In Russia, they announced the liquidation of infrastructure for gas supplies to Ukraine




December 4, 2019 Russian economic Mikhail Krutikhin, an analyst and expert on the oil and gas market, said that Russia has begun dismantling some of the equipment designed for gas transit through Ukraine. The specialist and candidate of historical sciences wrote about this in the Russian version of the journal Forbes.

Krutikhin noted that on December 31, 2019, the agreement between Russia and Ukraine on gas transit to Europe will end. And if Kiev does not take the necessary measures to extend the contract, then Ukraine risks completely losing gas supplies from Russia. He clarified that despite Moscow’s compromise proposals, Kiev stubbornly continues to speak the language of intimidation, incorrectly assessing its situation. So in the future 10 years, Ukraine may completely lose the ability to transit gas through its territory.

In 2016, Gazprom adopted a program for decommissioning the gas transportation infrastructure that delivers gas to the Ukrainian border. By 2020, 4300 km of pipes and 62 compressor stations will be eliminated in this corridor, and 2030 km by 10700. Opportunities for pumping gas from Russia through Ukrainian territory will disappear

- explained Krutikhin.

In turn, we want to remind you that NAK Naftogaz Ukrainy has already received a notification from PJSC Gazprom, which is from 10:00 Moscow time. January 1, 2020 Russia will have no reason to continue the transit gas supply. The thing is that after the full commissioning of Nord Stream-2 (with ground branches in Germany), Gazprom will be able to pump 110 billion cubic meters on the four lines of both Nord Stream. m of gas per year. At the same time, Gazprom will be able to pump 31,5 billion cubic meters through two lines of the Turkish Stream (after completion of the construction of the site in Bulgaria). m of gas per year.

But that is not all. We must not forget about the existence of two lines of the Blue Stream gas pipeline, also going from Russia to Turkey. The capacity of this gas pipeline is equal to the “Turkish stream” and it is already working. So already in mid-2020, Russia will be able to supply 173 billion cubic meters. m of gas per year to Europe (counting along with Turkey), bypassing Ukraine. And this is without taking into account the supply of liquefied natural gas (LNG).
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 3 December 2019 17: 09
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    The long-overdue and absolutely right decision of the Russian Federation ... It is high time to tie up with deliveries and transit through an independent one ... Since Gazprom is supposedly a monopolist and is imposed on Ukraine, damaging it, let it now look for other suppliers, for example, in the USA, and sue them. .. and we'll see ... from the side ...
  2. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 3 December 2019 17: 41
    -10 qualifying.
    - Well, if Russia something began to grow together with foreign Turkey .., then it should work with Ukraine too (with great difficulty, but it will work out) ...- now this is a very suitable moment ... -A if it starts to improve with Ukraine, the tremulous and troubled Belarus will also go anywhere from Russia ... - she will all throw herself into Russia’s arms ... Hahah ...
    - This will not work with China ... -there is a completely different danger for Russia ...- much more serious ...
    1. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 3 December 2019 17: 54
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      I understand everything, you are so eager to enlighten us, the unreasonable, BUT, perhaps, DO NOT NEED TO REPEAT ABOUT ONLY ONE AND THE SAME TIME ALREADY?
      It has been written to you more than once that there are very serious contradictions in your posts and arguments, but again and again you write almost the same thing ... Personally, I have a point of view that at a certain stage we do NOT need Ukraine at all, nor in what form, so try to pull it and so on - why ??? Rather, you need to dig a moat with a depth of two hundred meters and no less than the width and run crocodiles there, so let them explain to them who want to cross this moat that they are white and fluffy, if I’m joking, they’ll think about something else. hi
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 5 December 2019 10: 52
        +1
        321, whoa how bloodthirsty you are !!!!! lol
        1. plabu Offline plabu
          plabu 5 December 2019 11: 42
          +1
          Well I wrote - just kidding. bully
    2. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 4 December 2019 14: 28
      -4
      - Here is my whole comment ...

