Gorbachev answered Putin's words about the reasons for the collapse of the USSR


On November 20, 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin during a plenary meeting of the Russia Calling! Forum called the cause of the collapse of the USSR. According to the head of state, the main reason was ineffective economic policyconducted in the USSR, which led to the actual collapse in the social sphere. On November 21, 2019, the former first and only president of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev answered Putin's words.


According to Gorbachev, the collapse of the USSR was based on relations between the Union republics, not the economic reasons that Putin spoke about. He clarified that at that time the improvement required precisely the relationship between them - the improvement of relations within the USSR.

It should be noted that before this Gorbachev wrote about the reasons for the collapse of the USSR in his new book “What is at stake: the future of global peace”. In it, he said that the integrity of the USSR could be maintained and transferred responsibility for the collapse of a huge country to the leadership of the RSFSR, headed by Boris Yeltsin.


It was necessary to democratize and reform relations. This has not been done. Therefore, I don’t know what will happen next.

- said Gorbachev.

Gorbachev believes that the Union republics had their own state understanding, therefore, it was necessary to reckon with the current situation, but did not always succeed. After which Gorbachev suggested reading the achievements of the commission, which he headed, which said, "what should be the new Union."

Gorbachev is sure that all the republics that were part of the USSR not only can, but must have a dialogue. After all, they have a common history and they once defended it together.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 21 November 2019 13: 09
    +3
    The USSR collapsed Judush Gorbachev for the Nobel Prize, and brought him to power on the corpses of people like the head of the BSSR Masherov, the Yankee sold by the head of the KGB of the USSR Andropov.
    1. gunS Offline gunS
      gunS (gunS) 23 November 2019 13: 19
      -3
      Such a pocket trifle as the Nobel Prize, the Secretary General of the USSR could wipe ... every day until the end of his life.
      Therefore, it was not at all a Nobel Prize.
  2. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 21 November 2019 15: 47
    +6
    This ... will still explain to us who owes what. They should have shot him for a long time.
  3. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 November 2019 16: 12
    +1
    The collapse of the USSR was adopted at the highest level. For me it is unique! The collapse conditions themselves are not being formed all over the country at the same time; they must be created and maintained in order to achieve the final result. The fact that the actions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Army, the KGB, and the Central Committee of the party of that time have not yet been evaluated, says that many leaders are involved in betrayal or criminal negligence. For a long time we will not know the names of all the traitors!
    1. gunS Offline gunS
      gunS (gunS) 23 November 2019 13: 24
      -2
      The collapse of the USSR was adopted at the highest level. For me it is unique!

      Yeah. The owners of the USSR, and the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU owned the USSR (with all the giblets) as personal property, suddenly decided to deprive themselves of property.
      You just don’t plan to burn your apartment / house for fun?
      I think no.
      So they did not plan.

      The collapse conditions themselves are not being formed all over the country at the same time; they must be created and maintained in order to achieve the final result.

      This is called "maturation of premises". Here the USSR, with its, in some places stupid, and in some places and criminal existence, the maturation of these prerequisites and ensured.

      Quote: steel maker
      For a long time we will not know the names of all the traitors!

      Start the list with yourself. How did you defend the existence of the USSR in December 1991?
      And then, you see, a smart one was found, he was going to search for enemies.
  4. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 21 November 2019 17: 15
    +3
    According to the head of state, the main reason was the ineffective economic policy pursued in the USSR, which led to the actual collapse in the social sphere.

    And it's okay that the collapse began after three or four years of systematic dismantling of the planned economy, and from the inside, by imposing sticks in the wheels - the fight against drunkenness, an attempt to "plan" the planned economy, an attempt to create a system of cost accounting and self-sufficiency, an attempt to give enterprises the right to make payments in SLE - and all this for an economy, SHARPENED for centralization ...
    It's like throwing different pieces of iron on the way of a running train.
    Let this head of state not mock - the USSR was destroyed from the inside, by phased dismantling of the economy (and everything rests on it), and a buildup of popular discontent against this background.

