Russia's return to the Balkans may end with new betrayals

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The harsh criticism voiced by the President of Russia Vladimir Putin against Bulgaria, in connection with the "deliberate delaying" of the construction work on the Turkish Stream gas pipeline on its territory, has good reason. Alas, certain Balkan countries, some of which gained statehood only thanks to Russia, used to use its intercession for centuries and for many years to be the broadest economic support, today they are in no hurry to pay for good with faithful and faithful friendship. And it is, unfortunately, not only about the Bulgarians ...

"Stream" and now there


It is hardly worthwhile to be surprised that, contrary to the agreements reached earlier, and, equally, to its own benefit and common sense, Bulgaria is constructing its own section of the pipeline carrying Russian “blue fuel” to Southern Europe. It would seem that there to build? The length of the "thread" that must pass through this country does not reach 500 kilometers. According to all preliminary estimates, its construction should have been completed long ago. But no ... What Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov calls “mandatory procedures” that “delayed construction” is actually the most natural, sorry for the expression, mess that occurred when choosing a general contractor for the project. This story is not only scandalous, but also long, like a Mexican series, so there is no point in retelling it all. However, in a nutshell, the Arkad consortium from Saudi Arabia won the competition first, promising to complete the work at a fabulously low price. However, the Saudis either didn’t provide any papers by the agreed deadline, or they were fined with something else, and they were handed over to another consortium, with the loud name “Gas development and expansion in Bulgaria”. There were only people there — Germans, Italians, and even representatives of Luxembourg. Arkad was terribly offended and laughed at the Commission for the Protection of Competition, opponents responded with an appeal to the Supreme Administrative Court of the country. Porridge brewed - do not dissipate ...



It is not known how long the ongoing lawsuit would have lasted (the first hearings on the lawsuit should have begun no earlier than October) if the Europeans had suddenly not spat and refused claims to the contract, leaving the Arabs to deal with the “gas development of Bulgaria”. Still, Arkad will build the Balkan stream, however, they initially did not promise the "Stakhanov" pace. Now, in the conditions of “burning deadlines”, it seems that they are undertaking to lay the bulk of the gas pipeline (300 kilometers) for eight months. Well, what is it that they have enough gas in Riyadh, and winter is far from European. However, some analysts are inclined to believe that all the “mouse fuss” around the construction is nothing but a reflection of Sofia’s attempts to please the United States, desperate to block all possible routes to the Old World for Russian gas. Let me remind you: the South Stream gas pipeline, instead of which Turetsky is now under construction, was just buried by Bulgaria. Characteristically, this decision was made after the meeting of the then prime minister with American congressmen, who strictly “put on sight” Sofia for the “wrong” cooperation in the energy sector. The work by the Bulgarian side was suspended, and there the kayuk came over the whole project. Who exactly is responsible for this, the Bulgarians understand more than well. It was not without reason that Borisov, during his last year’s visit to Moscow, declared that he was grateful to Russia, "not holding evil for disrupting construction." And he added at the same time: "The elder always forgives."

"Brothers" with the owners in Washington


However, how much can you forgive? Moreover - the same thing. Vladimir Vladimirovich’s fears and doubts are understandable. At the end of November of this year, Boyko Borisov had already managed to visit Washington. Incidentally, this was Bulgaria’s first official visit of this level in seven years. In the White House, the prime minister was not talking about the weather. And progress on some issues that, judging by official information, were discussed by him with Donald Trump, is unlikely to contribute to the development of cooperation with our country. And let no one be misled by the words about the categorical impossibility of deploying a NATO naval base in Bulgaria, said to Boris journalists on board an airplane flying to Washington. The prime minister can arbitrarily declare that “the Black Sea is intended exclusively for sailing ships and tourism”, however, the ships of the Bulgarian Navy took a rather active part in the Alliance’s exercises held there this year. And the entrance to existing military facilities, such as the Novy Selo training ground and Graf Ignatievo, Sofia airbase, Sofia does not even think of closing the US Army. And how can you close it if the country is about to enter the orbit of the American military-industrial complex in the most serious way? The Bulgarians set out to buy F-16 Block 70 fighters in the United States. To pay for eight military vehicles, and, accordingly, ammunition and technical support to them, as well as training pilots, it is planned to allocate almost 1.7 billion dollars. By the way, for the far from wealthy Bulgaria, this will be the fulfillment of the demand of the same Trump to bring military spending to 2% of GDP.