      - Laughs like ... - what's going on ...
      - Damn ... - everything got swamped and cemented "in the Oblonskys' house" ... - and then they will start talking again ... - "We thought so"; "we said so" ... - Also the rooster does not crow ... how ... how ... how ... how they (this whole group of "O"), as always - will deny their own " cons "and" smart judgments "... -Hahah ... - I understand that it is useless .., but explain again ... for ...
      - Group "O" can also listen ...
      - Figs with him at all ...- with all this gas and all these useless gas pipelines ... -Gazprom still lost ...- lost in all respects ... - And in the West and in the East ...
      - Today Gazprom is no longer an economic precedent for Russia, but a political one ... And in order to finally get at least some benefit from this useless outgoing Gazprom ... - Russia should try to use Gazprom as a political precedent ... with Ukraine .. -Gazprom has already played such a role in establishing gas relations with Turkey ... -Although all this is terribly economically unprofitable (even unprofitable) for Russia, but ... but ... but ... but a serious progressive rupture of Turkey with the Americans began and with Zap. Europe ... - and Macron suddenly "danced on his hind legs" ...
      - That's exactly the same way Gazprom should play with Ukraine ...
      - Yes, all these new long-term gas contracts with Ukraine are also economically disadvantageous for Russia ... but this may lay the foundation for other relations between Russia and Ukraine ... -What can Russia lose from these "new gas contracts" .. . is a mere trifle ... in comparison with the growing colossal chasm in relations between Russia and Ukraine, which carries huge financial losses for Russia ... -This is all simple today and is used by the USA and the West. Europe ...
      - Well, if Russia something began to grow together with foreign Turkey .., then it should work out with Ukraine too (with great difficulty, but it will work out) ...- now this is a very suitable moment ... -A if it starts to improve with Ukraine, the tremulous and troubled Belarus will also go nowhere from Russia ... - it will all throw itself into Russia’s arms ... Hahah ...
    3. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 4 December 2019 15: 15
      +6
      With Ukraine - it should work too

      Now is the right moment for this.

