In Prague, they want to establish a monument to Vlasov instead of the Konev monument


The head of the administration of one of the districts of the Czech capital stated that he was considering the possibility of replacing the monument to Marshal Konev with a monument to General Vlasov, who served the Nazis.


According to the head of the Prague-6 district, Ondrzej Kolář, where the monument dedicated to the Soviet Marshal is located, Konev is guilty of "personally supporting the conduct of information intelligence before the Warsaw Treaty invasion of Czechoslovakia."

After his opinion was approved by the Czech military-historical institute, the corresponding inscription was put on the monument to Marshal Konev.

The argument of the district warden in favor of replacing the Konev monument with a monument to Vlasov is based on the fact that the Vlasov people took part in the liberation of Prague from the Nazis.

At the same time, the Czech official completely ignores the fact that the fleeing Vlasovites fought with the Wehrmacht units in Prague solely because they stood in their way to the American zone of occupation.

It is also known that breaking through the city, Vlasovites, despite the requests of the townspeople, left the inhabitants of Prague face to face with the Nazis who were left there, who were knocked out only two days later by the coming units of the Red Army under the command of Konev.

Thus, Kolarge, belonging to a cohort of politicians educated in the United States and promoted by Washington on the ground, is going to rewrite the history of the Czech Republic and, first of all, remove everything related to the Soviet Union and Russia from it.
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  1. Observer2014 Offline
    Observer2014 24 November 2019 12: 44
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    Vlasov Chevron. Will we discuss it?
    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 24 November 2019 13: 48
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      Discuss?

      No, what's the point?
      Chevron, perhaps his, but the flag is not. He had another flag, the gray plague, when he sided with the Nazis.
      1. Observer2014 Offline
        Observer2014 24 November 2019 13: 54
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        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        Discuss?
        No, what's the point?
        Chevron, perhaps his, but the flag is not. He had another flag, the gray plague, when he sided with the Nazis.

        Well then. The meaning here, so to speak, is visible without an armed eye. My grandfather, having seen all these signs in 1942 (and he had entered the war literally with Siberian divisions) would have planted a shell, without hesitation, in this symbolism.
        1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 24 November 2019 14: 04
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          Well, your grandfather would have been right, like everyone else, when they began to free their lands from the enemy. And Vlasov, by that time, was already a fascist, and not a fighter of his land from the Bolsheviks.
          1. Sake Offline
            Sake (Sake) 24 November 2019 22: 24
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            It is not true, Vlasov just fought for the liberation of Russia from the Bolsheviks by all means available at that time, and the Wehrmacht at that time was these means.
            1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 25 November 2019 09: 02
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              Not true

              The whole truth is precisely coming from you and the census of history too. negative When, under this pretext, you begin to approve of the actions and deeds of the Wehrmacht. yes The Wehrmacht took the oath of office and stood under their banners, he did not go with his flag to liberate the country from the Bolsheviks, but under their flag of the gray plague and there was no question of freeing the country from the Bolsheviks (this is already an excuse). Japan and Turkey are an example of this; they did not swear allegiance to them and did not take their attributes, but acted on their flag and banner. And Vlasov just acted from the Germans, and not from himself, so I do not need to tell these tales.
              1. Sake Offline
                Sake (Sake) 25 November 2019 13: 01
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                We don’t need to tell fairy tales, it used to be a stupid hang of noodles for us, for example, that Alaska was sold by the “evil and non-Russian” Katerina 2, that Vlasov was a vile “enemy of the people”, but today you can find all the information you need for self-development not from the instructions of the CPSU political prop , but in the original. Vlasov and his movement, as you know, stood under the same flag as today in the Russian Federation, so there is no need to come up with rubbish about some kind of gray ... stupidity goes on and on! I would call bilateral (red and brown) inflammation of the plague in the USSR and Germany in the first half of the XNUMXth century!
                1. 321 Offline
                  321 (321) 25 November 2019 13: 30
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                  You forgot to clarify one small detail - it was YOU who hung up such noodles, if someone had a desire to find out more - there were opportunities, now it’s easier, but there are subtleties too, but why do you need them?
                  PS It’s time to start bringing your opuses to the tablets -

                  ... I would call bilateral (red and brown) plague inflammation.