And the cooperation between Sofia and Washington, which is growing and expanding before our eyes, is by no means limited to the exclusively defense sphere. Is it possible that they are so openly pulling in with the construction of the “Bulgarian Stream”, because the country's leadership is trying to sit not even on two, but immediately on three or four gas “chairs”? While work is underway on laying a route for gas from Russia to Europe, the construction of the Greece-Bulgaria interconnector is in full swing (the 180-kilometer gas pipeline Kamotini-Stara-Zagora). “Blue fuel” from the Middle East and the Caspian region should be transported through it. Sofia is also showing no less interest in gas supply projects to the Old World from the shelves of Cyprus and Israel. Well, and at the same time they talk about intentions to build another pipeline - along the Alexandroupolis-Burgas route. Through it, the Bulgarians intend to gain access to the supply of American LNG. Just in case, probably ... In principle, there is nothing wrong with trying, as is customary to say in Europe, to "diversify supplies." However, it’s completely nasty when all these movements hinder just our project, in which Sofia swore allegiance to Moscow more than once. However, with the "South Stream" at one time everything was exactly the same. At the same time, the United States is making the most active attempts to penetrate into all areas of Bulgarian energy. Borisov discussed with Trump, in particular, not only the supply of American fuel to the Kozloduy NPP, but also the ardent desire of the American corporation General Electric to participate in the construction of the new Belene nuclear power plant as fully as possible. At the same time, obviously, squeezing our Rosatom and the Chinese CNNC. Bulgaria’s dependence on the United States is steadily growing and this is an indisputable fact. Hence the problems with the gas pipeline.


Serbian "misunderstandings"


Certain questions arise about the state, traditionally considered our main ally in the Balkans - Serbia. Claims against Bulgaria, by the way, were voiced by the leader of our state just during a joint press conference with Serbian President Alexander Vučić, who is visiting Russia. And all, it seems, is wonderful: the joint exercises of the air defense forces in Serbia recently were quite successful, Vučić himself penetrates and somewhere even pathos talks about the “wonderful military cooperation” between the two countries, thanks to him personally Putin and Shoigu ... But now What to do with his completely different speech, recently circulated by the Balkan Insight news agency? In it, the head of the Serbian state declares that there can be no more talk about any new arms purchases! In particular, he says that “after consulting with the Minister of Defense of Serbia Alexander Vulin and the Chief of the General Staff Milan Moysilovic,” he decided on “additional military reforms to make the army faster and stronger.” At the same time, Vucic argues, "we will even stop acquiring weapons," and we will strengthen the defense "in a reasonable way." It is not entirely clear what exactly this is about, but somehow it does not really harmonize with the declarations of the same sovereign husband in Sochi. Of course, we can assume that in this case we are dealing with an informational “stuffing” called upon to spoil relations between Moscow and Belgrade just on the eve of the presidential visit to Russia. However, the Balkan Insight, although it is considered by the media to be rather tendentious, with a clear pro-Western orientation, but has not been noticed so far on wild fakes, such as attributing to the head of state words that he did not say.

Moreover, such a position looks quite logical in the light of another event - the recent visit to Serbia by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Combating the Spread of Arms, Sanctions and Regional Issues, Thomas Zarzhecki. One of the most important official tasks of this official is precisely the organization of prosecution of participants in transactions with the military-industrial complex of Russia. And it’s hardly worth wondering why he paid a visit to Belgrade after an official statement made on November 1 by US special representative in the Western Balkans regarding the Washington’s “concern” about the deployment of “Russian military equipment” in Serbia. Palmer openly reminded Belgrade of "the possibility of sanctions for the acquisition of weapons from Moscow." Zarzhetsky, for sure, arrived to “straighten the brains” on the spot, and at the highest level. It is not surprising that almost yesterday Belgrade’s burning desire, declared publicly, to replenish its arsenals with the same S-400 Triumph air defense systems, after such a “collision” somewhat, let’s say, waned. In any case, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov for some reason specifically specified at the end of the talks between the two presidents: the question of S-400 supplies there did not even arise. Again, do not forget that this year the Serbs made a rather strange “trick”, preferring the French Mistral 3 to our portable anti-aircraft missile systems. That happened exactly on the eve of the visit of Emmanuel Macron to Belgrade, whose Vucic subsequently, if anyone forgot, also declared "an ally in military-technical cooperation," of course, pure coincidence ...

