And most importantly, Korea is building 6 gas carriers for RUSSIA.
        And in the US, Korean gas carriers are banned. Therefore, it is necessary to carry gas to Maryland from Yamal. Russified, former Korean, gas carriers.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 10 December 2019 17: 33
          0
          And most importantly, Korea is building 6 gas carriers for RUSSIA.
          And in the US, Korean gas carriers are banned. Therefore, it is necessary to carry gas to Maryland from Yamal. Russified, former Korean, gas carriers.

          Thanks, of course. hi But where do our gas carriers and shipbuilding level in Korea come from, I know. The question was about the armada, packs of flying off the stocks, gas carriers for the United States.
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 10 December 2019 17: 59
            +1
            What packs, if the whole next year Daewoo and others will build only for Russia. In addition, to supply "semi-finished products" for "Zvezdochka".
            The Americans are so bad with gas carriers that they drive from Texas to Trinidad y Tobago, unload, load onto others, and take them to Maryland. Different freight for the export and import of gas. No wonder in February 2017 gas in Maryland reached $ 6 per cubic meter.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 10 December 2019 18: 51
              0
              Thanks. I know. Look a little higher there, a man spoke so selflessly as foreign LNG. I asked for details. laughing
  20. av58 Offline av58
    av58 (Andrei) 9 December 2019 22: 09
    +6
    Platoshkin is hardly a specialist in pricing and technical conditions for LNG production and transportation. No negotiations and agreements can be made with Ukraine, let alone a paw. As for the decision of the Stockholm arbitration, it was predictable: the Swedes are terry Russophobes, and only full ... or a traitor, could include such an arbitration clause in the contract, but the FSB should understand this issue.
  21. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 10 December 2019 01: 47
    -4
    Quote: gorenina91
    even when they (this majority) see with their own eyes that they are wrong (the facts are already crying out about it) ... - all the same, for these "reasonable on the contrary" nothing changes ...
    - There are all sorts of arguments and any logic just resting

    All right. Because the Slavs are a very emotional and touchy people.

    Emotionality helps in a difficult situation when phlegmatic people (the same Anglo-Saxons) begin to "stupor".
    They also survived in the Second World War because they were very emotional and sincere people. You can’t take them in a snap.

    But in ordinary situations, the Slavs, on the contrary, relax, and include the standard "lazy fool" complex. At the same time, he is also touchy.

    Not only do they make mistakes, but just do not want to see them. And those who point out errors are spit and peck.

    So it was in the old days, once the prophets were boiled in boiling water, then translators (remember, in "Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession" - about "bast does not knit").

    In general, we can say this:

    Slavs and Russians, as the main representatives of this nation, will only heal better after they have worked on the mistakes, having previously discovered and realized them.

    And the main scourges of the Slavs (Russians) are as follows:

    1) LAZY. Only in Russian fairy tales were there such "gadgets for the lazy" as a self-propelled oven and a self-assembled tablecloth.
    2) CHEERE, i.e. hypertrophied high self-esteem against the background of the territorial extent of his native country, in the complete absence of real reasons for such "self-pride".
    3) disrespect for compatriots, with often ingratiating attitude towards foreigners and everything foreign.

    The very "Russian swearing" that many are proud of is a concentration of disrespect for their compatriots. What complex forms are used here, with what degrees. And all for what - to offend a person who is not pleased with something swearing.

    Why is there no such mat in other languages? Yes, because the speakers of these languages ​​simply do not need to humiliate others so much that "the walls are cracking from the fence of the mat". A few words and phrases are enough.
    1. Upmost Offline Upmost
      Upmost (Innocent) 10 December 2019 14: 36
      -4
      That's interesting - almost every time my comments gain the standard 3 minuses. Thank you, this confirms that the essence of what was said is true, and reaches even some of its recipients.

      But in fact, this is so: if what had been said was not true, then Russia would have long since risen from its knees, and standing on its feet, breathing deeply.

      Instead, periodically getting up from his knees, reeling, falling to his knees, and so on in a circle.

      And so for more than 1000 years of history.

      There is clearly something wrong here.

      Well, a country cannot fail to become strong, (yes what's there, just fine and keeping up with the times living), and so that only enemies from abroad were to blame.