                  )))))))) "Walk ischo", soon your pearls will be carved on granite)))
                2. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 25 November 2019 14: 00
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                  And so you go, with your source in the original.
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                  1. Sake Offline
                    Sake (Sake) 25 November 2019 20: 06
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                    At a time when you were not yet, in the training programs "Narkhoz." (67-72 years) on the history of the USSR this was given out by candidates of historical sciences and we believed ....
                    1. 321 Offline
                      321 (321) 25 November 2019 21: 02
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                      It’s you who just think that I was gone, dream on - you already wrote to you, not only you lived in those days, but they told you - and YOU ONLY BELIEVED, that’s the whole explanation, I had a different procedure, you have everything I DO NOT write anyway, you’ll start to do the same thing, you look, and you’re smarter)))
                      1. Sake Offline
                        Sake (Sake) 26 November 2019 10: 02
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                        P. Chaadaev:

                        Speaking of Russia, they constantly imagine that they are talking about such a state as others; in fact, this is not so at all. Russia is a whole special world, submissive to the will, arbitrariness, fantasy of one person. Whether he is called Peter or Ivan is not the point: in all cases the same is the personification of arbitrariness.

                        About us, we can say that we are an exception among the peoples. We belong to those of them that, as it were, are not part of the human race, but exist only to teach a great lesson to the world: that is, a lesson on how and why people fall out of the human race and how to re-enter it composition

                        Russia, like a cancerous tumor on the body of civilization, eating the body, it does not understand that it itself is doomed to death! Here it is, the real mission of Russia!
                        There are a number of Russian classics about the Russian people more rigidly and impartially, if you want, I can quote.
                      2. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) 26 November 2019 10: 28
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                        First, write about your mistake with Bismarck, then after that we’ll talk, quote book))))
                      3. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) 26 November 2019 10: 36
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                        Well, for you personally - a Russian classic writing his letter in French, at least because he knew it better - that’s strong (is he a Russian classic?) Well, I personally do not expect your answer to this question ... .
              2. Andrey Yagodkin Offline
                Andrey Yagodkin (Andrey Yagodkin) 25 November 2019 20: 00
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                And here Catherine ll. Alexander ll. You learn pop songs through songs.
                1. 321 Offline
                  321 (321) 25 November 2019 21: 03
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                  Well, he does not know how in another way, he just does not know what can be done here, to teach him? Why do we need this happiness ???)
  • SERGEY SERGEEVICS 24 November 2019 13: 44
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    Found whose monument to put, not the best option they chose. He did not fight against the Bolsheviks, but against his country, when he sided with the fascists.
  • steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 24 November 2019 13: 50
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    I already wrote that the demolition of our monuments, the destruction of graves with impunity, rewriting history, all this comes with the consent of Putin and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. And note, Russia for the desecration of our shrines does not impose any sanctions FOR ANYTHING! And you already know about the prohibition of the Russian language. I will not believe that a country like RUSSIA is not able to do anything!
    1. Sake Offline
      Sake (Sake) 24 November 2019 22: 37
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      I want to remind you that before the age of 14 in all countries of Eastern Europe they were tolerant of the Soviet period (where more, and where with less sympathy) and only the Crimean Rudeness and the unleashed war in the Donbass provoked anti-Sovietism and Russophobia. Each killed Ukrainian is fuel to the furnace of Russophobia, regardless of the country - this can be observed in the Baltic countries, Poland, the Czech Republic, Germany, and others, not to mention Ukraine.
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) 24 November 2019 22: 55
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        Remind yourself, and the rest has known your Russophobia for a long time, also here the fighter for the rights of the offended has appeared)) - what they are paid for, that’s what they do, who is more, who is less ...
        But the fact that you are not in the know is not news)
        1. Sake Offline
          Sake (Sake) 25 November 2019 13: 10
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          It’s typical for a rookie to tell others how to live, but they themselves at the same time have a complete blockage! Do not pander into other people's affairs, do not try to pit one people against another, take care of your country, and then there will be more respect for you. I know that a swaggering “yes we are the coolest” and other nonsense will follow now, I want to bet that no one is afraid of you and will not dance under your balalaika (even under Roldugin)! You have already gotten everyone with your "unobtrusive" friendship, that Mama Do not Cry!
          1. 321 Offline
            321 (321) 25 November 2019 13: 20
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            Of course, this is what we want to demolish, to erect a monument, right?) And who is teaching anyone here? You’re already day after day and trying to tell something here, often unsuccessfully, but these are your problems ...
            To be friends with you ??? Chur me, chur me - why do I need you and people like you to sit there somewhere, here and sit - but you all begin to tell your tales how we, like, want to conquer you))) that's just you , and not only you, why should we? And Poland and the Baltic states, why is there such a need there that one cannot even live without it? NOTHING - that's why you, and not only you, write here how you, like, are being conquered - but about you and people like you there is an old joke about the elusive Joe and why he is elusive) - this is exactly about you, and about all the “attempts” to “win” you and not only you ...
            PS To me, and not only to me, from respect or even disrespect for people like you, neither warm nor cold ...
            1. Sake Offline
              Sake (Sake) 25 November 2019 15: 37
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              You are also on the drum for me, but life teaches us to be more attentive to your statements, promises and agreements. As Bismarck once remarked:

              ... the agreement with Russia is not worth the paper on which the signatures are.

              So what was the Budapest Treaty on Ukraine worth when one of the guarantors himself attacked, captured and muddied the war? That's the problem!
              1. 321 Offline
                321 (321) 25 November 2019 16: 43
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                Once again it was confirmed that you VERY BAD studied, if you studied at all, that Bismarck phrase - the full version of the phrase sounds like this:

                “Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you allegedly justify you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

                Original publication source:

                https://politikus.ru/articles/politics/17333-zheleznyy-kancler-dogovor-s-rossiey-ne-stoit-toy-bumagi-na-kotoroy-napisan-tak-li-eto-chitaem-polnuyu-versiyu-vyskazyvaniya.html
                Politikus.ru

                And you don’t even stutter about the Budapest memorandum - it refers to EXTERNAL aggression, but they broke it and still do it by the locals, miners, volunteers, BUT it’s not the Russian army, and this seems to infuriate you the most)) but these are your problems ....
                You once again showed your essence - you lied and did not think to blush)
              2. 321 Offline
                321 (321) 25 November 2019 19: 01
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                Have you cut through mass again? We, everyone, write on your own behalf, there’s nothing to try to portray the mass here, like you are the voice of the public, huh)))) and we kind of believe you - and do not forget about Bismarck’s words -

                Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

                - this is directly related to you ...
                Do not forget about it!!!
          2. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 25 November 2019 14: 24
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            Quote: Sake
            It’s typical for a rookie to tell others how to live, but they themselves at the same time have a complete blockage! Do not pander into other people's affairs, do not try to pit one people against another, take care of your country, and then there will be more respect for you. I know that a swaggering “yes we are the coolest” and other nonsense will follow now, I want to bet that no one is afraid of you and will not dance under your balalaika (even under Roldugin)! You have already gotten everyone with your "unobtrusive" friendship, that Mama Do not Cry!

            Yes, it’s better, as you said, to be a Rusak and one can be proud of it than to be such a vegetable as you, who, out of fear of that same one, writes all this nonsense.

            Do not pander into other people's affairs, do not try to pit one people against another.

            So far, only you are doing this. Now, probably good for it.

            https://topcor.ru/uploads/posts/2019-11/1574680665

            take care of your country, then there will be more respect for you.

            It has always been with us, is, and will be. yes

            I know that now comes the swaggering "yes we are the coolest

            Конечно. good It is what it is. We are the backbone of everything.

