Missiles of the “wrong system”: why the constant mess reigns in Roscosmos


In recent years, the Russian space industry is not a cause for pride, but is a source of constant scandalous stories. What is the reason for the mess going on there: in incompetent leadership, or is it just that he has the “wrong system”?


If you look from the side, one gets the impression that Roscosmos is grabbing for various projects, assimilating money for them, after which it switches to new "projects", without really completing anything in time.

Now it’s even embarrassing to remember the Clipper spacecraft, which was supposed to replace the aging Soyuz. The reusable device was intended for six people on board: two crew members and four passengers, which could serve as space tourists. In theory, the Clipper could fly for nine years already, since the expected term of the project was in 2010. But it did not work out.


Clipper Spaceship


The unrealized project was replaced by a more modern “Federation”. With a capacity of six crew members, this ship was more durable and light, thanks to modern composite materials. Our “Federation” could well not only deal with the transport to the CCM, but also visit the moon. To do this, it was supposed to create two versions of it. However, it turned out differently. The “female” name was taken from the spacecraft, renaming it “Eagle”. And then interesting fortels went completely.


Spaceship Federation

The state-owned corporation Roscosmos intends to devote competence to create a reusable private company ship with an authorized capital of 400 thousand rubles. This structure is called "International Transport Space Systems" (MTKS). The company proudly declares:

The reusable cargo ship will be created in close cooperation with the enterprises of the state corporations Roscosmos, Rosatom and Rostec.


The ship will receive the name "Argo". This is presented to the layman as “our answer to Mask”, the very “effective private owners” who work better than the state. However, the General Director of MTKS is Dmitry Kakhno, the head of one of the subsidiaries of Roskosmos. Somehow on private initiative is not very drawn. Given that the company plans to earn half a billion dollars over the operation of Argo over the next ten years, it seems that the very smart top managers of the state corporation decided to allocate and "privatize" a project developed with budget money with all technology.

There are questions about launch vehicles. Recently we told about the problems faced by the Angara rocket family. Structurally advanced and environmentally friendly, they practically do not fly. Due to the lack of statistics of successful flights, large foreign customers do not risk contacting Angara. It turns out a vicious circle, exacerbated by the fact that the production of "Protons" has already been suspended. In order to "optimize costs" the production of launch vehicles was moved to Omsk. It would seem that the right decision, but will all experienced specialists gladly agree to change Moscow to a distant province? Isn’t this, in particular, connected with constant breakdowns of deadlines at the Omsk subdivision?


Not only terms are burning, but also caps on the heads of embezzlers. The Vostochny Cosmodrome, from where the Angara was supposed to fly, was already synonymous with "cuts" and "theft." Over 140 criminal cases have been opened, the theft of more than 10 billion budget funds has been officially confirmed. On the military Plesetsk, a peaceful rocket has long been crowded, and when it "moves", it is not clear.
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  1. Oleg Kalugin Offline
    Oleg Kalugin (Oleg Kalugin) 8 November 2019 12: 41
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    Questions, questions, but no answers ... Although I'm lying, there is one - CAPITALISM!
    Under the Soviets, bribe takers flourished, so - a trifle, at the household level, were higher, but this is from the category of extraordinary. When it surfaced, the whole country was "on the ears", officials flew their heads right up to Kolyma.
    And under capitalism, as the classic Stalin said, corruption is an integral part of capitalism.
    Well, plus the lack of such a system as the NKVD.
    And where does the NKVD or the oprichnina come from when the state itself, in the person of the highest authority, is not interested?
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 17: 23
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      But what, in other countries is capitalism too (and is it capitalism with us?), And the NKVD is also gone, no one’s heads fly, and things seem to be done? Yes, how successful.
      1. Oleg Kalugin Offline
        Oleg Kalugin (Oleg Kalugin) 9 November 2019 17: 01
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        What are you talking about? Do we have capitalism? Read the definitions and you will not ask such questions. What about others, I will say this:
        1. I do not care, like others, I look in my eye.
        2. But one can say about others - Capitalism and corruption are inseparable, an example is the development of the US military budget.
        Is it enough or to tell you how things are done there?
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 November 2019 17: 25
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          What is our capitalism? What is, does not lend itself to generally accepted classification. Maybe some elements can be found in the past.
      2. vvnab Offline
        vvnab (Vitali) 10 November 2019 02: 30
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        ... in other countries, too, capitalism ... and things seem to be done? Yes, how successful.