      ... but why is he so suitable right now, excuse me? Well, if only by the fact that the previous contract ends ... And given how it ends now and under what circumstances, what can you expect from the next one? Why "walk the rake" ??? Well, the regime in Ukraine will change, and it will be possible to talk ... And even to lay a new pipe, ours, too, since the times of the USSR, tea, it would still have to be changed ... But now, why? Bypass routes, with grief in half, but built ... There are volumes. Why feed the Banderlog? Three decades they were pumping through them - that's what they got to ... does it really make sense to continue in the same form ???
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 5 December 2019 10: 56
        +4
        Alexei ... there, along the way, it’s not the mind, but the stream ... it’s not known what ... it’s very difficult to call it the mind ... That’s the whole thing. USSR (with the exception of certain sane, but this is not about her)
        She still believes that we MUST, SHOULD ... This nonsense is more and more difficult to disassemble with each of her comments ...
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    4. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 5 December 2019 10: 48
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      In general, like that, Ira, let’s point by point, otherwise you have piled everything in a heap.
      1. It did not "begin to grow together" with Turkey, but grew together.
      2. Why do we have something "MUST GET" with the Ukrainian territory? What are we OBLIGATED?
      3. What is the right moment - what are you talking about ??? Former. USSR - declared us ENEMY !!! (or we’ll exaggerate?)
      4. About Belarus - which side is it? And what does the "gas problem" and Belarus have to do with it? That all in a heap heap?
      5. About "hugs" - we, in principle, - in half, whether Belarus will be with us in the Union State or not. Of course - I would like to restore the integrity of the state, but the main thing - WOULD! In principle, we are already accustomed to the fact that around us - podgavkivayuschih am ... people, that's just a pity in our "former" - again deceived and, for the umpteenth time, sold, deceived and sold again ...
      6. China ... and we ONLY trade with it ... including gas. Where is the danger, what is it? We have no illusions about the Chinese - they are on their minds and think that they are the most cunning (well, well ... let's see!) ... But trade (including with ENEMIES), unfortunately, is still necessary a component of our budget (we, however, are not at war with SUCH "enemies" (and God willing we will not) ... and they consider us enemies as well) ... If it comes to hostilities with them, then trade will stop. In the meantime, our economy, unlike the Soviet one (and even then there were economic relations through thirty-third hands) does not have the ability to FULLY support itself ...
      1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
        Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 December 2019 13: 07
        +1
        Welcome to the O group, colleague! fellow You are angry mistress! A word thrown across ... lol
        I just haven't figured out which is a tougher option - they send you to "O" in Russian or in English ... me in English ... And for dear Irina, something really happened recently, apparently. Some very strange comments have gone, little adequate. Maybe who kidnapped her "nickname" and spoils the girl's reputation? And this happens ... It's a pity ... here, like, besides her, there are no more women ... and even almost under her real name ...
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 7 December 2019 14: 33
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          drinks And a lot of us in this group?
          1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
            Pishenkov (Alexey) 8 December 2019 21: 34
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            ... I don’t know, you ask Irina ... wink I - there already ... So at least two drinks
            1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
              A.Lex (Secret information) 9 December 2019 13: 40
              +1
              ... well then it is already a crowd! laughing
  3. steelmaker Online steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 December 2019 09: 30
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    NEVER people will live richly with this power !! Yes, I spoke and proposed to disconnect Ukraine from gas, but this is only so that if you do not annex Russian lands, then make Ukraine’s loyal power to Russia. But I did not offer to cut thousands of km of pipes into scrap metal. Efforts must be made to unite the fraternal peoples by any means, and not try to strangle Bandera’s power with the people. This Anglo-Saxons and achieve.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 4 December 2019 10: 01
      +5
      Nobody is cutting a pipe yet. Remove sophisticated equipment. By the way, they wrote about this a month ago. This equipment costs money and requires supervision and maintenance. Who will pay for it if it does not work? GTS in Russia is large, constantly evolving. This equipment will be needed elsewhere. New to buy, spend money?
      And from the Ukrainian GTS of Russia, only one pipe may be needed, and then not at full load. Other directions are provided by other gas pipelines. Ukraine itself cannot cut its GTS, their internal gas distribution system is based on transit pipes.
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 5 December 2019 10: 59
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        boriz, so that you know - without "complex equipment" the "pipe" will not work. This is not a hose from a water tank, where everything flows by gravity. Without this equipment, it's easy - a lot of iron.
    2. Nick Offline Nick
      Nick (Nikolai) 5 December 2019 08: 17
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      Quote: steel maker
      NEVER people will live richly with this power !!

      And rich - how do you think? Is there a roof over your head? Do not starve? Do you buy clothes? Do children go to school? Bandits and punks do not rob every month? If so, then you live in peace and prosperity. If there is also a personal car, then it is not at all bad. So do not anger God. Seek first the kingdom of God, and the rest will follow.
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 5 December 2019 11: 06
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        Nikolai ... the truth is, a lot of questions constantly arise ... for example:
        - why does the state oblige its citizens to pay money to PRIVATE insurance campaigns (on the way - an increase in the cost of compulsory motor liability insurance)? ..
        - Why does the state calmly look at the ever-widening gap between increasing prices and salaries? ..
        This is so - for seed ... there are much more questions, of course .......
        PS .......... I do not call for the overthrow of the government or any "Maidan" ....... I am in the 90's AS negative stop enough ........
        1. Nick Offline Nick
          Nick (Nikolai) 5 December 2019 15: 16
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          Quote: A.Lex
          Nikolay ... the truth is constantly a lot of questions arise ... for example - why the state obliges its citizens to pay money to PRIVATE insurance campaigns

          Before the introduction of compulsory motor liability insurance, many, including myself, formalized the DGO of the car owner. There was too much auto-back then, and in the worst form, with a threat to life and health, allegedly to the culprit of the accident. OSAGO allowed to significantly reduce the passions in this matter. And the fact that the private and state-owned companies allowed to compete is better for the client.

