Russian "Shell" hit an American UAV over Libya


The last decade of November became “black” for the UAVs of the United States and NATO, conducting reconnaissance flights in the area of ​​the Libyan capital Tripoli.


According to the famous Italian Aviation website The Aviationist, on December 20 and 21, the Italian and US air forces lost two reconnaissance drones in the Tripoli area - the MQ-9 Reaper and the MQ-9A Predator-B.

The authors of the article claim that the destruction of the drones was carried out by the Russian Pantsir-S1E air defense missile system, which is owned by the Libyan national army of Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, who is fighting against the Government of National Accord.

The lack of comments on this issue from the LNA command was the impetus for the appearance in the expert community of another version of the destruction of the American and Italian UAVs.

So, according to some experts, both drones were forcibly planted using Russian electronic warfare equipment, among which the system of executive radio intelligence 1L222 Avtobaza is called the “hero of the day”.

Recall that in June 2019, the media appeared photographs taken at the Gufra air base in Libya, which captured the Pantsir-S1E air defense missile system, which was transported from Saudi Arabia by transport plane.

In conclusion, we can say no matter how the UAVs are destroyed, the US Air Force and NATO will now have to exercise extreme caution in this region.
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  1. Observer2014 Online
    Observer2014 24 November 2019 17: 41
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    Well, why else do you need the "Shell"? He did his job. The carapace can rest. Rather, recharge. Well done. Have questions?
    1. Krasnodar Offline
      Krasnodar 24 November 2019 19: 07
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      A drone can be shot down in a bunch of ways, not necessarily with a Shell.
  2. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 24 November 2019 18: 32
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    No one noticed how the "news" was concocted?

    1. The drone is gone, that's a fact. But that sounds boring without the details, is it? Give me the details!
    2. Further miracles begin. IN original Western news reports that the cause is unknown and an investigation is underway. But why should the author of the article have any investigations? He already knows everything: “The assumption is being put forward” that the drone has landed the Autobase. Although Carpool - this is a purely passive tool.
    3. To enhance the effect, the author drives into the heading "Shell", based on the phrase "approved."

    Here's how the news is made: you write "a suggestion is put forward", then you write any nonsense, then you add "it is approved", and again nonsense.
  3. Observer2014 Online
    Observer2014 24 November 2019 19: 12
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    Quote: Krasnodar
    A drone can be shot down in a bunch of ways, not necessarily with a Shell.

    We are about the "Shell", if that. fool laughing
  4. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 10: 31
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    - Damn, yes, long ago ... they would have taken ... and ... and ... and ... and would have bought (ordered) a batch of cool An-3 airplanes in the city of Omsk ...
    "An-3" - a variant of the cargo-passenger aircraft An-2 with a turboprop engine TVD-20. The TVD-20 engine was designed by the Omsk Engine Building Design Bureau. The aircraft was produced in small series by the Omsk Production Association "Flight" from 2000 to 2009 ...
    - And with ordinary nets (even fishing ones), directly in the air, these drones would be collected like ... like ... like ... like mushrooms ... -You can stretch this network right in the air between two An-3s; and you can even use one An-3 ... with the released network ... -As you wish ...
    - And no “Shells” will be needed ... - Just brains need to be included and used that has long been time to launch in a series ... is a cool Omsk “An-3" ...
    1. Aleksey Glotov Offline
      Aleksey Glotov (alexey glotov) 25 November 2019 11: 23
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      Are you serious))) oh, these women ... such jokes, and if the UAV is so weighing a couple of tons ... it will be interesting to see who catches whom.
      1. gorenina91 Offline
        gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 12: 07
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        - Why not...???
        - Such a “retiree airplane” ...
        - It is enough to throw a network ..- and there ...- be the drone at least five tons ...- does not play a role ...
        - And the plane can simply shoot this network ... at the drone ...; she reveals ... and there ...
        - I do not need a patent ...- "I’m sorry for the power" ... -Hahah ...
    2. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 12: 33
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      You, apparently, decided that the combat drone is something like that with which children play in the yards? These drones, which are mentioned in the text, are comparable in size to this AN-3, fly 2 times faster, and have airborne weapons.
      And then the An-3 with the released network ... yeah ...