      Under the nose, the problem must be sought .......
  22. gore Offline gore
    gore (Alexander) 10 December 2019 06: 07
    0
    Well, then the condition condition. They require 2 lard, but owe us 3 ...
  23. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 10 December 2019 06: 19
    +3
    Quote: Ravshan
    Bravo, Marzhetsky.
    I have never praised you, but everything once happens for the first time.
    Very correct article.
    Some details are missing:

    Somehow I'm dumb after that.request
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 10 December 2019 11: 04
      +2
      Somehow I'm dumb after that

      Congratulations. winked The reward has found a hero good and well-deserved. In general, what we fought for ..... so you should. I told you, be more serious when preparing articles and drive away all these "experts". laughing
  24. Dedok Offline Dedok
    Dedok (Sergei) 10 December 2019 08: 17
    +3
    You can agree or not with the author, but in Stockholm they lost, in London it drags on, which means we won’t win, what will happen with deliveries through Ukraine? Rather, there will be an ambush.
    Yes, in general, this is understandable.
    Another thing is not clear, remember the story of a cleaning lady from Gazprom who lost her handbag? As long as this is still there, it is impossible to hope for a different outcome: the thought process there is apparently completely absent - children, relatives, friends, etc.
  25. Port Offline Port
    Port 10 December 2019 08: 30
    +2
    Quote: UpperMost
    And the main scourges of the Slavs (Russians) are

    You are some kind of strange, you started with Gazprom and reduced everything to an insult to the Slavs, or, to be more precise, Russians, you should not confuse "Russians" and Slavs. In Russia, besides the Slavs, there are others, but the most important thing you did not say is that there are not Slavs in Gazprom, but Zionists, your relatives, hence the result.
  26. Screw Offline Screw
    Screw (Gennady) 10 December 2019 09: 08
    +1
    He will accept, maybe, but will he continue to play further with Ukraine (USA, EU) on its terms ?! Not because the father of the son flogged that he was losing, but because he recouped. And the court for transactions may be Moscow in the future. Why should our Roman law give way to foreign?
  27. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 10 December 2019 10: 47
    +1
    It is necessary to change the avatar on the face of a wild stallion. To laugh was more natural.
    The shale "revolution" has failed. With oil prices under 100, of course, it was profitable, but now, alas, alas. The share of Gazprom in Europe is 33%, the USA is 1,8%. The United States has neither the required amount of gas, nor the means to transport it. American gas is currently being transported to Europe by Marshal Vasilievsky. A very American marshal!
    TANAP and Turkish Stream close the gas demand in Southern Europe. SP-1, SP-2, Yamal-Europe (through Poland) - Northern and Central. Ukrainian transit is needed at a level of no more than 15 billion cubic meters for a period of not more than a year - while the Greeks and Bulgarians move up. And then - sorry, pipes! Violinist BidenlandUkraine is not needed. The Americans who pocketed the Ukrainian energy sector and breweries are indignant!
  28. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 10 December 2019 11: 11
    +3
    Neither Platoshkin nor DW are close gas specialists.
    If someone is really interested in the problem of "competition" between the United States and the Russian Federation on the European gas market, spend 26 minutes on this video and you will forever clear this issue for yourself. The United States is simply not able to compete with the Russian Federation in Europe.
    By the way, this is the second time I draw your attention to this video.



    This is truly a serious expert in the field of energy.
  29. Well, they’re taking it to the cannon!
  30. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 10 December 2019 12: 17
    +3
    Already got with this Gazprom. Here their director recently said that it is necessary in the country to sharply raise tariffs for the population to European prices. Say, they lose profit. But he said nothing about salaries and pensions. It is necessary to nationalize it, to direct all profits to the budget, and not to Miller’s pocket.
  31. Oleg Mogilny Offline Oleg Mogilny
    Oleg Mogilny (Oleg grave) 10 December 2019 17: 46
    +2
    Interestingly, Platoshkin is a former diplomat or a current economist? How can it be that at some point, purchased and unused goods are cheaper? I bought too much, but I do not need so much, take it for deshman. The old man seems to be slowly surviving from the mind.
    1. Nick Offline Nick
      Nick (Nikolai) 11 December 2019 04: 01
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      Quote: Oleg Mogilny
      Interestingly, Platoshkin is a former diplomat or a current economist? How can it be that at some point, purchased and unused goods are cheaper? I bought too much, but I do not need so much, take it for deshman. The old man seems to be slowly surviving from the mind.

      Platoshkin is trying to gain political weight by populism, IMHO.
  32. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
    Astronaut (San Sanych) 11 December 2019 01: 34
    0
    I wonder what the author smokes, what he writes such "wonderful" texts?))
  33. Nick Offline Nick
    Nick (Nikolai) 11 December 2019 03: 59
    +1
    As the author does not try to prove the opposite, there is no alternative to Russian gas in Europe. There is nothing to replace Gazprom's 37% share in the European market. Neither American nor Qatari LNG can replace such volumes. And LNG prices cannot compete with the pipeline, since the cost of liquefaction and delivery is much higher than the cost of compression and pumping.
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  35. Vasil K. Offline Vasil K.
    Vasil K. (Vasil K.) 11 December 2019 10: 35
    0
    Russia does not expect weather from the sea! The supply of liquefied gas is also increasing, and the pipe to China is another in development. Dictatorship not to be! Also taught by bitter experience.
  36. Yuliya2209 Offline Yuliya2209
    Yuliya2209 (Yuliya) 11 December 2019 12: 36
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    How many gas tankers does the US have? Own gas tankers from US companies is zero. And our gas carriers carry gas to Europe from the USA.
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