Today, Serbia swears its most ardent devotion, and Alexander Vucic thanks Vladimir Putin and Russian friends for the smile on his face. Boyko Borisov declares Bulgaria “the only alternative for Russian gas” and invites Vladimir Vladimirovich personally to make sure that they are working tirelessly on the construction of the pipeline. Even if you smear it with bread, at least put it on the wound ... What allies will all these Balkan "brothers" be tomorrow? We will see ...
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  1. 0
    5 December 2019 08: 51
    All these are games of the Bulgarian and Serbian leadership. Ordinary people cannot influence decision making. Alas.
  2. -4
    5 December 2019 10: 06
    The title photo is just class ...
    1. -1
      5 December 2019 10: 38
      Yes, it lacks only the inscription with the words of Lavrov, and so the expression on the face of the supreme exactly corresponds to everything that can be said about these so-called "brothers".
  3. -7
    5 December 2019 18: 06
    And the Kremlin with an important face once betrayed Serbia.
    Cowardly.

    Therefore, they do not trust Russia.
    If kneading starts.
    1. +1
      5 December 2019 18: 22
      Therefore, they do not trust Russia.

      And they trust the common people, and everyone else too.

      If kneading starts.

      This means that ordinary people (volunteers) will go to defend their interests, as has always been the case, or have already forgotten how in the 90s the Cossacks left for them and defended their interest. But now the time is different, there is someone to take care of them. Yes
      1. +1
        5 December 2019 19: 34
        ... those who in the 90s went to them, foolishly, to defend their interests, these Serbs later "thanked", in short, they simply said that no one invited the Russians there ...
        And it is true that the Slavic states in the Balkans generally exist only thanks to Russia. On the other hand, it is also true that Russia and their leadership simply "surrendered" them when the Union was collapsing - it is clear that there was no time for them, just like not for the Warsaw Pact, but people remember that ... Now they are spinning "and yours and ours. " They also see that the Russian Federation today is not the USSR, and it still largely depends on the Americans and their dollar ...
        So everything is complicated, with the Serbs in particular. And with Bulgaria and the flow - to close this project there already and that's it ... this is not politics already, but an unreliable partnership.
        1. +1
          5 December 2019 21: 40
          What allies will all these Balkan “brothers” be tomorrow? We will see ...

          On the other hand, it is also true that Russia and their leadership simply "gave up".
          People remember that.

          Therefore, they do not trust Russia.

          Trust is easy to lose, but earned .... you can, of course, say that it was not very desirable or inexpedient.
          All that remains is the business - loot drives, what kind of "brothers / ears" are there.
        2. +1
          6 December 2019 06: 43
          ... those who in the 90s went to them, foolishly, to defend their interests, these Serbs later "thanked", in short, they simply said that no one invited the Russians there ...

          They went there not foolishly, but expediently and were aware of where they were going and why. The Serb brothers never told the people who defended them this "that no one invited the Russians there ...", and they were always thanked for this. Perhaps there were such blatant words in the political arena, but this is politics and cannot be compared with ordinary people. You always confuse everything, ordinary people, are not connected with politics and all this cannot be put on one pedestal, you need to know this border.

          And the truth is that Slavic states in the Balkans in general exist only thanks to Russia.

          In some cases, it is.

          On the other hand, it is also true that Russia and their leadership simply "surrendered" them when the Union was collapsing - it is clear that there was no time for them, just like not for the Warsaw Pact, but people remember that ... Now they are spinning and yours and ours. "

          Defensive weapons and anti-aircraft weapons could still be delivered to them.

