Russian "Shell" hit an American UAV over Libya

The last decade of November became “black” for the UAVs of the United States and NATO, conducting reconnaissance flights in the area of ​​the Libyan capital Tripoli.

According to the famous Italian Aviation website The Aviationist, on December 20 and 21, the Italian and US air forces lost two reconnaissance drones in the Tripoli area - the MQ-9 Reaper and the MQ-9A Predator-B.

The authors of the article claim that the destruction of the drones was carried out by the Russian Pantsir-S1E air defense missile system, which is owned by the Libyan national army of Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, who is fighting against the Government of National Accord.

The lack of comments on this issue from the LNA command was the impetus for the appearance in the expert community of another version of the destruction of the American and Italian UAVs.

So, according to some experts, both drones were forcibly planted using Russian electronic warfare equipment, among which the system of executive radio intelligence 1L222 Avtobaza is called the “hero of the day”.

Recall that in June 2019, the media appeared photographs taken at the Gufra air base in Libya, which captured the Pantsir-S1E air defense missile system, which was transported from Saudi Arabia by transport plane.

In conclusion, we can say no matter how the UAVs are destroyed, the US Air Force and NATO will now have to exercise extreme caution in this region.
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  1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 24 November 2019 17: 41
    Well, what else is "Shell" needed? He did his job. The "shell" can rest. Rather, recharge. Well done. Have questions?
    1. Krasnodar Offline Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 November 2019 19: 07
      A drone can be shot down in a bunch of ways, not necessarily with a Shell.
  2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 24 November 2019 18: 32
    Nobody noticed how the "news" was concocted?

    1. The drone is gone, that's a fact. But that sounds boring without the details, is it? Give me the details!
    2. Further miracles begin. IN original Western news reports that the cause is unknown and an investigation is underway. But why does the author of this article need any investigation? He already knows everything: "The assumption is being made" that the drone was planted by Autobase. Although Avtobaza is a purely passive tool.
    3. To enhance the effect, the author embeds "Carapace" in the title, based on the phrase "approved".

    This is how such news is made: you write "an assumption is made", then you write any nonsense, then you add "asserted", and again nonsense.
  3. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 24 November 2019 19: 12
    Quote: Krasnodar
    A drone can be shot down in a bunch of ways, not necessarily with a Shell.

    We are about "Shell", if that. fool laughing
  4. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 10: 31
    - Damn, yes, long ago ... they would have taken ... and ... and ... and ... and bought (ordered) in the city of Omsk a batch of cool An-3 airplanes ...
    An-3 is a variant of the An-2 cargo-passenger aircraft with a TVD-20 turboprop engine. The TVD-20 engine was designed by the Omsk Engine-Building Design Bureau. The aircraft was produced in small batches by the Omsk Production Association "Polet" from 2000 to 2009 ...
    - And with ordinary nets (even fishing ones), directly in the air, these drones would be collected like ... like ... like ... like mushrooms ... -You can stretch this network right in the air between two An-3s; and you can even use one An-3 ... with the released network ... -As you wish ...
    - And no "Shells" will be needed ... - You just need to turn on your brains and use what is high time to start production ... - this is a cool Omsk "An-3" ...
    1. Aleksey Glotov Offline Aleksey Glotov
      Aleksey Glotov (alexey glotov) 25 November 2019 11: 23
      Are you serious))) oh, these women ... such jokes, and if the UAV is so weighing a couple of tons ... it will be interesting to see who catches whom.
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 12: 07
        - Why not...???
        - Such a "retiary airplane" ...
        - It is enough to throw a network ..- and there ...- be the drone at least five tons ...- does not play a role ...
        - And the plane can simply shoot this network ... at the drone ...; she reveals ... and there ...
        - I don't need a patent ... - "I'm sorry for the state" ... - Hahah ...
    2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 12: 33
      You, apparently, decided that the combat drone is something like that with which children play in the yards? These drones, which are mentioned in the text, are comparable in size to this AN-3, fly 2 times faster, and have airborne weapons.
      And then the An-3 with the released network ... yeah ...