            that no one is afraid of you

            Well, at least one is already there - it's you. Out of fear you write all this nonsense.
            1. Sake Offline
              Sake (Sake) 25 November 2019 15: 39
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              Do not puff out your cheeks!
              1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 25 November 2019 15: 49
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                But why did you start crying You weren’t allowed to work for us, because of this you blew your cheeks. And they did the right thing, there’s nothing for everyone to hang around.
                1. Sake Offline
                  Sake (Sake) 25 November 2019 16: 03
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                  What do you rush about with your monuments? It was not necessary to put them in foreign lands, each nation has its own heroes, and strangers sooner or later become hostile. It must be a complete moron to make these countries bow to your idols! There is a simple solution to the problem - take them to yourself, I’m sure that these countries will return you all to one!
                  1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 25 November 2019 16: 08
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                    Calm down there already, they didn’t let you to work, so go to your much-vaunted Europe, while there are still enough restrooms, you will find work for yourself.
                  2. 321 Offline
                    321 (321) 25 November 2019 16: 27
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                    What do you care about our monuments ??? No, you squealed - it doesn’t matter where, most importantly, you DO NOT live in Russia, and you don’t have enough of your opinion - it’s time to run you on the passport and run through the cards).
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    Panting (Vyacheslav) 24 November 2019 16: 30
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    And even better would be a monument to Vlasov in an embrace with Hitler. I think that the Americans would have approved.
  • Then let Heydrich be a monument.
  • Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 24 November 2019 22: 00
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    So, that period is not perceived by them as a Nazi occupation if they try to erect a monument to Hitler’s assistant. You cannot understand otherwise.
    1. Sake Offline
      Sake (Sake) 25 November 2019 15: 49
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      From Ryazan, one cannot understand the Czechs who lived with the Germans for 700 years and only 40 years with the Russians. They did not perceive the arrival of the Germans as occupiers, in the sense that it was concreted in the consciousness of the bast part of Russia. And the Russian parish was considered precisely as an occupation! In addition, the collapse of Austria-Hungary itself plunged the Czechs into such poverty, where hunger in their 20s became their aunt. The bulk of the population still remembered the period until 1914, when the Czech Republic was one of the most prosperous provinces after Austria, and there was famine! I often visit Prague, I have a bunch of acquaintances, I know how they “breathe” there, there’s more than enough nationalism there.
      1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 25 November 2019 16: 03
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        Don’t lie, you’re lying. You don’t need to know all this if you come to us only to earn money.
      2. 321 Offline
        321 (321) 25 November 2019 17: 08
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        You’re our “connoisseur”, what side the AVI collapse influences and fits in with the arrival of the Russians, and even with the occupation - you’ll put your porridge in your head on the shelves, and only after that write comments ...
    2. Czechs were allies of Handsome Alfi in drang nah osten.
  • Port Offline
    Port 25 November 2019 15: 45
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    Quote: Sake
    It is not true, Vlasov just fought for the liberation of Russia from the Bolsheviks by all means available at that time, and the Wehrmacht at that time was these means.

    Russia needs to be freed from people like you, they have become too greyhound, war criminals can be justified and the Wehrmacht can only be an enemy who must be destroyed by any means and means, without regret and a discount on wretchedness.
    1. 321 Offline
      321 (321) 25 November 2019 17: 10
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      It is unlikely that he is in Russia, they already wrote here that he is either in Ukraine, Kazakhstan is written in the profile ...
    2. Well, and how is he a noose? Do you like it?
  • Port Offline
    Port 25 November 2019 16: 12
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    Quote: Sake
    I don’t believe in your fairy tales and myths, from you only lies with which you cover your crimes

    For you, a lover of the Wehrmacht, you must specifically open Buchenwald, at least the stench will go into the pipe.
  • Andrey Yagodkin Offline
    Andrey Yagodkin (Andrey Yagodkin) 25 November 2019 19: 46
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    Vlasov is an enemy, a traitor to Russia. The Czechs want to put a monument to Vlasov, let them put it. The Czech Republic lost the Sudetenland from the Germans, but the Poles chopped off the Tesin region. They put their tongue in ... they worked in factories throughout the war, they released tanks and guns to the Germans for rations. Vlasovites were fed with fear. But their president Benes, the th ... before Stalin, turned.
  • Mihhail ruloff Offline
    Mihhail ruloff (Mihhail) April 28 2020 17: 20
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    The Czechs are doing it right: all communist monuments must be demolished. There is nothing to admire these symbols of the cannibalistic regime. And there is nothing to look back at the fascist laughter-power. In general, a separate question: what does modern Russia have to do with that victory? Purely nominal, since she has nothing more to be proud of in modern history. Therefore, they appropriated this victory for themselves.