          Quote: A.Lex
          - Why does the state calmly look at the ever-widening gap between increasing prices and salaries? ..

          This is a moot point, statistics claim that wage growth is ahead of inflation.
          At least, such as in the 90s, now certainly not observed. Then the salaries were not paid for six months, and the price tags grew every two weeks. Now you can live quite decent, if you don’t particularly show off too much. Here a lot depends on the global economy, but it is not very for us. Prices for our traditional exports are not the highest in recent years.
          1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex (Secret information) 7 December 2019 14: 27
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            Nikolay, you did not answer the first point. You launched into a discussion about the "history of the formation of OSAGO", and not an increase in prices for this very OSAGO. In addition, this OSAGO is turned by private companies, which inflation helps to obtain super profits, ripping off the poorest part of the population, because these increases are not noticeable for the well-off part of the population. cannot be compared with the poor incomes of the poor ...
            Is the growth of wages so "ahead of inflation" that we do not notice the rise in these prices? Are you aware that the standard salary (and this is the overwhelming majority of the population) is up to 15 thousand rubles? Are you aware that the increase in gas prices, gasoline leads to an increase in electricity prices, and hence, therefore, for everything else? In the Orenburg region, the prices for liquefied gas per ruble have jumped and now it is 22 rubles per liter. Neighbors (Samara) - 16 ... And the price "lifters" refer to the growth of something there on the BIDDING !!! Those. equalize our population with the European ... that's just our salary 12-14 tyrs ...
            And you mean "chic" ... The inability to use your own transport do you think "not to chic"? Your reasoning is strange!
            PS - do you know that gas prices are rising once a quarter? (and there is gasoline with electricity ... and everything else)?
            PPS - I didn’t set you a minus - we argue, but do not swear ...
            1. Nick Offline Nick
              Nick (Nikolai) 11 December 2019 04: 15
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              Quote: A.Lex
              Nikolay, you did not answer the first point.

              I answered. Monopolizing the insurance market is a big risk for the state. I had experience with Gosstrakh. I know how they "throw" clients. V.I.Lenin said:

              Every monopoly ... inevitably gives rise to the desire for stagnation and decay.

              - so that we do not have rot and stagnation, let private and state companies compete with each other.
              1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                A.Lex (Secret information) 11 December 2019 21: 31
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                Nikolay, let's remember the state insurance in the USSR. There they did not pursue a rise in prices. The whole issue was in the coverage of one monopolist. And this gave Gosstrakh to roll millions. The current problem is on a slightly different plane - there is (most likely) a place for a "cartel" conspiracy. And most importantly for what? And to get SUPER-PROFITS. And this is not only in insurance, but also in housing and communal services and in retail trade.
                Do you know what principle operates in the Russian Federation in drawing money from the population (that is, all sorts of "mandatory" payments)? And he is simple - deceive your neighbor, otherwise the distant will come and deceive you! To rob - and there at least the grass does not grow!
                And the most interesting thing is that there is an increasing opinion that government officials are EVERYTHING THIS HELP !!! Otherwise, why would all these prices and prices rise every quarter? You can make money from the population as you like, the main thing is to justify it correctly. And correctly submit this justification through the media.