      Brains must be turned on and used.
    3. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 26 November 2019 20: 26
      Irina, is it trolling, or what? If not, then from childhood I was taught to respect women, so I just keep silent.
  5. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 13: 10
    - I wrote quite specifically ...
    - Someone here advised me personally "something about brains" ... -It is not worth "such" more trying to contact me ... and try to start a dialogue with me .. -he's an outsider to me now .. ...
    - As for the speed of the drones (and their weapons) and the beautiful Omsk An-3 .., then you shouldn't switch to "star wars" and start "air battles" ... - especially since the speeds are almost the same ... If anyone - then I suddenly dreamed that the speed of the drone was twice as high as that of the An-3 ... then let this "someone" sleep further ...
    - If the "Shell" can "influence" the drone, then a man-controlled aircraft can "influence" the drone much more effectively ...
    - The rest of the details ... will just spill over into a whole separate topic ... - I just don't want to "start" them ...
    1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 16: 06
      About brains, I just took your own quote ... repeat
      AN-3 max. speed is 259 km / h according to performance characteristics, the MQ-9 Reaper has a cruising 250, the maximum is above 400 km / h. This is open data, you can familiarize yourself.

      ... that a human-controlled aircraft can "influence" a drone much more effectively.

      - it can, but in this case it’s clearly not by the network.
      There is nothing more to "venture" here. And I don't need a dialogue in this case. And for what reason and to whom to express my opinion, I will deside by myself exclusively. hi
  6. Screw Offline Screw
    Screw (Gennady) 25 November 2019 16: 24
    Someone is investing in "brakes" for the An-3T, judging by the article in Wikipedia.
    1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 17: 08
      ... or they’re lying everywhere, if you mean underreporting ...

      I have nothing against the domestic aviation industry, most likely only FOR. To develop. But this is not about that, but just the interlocutor (CA), in my opinion, with this AN-3, no matter how good it was, didn’t quite according to its purpose propose to contact - destroy US combat drones by fishing with a net, and even in groups, like a net of fish. Here, I was somewhat upset by the unrealistic nature of these innovations, so to speak ... request
    2. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 17: 11
      - Yes, the enemies of Russia and specifically the enemies ... - the city of Omsk succeeded in this ... - They managed to do everything in order ... to kill the beautiful Omsk tank "Black Eagle"; to ruin the beautiful Omsk An-3 aircraft, already ready for production and flying in full swing in the Arctic and Siberian regions in various versions (transport, cargo, ambulance, etc.); and today all the same enemies are very successfully ditching the Omsk "Polet" ... - PA "Polet" State Research and Production Space Center named after M. V. Khrunichev. ... - Of course, they will kill Polet too ...
      - And what the enemies are doing in Omsk "on trifles" ... - I'll just keep silent about this ...
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 26 November 2019 12: 24
        Ira ... the problem is not only with Omsk ... in the whole country such an abomination is happening ... under the slogans of "outdated", as well as - "unprofitable, backward, ..." enterprises, instead of modernization and renovation .... destroyed ... at the behest of a puddle as competitors to the "most advanced and modern" ... this was the case with the "ZIL" ... so it was with many similar ones ...
        Question: if THEIR enterprises are "the most advanced, profitable, modern ..." then why are they so afraid of our "backward, outdated ..."? Isn't it because all this "modernity and sophistication" is NOTHING compared to local conditions? Is it because all these are NAKED PONTS, for DECEPTION ??? All these "super-duper modern" bells and whistles are dust in the eyes of an ordinary person, tk. the experts themselves know very well what and how it works in certain conditions (especially in the harsh conditions of extremes - the South, North, space) ...
        There is one more nuance ... All these "super-duper" UNLOCKED - stolen from neighbors on the planet! There are, of course, some things that were invented in America itself, there are, BUT - NOT IN THAT QUANTITY AND NOT IN ALL! Most of the new products have been stolen and appropriated. That is why they howl so much about China, where their "authorship" has long been put with a large device ...
        No wonder the GDP at the last meeting said -