          And with Bulgaria and the flow - to close this project there already and that's it ... this is not politics already, but an unreliable partnership.

          Unlike Serbia, nobody bombed Bulgaria.
          PS Serbia has always been and will always be Fraternal to us.
          1. +1
            6 December 2019 11: 01
            The Serb brothers never told the people who defended them this, "that no one invited the Russians there ...", and they were always thanked for this

            You always confuse everything, simple people, not connected with politics

            You are confused. But rather, you just don’t know anything about it. Politics by politics, people went there for various reasons, someone to protect the Slav brothers, someone just to fight, someone for money, and someone to work, on a business trip ... Nevertheless, with different success but all these people really shed blood for the Serbs and risked their lives. Many were injured and severe, many remained disabled, some simply had nowhere to return - their own country fell apart, and these people thought that in the same Serbia they would find a new homeland, that it would help them for shedding blood for it ... And when these people went after all this, to ask the same Serbs for a residence permit, or a disability pension, or at least some temporary housing ... That’s where they heard everything about who called them and where ... And this is politics - the laws of the country, and ordinary people - those who implement them locally. And as we know, laws can be implemented and they can also be looked at in different ways.
            I’m not saying that all Serbs are like that, or that everyone who fought there, everything turned out like this, but for many, for the majority, I would say, unfortunately ...
            1. -2
              6 December 2019 11: 48
              Also you decided to start rewriting the story? And bring contention between fraternal countries?

              ... people went there for various reasons

              Here you wrote everything correctly, with the exception of money.

              Nevertheless, with varying degrees of success, but all these people really shed blood for the Serbs and risked their lives. Many were injured and severe, many remained disabled, some simply had nowhere to return - their own country fell apart, and these people thought that in the same Serbia they would find a new homeland, that it would help them for shedding blood for it .

              And what from this? All those people knew where they were going, and were aware of what was happening. F.I.L.- is also at risk, but this does not give them the right to claim something, also here.

              And when these people went after all this, ask the same Serbs for a residence permit, or a disability pension, or at least some temporary housing ...

              And who could give them all this if they were illegally in the country? They were not their citizens, in order to claim something.
              1. +3
                6 December 2019 12: 50
                Have you decided to start rewriting history? And to bring discord between fraternal countries?

                - this is stupidity, which is precisely the relationship that most often complicates. The truth must be told, as it is, and it must be remembered. And on the basis of this, build relationships, and not only with the Serbs. Thus, then there will be no "unexpected disappointments" and accusations of "betrayal".
                As for illegality - in this, I see, you also have strong knowledge gaps. Do you think they are all there as partisans, or something, they ran through the forests? At your own risk and peril, they crossed the border illegally, and began to fight there with what they took from home? No, they had official status, received weapons and allowances, as they received the status of stay in the country. And to get everything that I said, citizenship is not necessary. And they need an extension of a residence permit, or a long-term visa, etc., and they were told that the war is over, goodbye ... you are more unnecessary to us, especially if you also ask for something ...
                1. -1
                  6 December 2019 13: 50
                  ...- this is stupidity, which just complicates relationships most often.

                  This is not stupid, it all begins with this.

                  Do you think they are all there as partisans, or something, they ran through the forests?

                  Not! They come there legally, as befits any foreign citizen.

                  No, they had official status, received weapons and allowances, as they received the status of stay in the country.

                  Of course, they had official status as a tourist or vacationer.

                  And to get everything that I said, citizenship is not necessary.

                  And how will you receive the pension (which you wrote about) if you are not a citizen of Serbia? This is what citizenship is for.

                  And they need an extension of a residence permit, or a long-term visa, etc., and they were told that the war is over, goodbye ... you are more unnecessary to us, especially if you also ask for something ...

                  That's right, they were volunteers who voluntarily went there. The war is over, why should they be there anymore?
                  Here you are, so how do you judge people, if you were not given a passport and a pension in another country, then he is our enemy and not brother? Yes!
                  1. +3
                    6 December 2019 14: 12
                    I will answer you for the last time on this issue, because I’m tired of repeating common truths, and when you have zero knowledge on the topic, you continue to argue with me ....