      Brains must be turned on and used.
    3. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 26 November 2019 20: 26
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      Irina, is it trolling, or what? If not, then from childhood I was taught to respect women, so I just keep silent.
  5. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 13: 10
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    - I wrote quite specifically ...
    - Someone here personally advised me “something about the brain” ... -Do not try “such” to contact me more ... and try to start a dialogue with me .. -he's an outsider to me now .. .
    - As for the speed of drones (and their weapons) and the beautiful Omsk An-3 .., you should not switch to "Star Wars" and start "air battles" ... - moreover, the speeds are almost the same ... If anyone it suddenly dreamed that the drone’s speed was twice as high .. than that of the An-3 ... then let this “someone” sleep further ...
    - If the “Shell” can “affect” the drone, then a manned aircraft in the air can “affect” the drone much more efficiently ...
    - The rest of the details ... just spill over into a whole separate topic ...- I just don’t want to “start” them ...
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 16: 06
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      About brains, I just took your own quote ... repeat
      AN-3 max. speed is 259 km / h according to performance characteristics, the MQ-9 Reaper has a cruising 250, the maximum is above 400 km / h. This is open data, you can familiarize yourself.

      ... a manned aircraft in the air can "affect" a drone much more efficiently.

      - it can, but in this case it’s clearly not by the network.
      There is nothing more to "start". And I do not need a dialogue in this case. And for what reason and to whom to express their opinion, I will deside by myself exclusively. hi
  6. Screw Offline
    Screw (Gennady) 25 November 2019 16: 24
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    Someone is investing in the “brakes” for the An-3T, judging by the wikipedia article.
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 17: 08
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      ... or they’re lying everywhere, if you mean underreporting ...

      http://oruzhie.info/grazhdanskie-samolety/392-an-3

      I have nothing against the domestic aviation industry, most likely only FOR. To develop. But this is not about that, but just the interlocutor (CA), in my opinion, with this AN-3, no matter how good it was, didn’t quite according to its purpose propose to contact - destroy US combat drones by fishing with a net, and even in groups, like a net of fish. Here, I was somewhat upset by the unrealistic nature of these innovations, so to speak ... request
    2. gorenina91 Offline
      gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 17: 11
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      - Yes, the enemies of Russia and specifically the enemies ... - the cities of Omsk succeeded in this ... -They managed to do everything in order to kill the beautiful Omsk tank "Black Eagle"; to destroy the beautiful Omsk An-3 airplane, which is already ready for production and is flying in full swing in the Arctic, in the Siberian regions in different versions (transport, cargo, ambulance, etc.); and today all the same enemies are very successfully ditching the Omsk "Flight" ...- PO "Flight" of the State Scientific and Technical Center named after MV Khrunichev. ...- Of course, they and the "Flight" collapse ...
      - And the fact that the enemies are doing in Omsk "in the details" ...- about this I’ll just keep silent ...
      1. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 26 November 2019 12: 24
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        Irochka ... not only Omsk has a problem ... throughout the country such an abomination is happening ... under the slogans of "obsolete", as well as - "unprofitable, backward, ..." enterprises, instead of modernizing and updating .... destroyed ... at the direction of a puddle as competitors to the "most advanced and modern" ... so it was with ZIL ... so it was with many like that ...
        Question: if THEIR enterprises are "the most advanced, profitable, modern ..." then why are they so AFRAID of our "backward, obsolete ..."? And is it not because all this “modernity and sophistication” is NOTHING compared to local conditions? Is it because all this is BARE PONTS, for DECEPTION ??? All these "superfood modern" bells and whistles are dust in the eyes of a simple person, because the experts themselves are well aware of what and how it works in certain conditions (especially in the harsh conditions of extremes - the South, the North, the cosmos) ...
        There is one more nuance ... All these "super-duper" SCROLLED - stolen from neighbors on the planet! Of course, there are some things that were invented in the USA itself, there are, BUT - NOT IN SUCH QUANTITY AND NOT IN ALL! Most of the new products are stolen and appropriated. That’s why they are so howling about China, where they have long been put on their “authorship” with a large device ...
        No wonder the GDP at the last meeting said -