                I don’t feel like talking badly about my country ...BUT ALREADY ALREADY GOT ALREADY WITH ITS GROWTH OF TEN HUNDREDS-HUNDREDS OF RUBLES, AND SALARY RISE BY KOPEY !!!
                After all, you cannot wind up what you sell over the hill at will! There they immediately shove it in the face - A CONTRACT! And if you do not fulfill the contract, NOBODY WILL have anything to do with you (and they will add at last - this is Russia, what can you take from it?) That is why you can not raise prices with "abroad, but with your own population you can do anything and how That is why we remember the USSR - at least there was no SUCH lawlessness there.
                And here - the state condones the rich to rob not the rich, but the rest of the masses of people who have a salary of less than 15 pieces.
                And you can't see ANY competition (and there was none, to be honest) - all this is a lie from start to finish. Throughout the entire Cold War, these amers were poured into the ears of gullible citizens of the USSR (of course - it’s a printed word. After all, it’s TRUE!), In order to rob the loser once again! That's the whole tale about "competition", you can also send tales about the "free hand of the market" there - the same FALSE!
            2. Nick Offline Nick
              Nick (Nikolai) 11 December 2019 04: 21
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              Quote: A.Lex
              Are you aware that the standard salary (and this is the vast majority of the population) is up to 15 thousand rubles?

              In the Vladimir region, 22-24 thousand. Less personal income tax, of course. I DO NOT think that your salaries in the Orenburg region are much lower.
              1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                A.Lex (Secret information) 11 December 2019 21: 32
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                Nikolai, how much does a regular seller in a store get in his hands? What monthly salary?
                1. Nick Offline Nick
                  Nick (Nikolai) 12 December 2019 01: 15
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                  Quote: A.Lex
                  Nikolai, how much does a regular seller in a store get in his hands? What monthly salary?

                  Online from 20 thousand. Judging by the vacancy announcements. In small private stores I do not know.
                  1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                    A.Lex (Secret information) 12 December 2019 11: 26
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                    Nikolay, and if you don’t know, then how can you talk about information unknown to you? What is written in the ANNOUNCEMENT is actually not true (the system of fines and penalties for sellers - that's the whole twenty), but about private traders - you take an interest, BUT - not in the city, but in some obscure district center, on the outskirts of the region. .. So you will have the truth of life.
                    1. Nick Offline Nick
                      Nick (Nikolai) 12 December 2019 12: 50
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                      Quote: A.Lex
                      ... what is written in the ANNOUNCEMENT is actually not true (the system of fines and penalties for sellers - that's the whole twenty), but as for private traders - you take an interest, BUT - not in the city, but in some obscure district center, on the outskirts of the region ... So you will have the truth of life.

                      This is not true life, it is a selective search for the least paid vacancies and professions. And I have other facts when our skilled workers earn 40-60 thousand each. These are gas and electric welders, universal turners, these are operators of CNC machines, these are metallurgists, these are cable men. Why do you suggest everyone to equal the salary of a rural seller, in a village with five yards?
                      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                        A.Lex (Secret information) 20 December 2019 14: 18
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                        Nikolay, I do not propose to equal. Just in industrial centers and cities, salaries are NATURALLY higher. But in the countryside - you take an interest. After all, the bulk of the population is not in the cities ...
            3. Nick Offline Nick
              Nick (Nikolai) 11 December 2019 04: 33
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              Quote: A.Lex
              And you mean "chic" ... The inability to use your own transport do you think "not to chic"? Your reasoning is strange!

              I am now retired from the harmfulness of the profession, and you won’t get away with my pension of 15 thousand, of course, but you can live. And where do pensioners go especially? True, I need a car, the youngest is still studying in Moscow, Thank God on a budget. I also have to go to my daughter, and to my father-in-law in the village, to help with the garden, etc., etc. Therefore, I earn extra money. Along with retirement, 30 goes, and for the maintenance of transport, and other expenses, without frills, of course, I have enough of this money. So there would be a desire, opportunities will be found.
              1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                A.Lex (Secret information) 11 December 2019 21: 47
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                But now explain - how can a seller who is behind the counter for a minimum wage from 10.00 to 18.00 (and often longer) to earn ADDITIONAL money? And here ALL the factories were closed (there was a Kommunar plant "formerly in the structure of the" defense industry ", three (!) Canning factories, two DRSU, PATP, three (!) Construction organizations, Faience (he received medals abroad!), two milk processing plants, a creamery, Asphalt-Concrete (ABZ), STATE car service (!), GEOLOGICAL EXPLORATION (!), KOPTORG (bought agricultural products from the population) ... Of all THIS, ONLY the Elevator remained (and even then - from railway because it's worth it) ... Everything else was privatized with the subsequent bringing to bankruptcy, absolutely EVERYTHING was ruined !!! And the whole area sits on this floor - as you want, get out - some sellers are from private traders, some are taxi drivers (they finish the remaining vehicles), various shabashniks-builders-repairmen, self-made car services at home, various hawkers, shoemakers-tailors ... For THIS sake, the USSR was killed ???
                1. Nick Offline Nick
                  Nick (Nikolai) 12 December 2019 01: 23
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                  Quote: A.Lex
                  And now explain - as a seller who behind the counter for a minimum wage from 10.00 to 18.00 (and often longer) to earn extra money?