        ... until the Americans invent new technologies ... and then "they have a" scratch-and-pinch ", we will buy cheaply"

        (although he later said that it was a joke ... but we understand that this is only the WASTE part of the joke ... and the rest is a call to action!)
  7. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2019 18: 03
    - Forced to give additional explanations ... to the venerable site visitors ...
    - Basically, the task of drones and other unmanned aerial vehicles ... is the collection and transmission of information ... The speed of such devices is within 130-200 km / h ...- and during the collection of information ...- even less. .. -And high speed drones in this matter (information collection) is practically not needed ...
    - Once upon a time, during the Second World War (WWII) of the Germans, these reconnaissance functions were performed by the effective Fokke-Wulf Fw 189 (“Rama”); he circled rather slowly over the positions of our troops and gathered information ...
    - Today, almost drones have inherited the functions of this "Frame" ...
    - And today there are strike drones that carry weapons and can strike with existing weapons (missiles, air bombs, etc.); or they can also simply carry intelligence functions ...
    - I would like to add to this that ... what ... what ... what ... while moving in the air to the "destination" and during missile strikes, such drones can reach speeds of about 400 km / h .. ...
    - And for bombing and for aerial reconnaissance, even such a drone will not accelerate to high speed ... - it simply will not be useful to it ... - it will also "slowly hover" and collect and transmit information ...
    - So we returned to the "initial version" of the drone ...
    1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 25 November 2019 19: 10
      ...well yes. And when you decide to "catch these drones" with an An-3 (or even two good), of course, they will not accelerate, but just wait, right? wink I’m already silent about the fact that while the AN-3 appears from somewhere, this UAV will photograph everything and fly away ... Or should these "Anas" be there all the time in the sky? And with networks? ...
      Or maybe it’s better to try a spinner? ... Or in general, a helicopter float? Well, hovering over it imperceptibly, and lowering from above something that will bite ... No? laughing
      ... you usually have adequate comments. And here is a fact ... It would be better to say right away that, they say, there was a joke, and they didn’t bred it all seriously ... otherwise it’s ridiculously simple.
      What is not a joke:

      ... with ordinary nets (even fishing ones), these drones would be collected right in the air like ... like ... like ... like mushrooms ... -You can stretch this network right in the air between two An-3s; and you can even use one An-3 ... with the released network ... -As you wish ...
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 26 November 2019 12: 26
      Irochka ... we don’t need to set our brains ... absolutely we don’t need to perceive us for those who don’t know history ...
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 26 November 2019 14: 52
        Well, well ... - it's nice to read the sound reasoning of a person who not only gives a real assessment of the "state of affairs" .., but also worries about what is happening .... - It does you honor ...
        - Alas, there are not many of those on the site ...
        - As for the promoted and artificially inflated supposedly "super achievements" ... - here personally I also agree with you ...
        - It is much easier to offer the Russian philistine audience, supposedly "scientific and technical achievements" of today, accompanied by loud orchestral pompous music ... - All this is a primitive and unpretentious ordinary bluff ...
        - It is especially tragic that our Russian public is already accustomed to being presented with "new models of Russian weapons" ... equipped with imported components, namely imported electronic equipment, microchips and software, electronic warfare devices, thermal imagers and sighting electronic devices. .. -This is great .., this is "innovation" and "achievement" .. !!! - Moreover, this "import" comes from direct opponents and direct enemies of Russia ... -And this is in the military secret defense area of ​​Russia ... -And this has already become the norm ...
        - And then what can we say about Russian civil projects and our ruined Aeroflot; agonizing Russian Space and other "spheres of Russian achievements" ...
        - Descendants will never forgive this for today's generation of Russia ...