                    ... they had official status as a tourist or vacationer

                    - go try to enroll in the army, get somewhere weapons, money, uniforms and allowances in "the status of a tourist or a vacationer." Are you out of your mind? I repeat, this is not a guerrilla war. It is possible to enter the country under such a pretext, yes, it was done, but not to fight. And they fought LEGALLY, and not only on the Serbian side, by the way. But this is a different topic ... Pensions and other social benefits are also credited to people with a permanent or long-term residence permit in the country, subject to certain conditions. They became disabled military men in the ranks of THEIR army, although as volunteers, this does not change the fact. Those who wanted to return home naturally returned, and I'm not talking about them. Some, for various reasons, wanted to stay - they were there for a long time, got a family, friends, property, but everything fell apart at home, there is no country, no work, families and friends, too, where and why should we return? For many during this time, the passports of the USSR had already become invalid, and they did not know much about the citizens of which countries they could be - the Union collapsed ... What would happen next, no one knew ... That's what I'm talking about these people. And when they went to the Serbian authorities, with a request to allow them to stay in the country, given the current situation and their military services to the country, most of this was simply denied ... thrown out ... Someone coped with this over time, who no ...
                    And this is also the truth, which also cannot be forgotten. I repeat again: you don't have to draw different ideal pictures for yourself, calling it history, so that you will not be "unexpectedly" disappointed ... And this is not only about Serbia. And stories in general.
                    1. 0
                      6 December 2019 14: 21
                      ... go try to enroll in the army, get somewhere weapons, money, uniforms and allowances in "the status of a tourist or a vacationer"

                      It is easy, without problems, for example, F.I.L., and in many other structures this is also possible.

                      Pensions and other social benefits are also accrued to people with a permit for permanent or long-term residence in the country, subject to certain conditions

                      Perhaps somewhere there is such, but we are talking about Serbia, but there is no such thing.
                      You simply understand all this from your own point of view, but in reality everything is different.
                      1. +2
                        6 December 2019 14: 28
                        Perhaps somewhere there is such, but we are talking about Serbia, but there is no such thing.

                        - This is true throughout Europe, including Serbia. And my views are based solely on personal experience. What I don’t know, I’m silent about. Unlike you, apparently.
                      2. 0
                        6 December 2019 14: 36
                        And my views are based solely on personal experience.

                        So I always write personally from my experience or from the experience of people close to me who were there. I don’t go into other sections of the site, but always comment only on articles that are familiar to me, their content topics. What I don’t know, I’m silent about.
            2. +1
              6 December 2019 12: 07
              And when these people went after all this, ask the same Serbs for a residence permit, or a disability pension, or at least some temporary housing ...

              They asked all of this from politicians, only they had the right to give them all this, and not ordinary people. But, at that time, politicians were already set up that supported the rhetoric of the minke whales, and they were put by them. Hence all the consequences are obvious.
              1. +2
                6 December 2019 14: 20
                They asked all this from politicians, only they were entitled to provide all this to them.

                - politicians don’t provide anything to anyone, local government bodies or the lower echelons of government agencies that people contact are doing this. And there, too, people are sitting, simple people, the people, as you put it, and how and how to interpret the law, help the person who is sitting in front of you, or refuse to help, in the vast majority of cases is precisely in the competence of these citizens. And not parliament, the president, etc ...
                1. -1
                  6 December 2019 14: 24
                  Only all of these laws and regulations come from politicians.
      2. +1
        5 December 2019 21: 34
        in the 90s, the Cossacks left for them and defended their interest.

        Yes, there the Cossacks did not protect interest, but really living people!
        What side did the Yeltsin guild cling to these Cossacks?
        Once Boris Nikolayevich was, he only had time to print and break reports in Washington, break, break, break. As a result, he broke forward two generations, but he did not forget about himself, his beloved, along with the clan.
        1. +4
          5 December 2019 21: 50
          There, not only the Cossacks were among the volunteers ... this is so, for information ...
          And trust is right. One side. On the other hand, all these "brothers" were always "yours and ours": Bulgarians in WWII were officially Germany's allies, they received military assistance from the Germans, but at the same time they refused to fight on the Eastern Front. But in Yugoslavia they fought on the German side. And the "yugs" themselves later, after the war, and the Serbs as well, also tried so hard - both here and there ... And for a long time they did it really well ... So the accusations that they were abandoned, too, not that absolutely correct, although they are justified ... In short, in the Balkans, as always, everything is complicated and confusing ... recourse
          Just there, if you conduct business, you must constantly keep in mind that they never have anything 100%.
          1. +2
            6 December 2019 10: 59
            not only Cossacks

            This is understandable, the Cossacks, as a purely rhetorical symbol of the Russian Slavs, and not state Russians.
            There were many volunteers of all kinds.