        ... while the Americans invent new technologies ... and then "they have a" dag-scratch, "we’ll buy cheaply"

        (although he later said that it was a joke ... but we understand that this is only the WASTE part of the joke ... and the rest is a call to action!)
  7. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 18: 03
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    - Forced to give additional explanations ... to the venerable site visitors ...
    - Basically, the task of drones and other unmanned aerial vehicles ... is the collection and transmission of information ... The speed of such devices is within 130-200 km / h ...- and during the collection of information ...- even less. .. -And high speed drones in this matter (information collection) is practically not needed ...
    - Once upon a time, during the Second World War (WWII) of the Germans, these reconnaissance functions were performed by the effective Fokke-Wulf Fw 189 (“Rama”); he circled rather slowly over the positions of our troops and gathered information ...
    - Today, almost drones have inherited the functions of this "Frame" ...
    - And today there are strike drones that carry weapons and can strike with existing weapons (missiles, air bombs, etc.); or they can also simply carry intelligence functions ...
    - I want to add to this that ... what ... what ... what ... while traveling in the air to the "destination" and while delivering missiles, such drones can reach speeds of about 400 km / h .. .
    - And for bombing and aerial reconnaissance, even such a drone will not accelerate to high speed ... - it just will not be useful to him ... - it will also "slowly hang" and collect and transmit information ...
    - So we returned to the "initial version" of the drone ...
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 19: 10
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      ...well yes. And when you decide to use these drone to "catch net" with An-3 (or even two good), of course, they will not accelerate, but just wait, right? wink I’m silent about the fact that until the AN-3 arrives from somewhere, this UAV will photograph everything and fly away ... Or should these “Anes” be constantly in the sky there? And with networks? ...
      Or maybe it’s better to try a spinner? ... Or in general, a helicopter float? Well, hovering over it imperceptibly, and lowering from above something that will bite ... No? laughing
      ... you usually have adequate comments. And here is a fact ... It would be better to say right away that, they say, there was a joke, and they didn’t bred it all seriously ... otherwise it’s ridiculously simple.
      What is not a joke:

      ... with ordinary nets (even fishing ones), these drones would be collected right in the air like ... like ... like ... like mushrooms ... -You can stretch this network right in the air between two An-3s; and you can even use one An-3 ... with the released network ... -As you wish ...
    2. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 26 November 2019 12: 26
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      Irochka ... we don’t need to set our brains ... absolutely we don’t need to perceive us for those who don’t know history ...
      1. gorenina91 Offline
        gorenina91 (Irina) 26 November 2019 14: 52
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        Well, well ...- it's nice to read the sound reasoning of a person who not only gives a real assessment of the "state of things" .., but also worries about what is happening .... - It does you honor ...
        - Alas, there are not many of those on the site ...
        - As for the untwisted and artificially inflated allegedly “super achievements” ... - here personally I also agree with you ...
        - Where is it easier to offer loud orchestral pompous music to the Russian philistine public, supposedly “scientific and technical achievements” of today ... -This is a simple and simple ordinary bluff ...
        - It’s especially tragic that our Russian public is already accustomed to being presented with “new samples of Russian weapons” .. equipped with imported components, namely: imported electronic equipment, microchips and software, electronic warfare devices, thermal imagers and sighting electronic devices. .. -That's great .., these are “innovations” and “achievements” .. !!! - Moreover, this "import" comes from direct opponents and direct enemies of Russia ... -And this is in the military secret defense region of Russia ... -And it has already become the norm ...
        - And what can we say about Russian civilian projects and our crushed Aeroflot; agonizing Russian Cosmos and other "spheres of Russian achievements" ...
        - Descendants will never forgive this for today's generation of Russia ...