                  Over the minimum wage, this, of course, is strong. I don’t know how it is with you, but only a watchman and watchmen work for us at the minimum wage. In private security companies already from 15 thousand salary.
                  As for part-time work, I will say that when I was younger, I worked in a three-shift schedule, and on weekends and evenings I worked part-time in our cultural center. And so for 10 years, until in 1992 everything was closed. Money was needed for a then young family. Life was not easy then, as it is now. It is not for nothing that the saying goes: "Life to pass is not a field to pass." Less complaints and despondency, more optimism - and life will improve.
                  1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                    A.Lex (Secret information) 20 December 2019 14: 23
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                    Nikolay, this is not despondency or complaints. It's just that in our state we should already AT THE END OF THE ENDS come to some specific result - either we are in capitalism (and then the whole "sociality" is a side), or we return to socialism (and then the state takes care of the person).
                    PS I do not urge you to go back to the USSR of the 80s ... mistakes must be taken into account and move forward.
  4. steelmaker Online steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 December 2019 11: 18
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    In 2016, Gazprom adopted a program for decommissioning the gas transportation infrastructure that delivers gas to the Ukrainian border. By 2020, 4300 km of pipes and 62 compressor stations will be eliminated in this corridor, and 2030 km by 10700. The possibilities of pumping gas from Russia through Ukrainian territory will disappear.

    Can you read?
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 4 December 2019 11: 57
      -1
      As for the pipes - it is hard to believe. Most likely, they take the gun.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 4 December 2019 12: 15
      +2
      Although, perhaps you are right. They will leave the Pomary-Uzhgorod pipe for the only transit direction that may still be needed. And her for supplies. And the rest can really be cut. Although, no one knows how much gas consumption can rise in Europe.
    3. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 4 December 2019 15: 23
      +2
      These Soviet pipes still, all the same it would be necessary to change. Like most compressor stations. In Eastern Europe, all the same have long been modernized, for the most part by Czech repair kits with increased power. In the Russian Federation, in my opinion, only a few updated, which, apparently, had already reached the handle. They didn’t want to talk to the Czechs, although they suggested it back in the 90s - apparently, Gazprom representatives didn’t get a big cut by their miscalculations, but they haven’t bought new ones yet ...
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 5 December 2019 11: 09
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        Alexei, who did not want to talk? Ours or Ukrainians?
        1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
          Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 December 2019 13: 10
          +1
          Gazprom did not want to. More precisely, individual representatives. And precisely for the reason indicated by me ... Then they said that, they say, it’s better to have new ones, it’ll be more interesting there wink
          And then I don’t know what happened, the topic apparently resolved ... and the leadership changed, respectively, the team, and I had no more to do with it.
  5. Vasil K. Offline Vasil K.
    Vasil K. (Vasil K.) 4 December 2019 13: 07
    +1
    I believe only that they can drag and drop equipment that is redundant for pumping 15 lard cubes ... No more.
  6. Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 4 December 2019 14: 19
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    Dismantling document on the table ...
  7. musorg Offline musorg
    musorg (Gennady) 5 December 2019 11: 59
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    I think that these are scarecrows for Kiev. They will sign everything, like oil - for 10 years!