            Bulgarians and WWII were officially allies of Germany,
            "Yugi" then, after the war, and the Serbs as well, also tried so hard - both here and there ...
            Just there, if you conduct business, you must constantly keep in mind that they never have anything 100%.

            If it's short.
            Everything was fine there, and then "perestroika" began.
            They managed to demolish and poke with lightning speed, but it turns out that building is not easy.
            And other "builders" have already come in large numbers on the abandoned "ruins" and have succeeded.
        2. -2
          6 December 2019 06: 12
          Yes, there the Cossacks did not protect interest, but really living people!

          This interest was in these people in order to save their lives and save this people. Yes

          What side did the Yeltsin guild cling to these Cossacks?

          In general, no sideways. fellow Cossacks went to them, angry on his own initiative sad and not from the "Yeltsin Guild".
          1. +1
            6 December 2019 11: 12
            In general, no sideways.

            But she represented the state.
            In other words, the Russian state did not see any interests there, while other countries followed / expected a reaction at this level.
            1. 0
              6 December 2019 11: 52
              But she represented the state.

              And what from this? People went to them of their own free will, and not from a representative of the state.
              1. 0
                7 December 2019 20: 38
                not from a state representative.

                That's right, and now the state is trying to "cut cabbage" at the expense of these people. wassat Thus,

                Russia's return to the Balkans may end with new betrayals.

                From the same side of Russia, Eastern Europe has passed this not so long ago. Yes
                Thank God that the people, one might say, remained uninvolved.
  4. 0
    5 December 2019 19: 08
    Quote: OXOTHuK Sakha
    And the Kremlin with an important face once betrayed Serbia.
    Cowardly.

    Therefore, they do not trust Russia.
    If kneading starts.

    Russia almost threw skates back in the 90s. And then, when we especially needed support, even with the weak hand of a small fraternal country. they darted in different directions. Like rats. Yes, okay, in the EU. The economy is weak, support, hopes ..... It is clear and not condemned. No, creatures, have fallen into NATO. WHO to hide from? And who?

    The Second World War. The weak handle of tiny Mongolia .... WHAT help came from there, amazing! We will never forget and will be grateful. And Bulgaria. Brothers, your mother !!! Who were you fighting against? Two of our submarines sunk. The Yugoslav partisans were soaked, freeing the Germans from this work and allowing them to go to the Eastern Front.
    This will also never be forgotten.
  5. 123
    +2
    5 December 2019 19: 55
    Russia's return to the Balkans may end with new betrayals

    Maybe it will end, but maybe it will not end. Or maybe lead to a revolution or the rapid development of beekeeping. Close can betray. Is Bulgaria an ally to us? If not, then what kind of betrayal are we talking about? About slow pipeline construction? Well, so they have a bureaucracy worse than ours. Moreover, there is nothing to pump through the pipe. Or is the second branch of the Turkish stream already completed? As for Serbia, their whole fault lies in speaking

    .. recently replicated by Balkan .. Insight?

    And in it, you will not believe request

    At the same time, Vucic argues, "we will even stop acquiring weapons," and we will strengthen the defense "in a reasonable way."

    I had almost no doubts that he was a real traitor. smile But that’s not all, it turns out they

    made a rather strange “trick”, preferring the French Mistral 3 to our man-portable air defense systems.