    And the "hunchback", whom we had the displeasure to contemplate on such a large scale, was "flarer number 1". Although not the only one, he knew very well what the country was leading to.

    But here is the question for the current head of state - how long will this "bad man" continue to shit, even when he is at large? In another country, such a "shot" would have been put behind bars long ago, but in Russia he lives quietly, and once a week he drinks beer with Venediktov. On the advice of doctors ...
    1. gunS Offline gunS
      gunS (gunS) 23 November 2019 14: 05
      -2
      Quote: UpperMost
      But nothing that the collapse began after three or four years of planned dismantling of the planned economy ...

      The collapse began after the replacement of "Soviet power" (it was after "War Communism") by "socialism".
      If the "Soviet power" of the "old Bolsheviks" based on the feudal mode of production could still somehow feed the USSR, then the "socialism" of Dzhugashvili (and his gang of "Bolshevik renovationists"), based on the slave-owning mode of production, was simply uncompetitive in the world. And, moreover, it did not provide even simple reproduction.
      Khrushchev was able to extend the agony of the USSR until 1991, by adopting the 1960-year East Development Program in 20. Siberia. This program, or rather the oil and gas that came from the exhaust, feed Russia to this day.
      But there was little oil and gas, and there were a lot of people in the USSR. There wasn’t enough for all the carriages.
      Then it was decided (not by Gorbachev, of course, and not by members of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee) to cut off from oil and gas a PART of the population of the USSR. Through the collapse of the USSR. Those. to leave behind (under themselves) part of the country and the population, abandoning the "ballast".
      This whole plan worked brilliantly to zero. And the Russians actually healed then in a way that they had never lived in the entire history of the USSR and even RI.
      Now the standard of living of Russians, in comparison with zero, has worsened a little. But still, it is significantly higher than it was during the USSR in any years of its existence.
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 November 2019 09: 50
    +1
    A figley to them to worry?
    The Kremlin pays them all good grandmas for maintenance - Gorbachev, Chubais, Sobchak .... because THEIR...
    One Gorbi Pollymon only has an official pension ....

    They appreciate who brought the current Kremlin to power ...
  6. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 22 November 2019 16: 46
    0
    Let in hell make excuses.
  7. gunS Offline gunS
    gunS (gunS) 23 November 2019 13: 13
    -3
    What is sick and unnatural from birth (and the USSR was just such a malignant formation on the body of planet Earth) sooner or later dies. Therefore, one must not be surprised at the end of the USSR; one must be surprised at its CREATION. And the way this stinking cesspool managed to exist for as long as 70 years.
    As for Gorbachev, he saved the USSR as best he could. It could be bad. Because, like everyone else in the USSR, he was poorly educated (he was one of the victims of "the best education in the world"). And he did not know the basic foundations of social science and political economy. And there was no one to tell him, in the USSR no one knew these disciplines. As well as many other things.
  8. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 26 November 2019 23: 42
    -1
    Quote: gunS
    Now the standard of living of Russians, in comparison with zero, has worsened a little

    Because the sanctions imposed. So, the Russian Federation depends on them, and on the West in general. And from the US dollar in general.

    So, the President’s tales about the fact that

    You can’t take Russia with sanctions.

    - just TIRES. From the crypt.
  9. Upmost Offline Upmost
    Upmost (Innocent) 26 November 2019 23: 45
    0
    Quote: gunS
    But still, it is significantly higher than it was during the USSR during any years of its existence.

    Because in the XNUMXs, the Russian Federation sagged under the West in everything (closed military bases, disposed of "Molodets", etc.), not even daring to utter a word. Plus, there was such a petrodollar conjuncture.
    The then standard of living in the Russian Federation was not the result of the development of the real sector of the economy.
    It was the result of currying favor with "partners". As soon as they stopped fawning, the well-fed life began to end a little.

    Something like that.