    Yes, that’s how they will soon reach the level of Belarus and Kazakhstan on the path of betrayal. belay Well, the last nail, money for the S-400 did not accumulate. The level of betrayal is off the charts. am
    In general, another hand-made hair removal of the tailbone with lamentations about "we have nothing to do there, everyone will betray us." sad Moreover, the bases are sucked out of the finger. Apparently, I really wanted to write at least something on this topic. After all, the wound must be constantly picked with a finger, otherwise it will drag on. feel
  6. nbv
    -2
    6 December 2019 13: 46
    If the company "Compliance Development S.A.R.L. - clone Bulgaria ", which is an hour from" another consortium, with the loud name "Gas development and expansion in Bulgaria." Whoever was there - both the Germans and Italians, and even representatives of Luxembourg ", and also so connected with the Pipe Metallurgical Company (TMK). I would be ready. Ruski, be angry with yourself. The EU has rules and laws that must be observed. You want everything to be like in Russia with bribery, corruption and circumvention of the law. You corrupt everyone and everything around you, and therefore you insult and disturb yourself. If you want, build through space. You and your gas are two different things for us!
  7. nbv
    -4
    6 December 2019 14: 04
    Quote: Vkd dvk
    Brothers, your mother !!!

    And yours too! And we will not forget who interfered with the unification of the Principality of Bulgaria and Eastern Romania and attacked us through Serbia in 1885, and then attacked us in World War I with the same Serbia and Romania in Dobrudja and remember the bombardments of Dobrich, Varna and Balchik, and dead people, and the destruction of churches. We also remember the Southern Front in World War I, and with whom we fought in Thrace and Macedonia. And besides this, we remember who brought communists to power in Bulgaria in 1944 and the Bolshevik repressions after that. The Germans led civilly in Bulgaria as good allies, and the Russians as looters and barbarians. And we remember that.
    1. 0
      6 December 2019 15: 08
      Remember, who is bothering you, BUT then you do not need to moan, as it was recently, that, like, you were offended, you weren’t sold, at discounts, and they don’t give it almost for free - then everything is simple - you need the goods , paid, received - no money, no goods ...
      And without even remembering what exactly happened - like Shipka, and the Turks, your memory is short, but thank you for reminding me - now, if someone needs protection, all to the garden ... on your own and only yourself, let you Americans help and protect, they take "inexpensively", after a few decades we will see what you have left there - and sometimes agricultural, and then ... but why remember, you (all) have chosen the path? Have chosen. Now go along it, where - it's better for you to know, just turn off that path ... - well, these are your problems, so solve them - YOURSELF ...
      PS Especially about marauders, it’s impressive - well, they robbed you, unhappy, and robbed, well, right for decades, right? Or you still forgot to write how Soviet soldiers raped many, many millions of your women and they didn’t have anything for it, but now that it’s so fashionable to write about Germany, don’t miss such a moment ... am
    2. +1
      7 December 2019 03: 16
      ... attacked us in World War I

      - This is Germany and Austria declared war on Russia. Bulgaria was an ally of Germany, got into someone else's fight, and got it. Who attacked you? Russia did not and does not have a common border with Bulgaria. And if you have provided your ports to German warships, then do not be offended. In war, as in war.

      We fought in Thrace and Macedonia.

      - who were you fighting with there? Warriors, damn it, what did you fight with sticks and stones? Bulgarians can only fight drunk, reveling in plum brandy. What does Russia have to do with it?

      The Germans led in civilized Bulgaria and as good allies.

      If the Germans were such good allies, then why did you betray them in 1944 and declared war on Germany? Maybe it’s not in Russia, but in the meanness and venality of the Bulgarian elite?
      If you have enough mind, understand a simple thing. Bulgaria is a small wretched country with zero authority and zero economic potential was, is and will be a small bargaining chip in the geopolitical game of superpowers (Russia, China, the USA). The smartest thing is to maintain neutrality and outside the bloc position (like Austria, Finland) and mutually beneficial to cooperate with everyone. They only believe the Anglo-Saxons that they will make Bulgaria rich, will protect someone (open the textbook and find at least one fact). For Americans, Bulgarians are just like natives like blacks in Congo. Or have you already decided that Bulgarians are American brothers?
      And about the gas. Bulgaria had a chance to increase its authority in the EU, but you traded it for the opportunity to lick the ass of the Americans.