        Well, tell us about the successes of Mexico, Brazil or Nigeria (capitalist countries comparable with Russia in terms of population).
        The modern capitalist system is global. It is built in the form of a pyramid. Russia is far from the top of this pyramid, but occupies a place somewhere in the center with a tendency to slide down. We have no prospects to take the place of the current leaders within the framework of this system, under any circumstances.
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 November 2019 10: 01
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          And with what? Do not make me laugh. And about: "Mexico, Brazil or Nigeria" - where it seems to be capitalism, but really there is no democracy, nothing good either. By the way, about the economy of Brazil, do not, 8th place in the world.
          1. vvnab Offline
            vvnab (Vitali) 10 November 2019 11: 33
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            And with what?

            Under no circumstances.

            By the way, about the economy of Brazil, do not, 8th place in the world.

            So we have not the last. The population in Brazil is larger. In terms of GDP per capita, we are even ahead of them (for now).
            1. Arkharov Offline
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 November 2019 11: 52
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              So we have not the last. The population in Brazil is larger. In terms of GDP per capita, we are even ahead of them (for now).

              - Yes, a little now for joy ...
      3. Ehanatone Offline
        Ehanatone 11 November 2019 03: 50
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        ... nobody’s heads fly, but things seem to be done? Yes, how successful.

        Yes!
        Already $ 124 billionaire! ... wassat
  2. boriz Offline
    boriz (boriz) 8 November 2019 12: 56
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    International transport space systems.

    It is clear that under this brand theft is planned, in favor of the West, of those secrets that for some reason were not stolen in the 90s. Well, new ones. Why good disappear ...
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  4. DimerVladimer Offline
    DimerVladimer (Dmitry Vladimirovich) 8 November 2019 14: 41
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    They could not create a composite case for the Federation, they redesigned it into the traditional one from light alloys - the Eagle, and it was closed.
    What do you want if a philologist manages space - a lot of talk, a little competence.
    1. Ehanatone Offline
      Ehanatone 11 November 2019 03: 55
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      What do you want if a philologist manages space - a lot of talk, a little competence.

      I would put more +++, but it seems to me that it’s violet to you, but Arlu will not help it anyway! ...
  5. 123 Online
    123 (123) 8 November 2019 15: 09
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    I pay tribute to the persistence of the author. hi Again, everything has decayed in us, not like in others.

    1. Ehanatone Offline
      Ehanatone 11 November 2019 03: 58
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      I pay tribute to the persistence of the author. Again, everything has decayed in us, not like in others.

      Well, Musk is the same cut, or PR agency, and everything was done at NASA.
      1. 123 Online
        123 (123) 11 November 2019 07: 59
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        Well, MASK, this is the same cut, or PR agency, but everything was done at NASA

        It may even be that professional whiners just got it.
  6. Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) 8 November 2019 15: 33
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    And here you need to look at everything wider or wider, because this mess is with us all over the country, and in all spheres and industries, starting with the miserable life of the whole people, and ending with the falling planes. Now only the VMN can save the country from this outrage, the Cheka, and SMERSH.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 17: 26
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      There is no other way? Such "cannibalism" has already passed, and so what? Strongly saved?
      1. Valentine Offline
        Valentine (Valentin) 10 November 2019 11: 02
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        And you look at China, 50 years ago it was a country of agricultural cartels and artisans, and now .... And there, regardless of ranks and money, they chopped both hands and heads flew ... Remember them Tiananmen, and our Bolotnaya - there is a difference? They rolled out all their local liberal trash in tanks, and now they have almost the first economy in the world, and we only indulge our thieves and crooks.
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 November 2019 11: 20
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          Remember them Tiananmen, and our Swamp - is there a difference? They rolled out all their local liberal trash in tanks, and now they have almost the first economy in the world, and we only indulge our thieves and crooks.
          - and what would the economy have run down with us? Who didn’t give? And we have the last 20 years in the power of the liberals?

          And there is no Chinese, etc. “special way”, except for the main path of human development: free market and competition, elective democracy, alternate and responsible government. All other branches sooner or later lead to a dead end. Today, only natural wealth, repressive and propaganda apparatus allows the rulers of some countries to try to locally reduce entropy - temporarily go against history, violating the laws of the economy and human development.
          1. Ehanatone Offline
            Ehanatone 11 November 2019 04: 06
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            ... temporarily go against history, breaking the laws of economics and human development.

            I would put you another 10 - because you are confusing the laws of history and liberal nonsense.
        2. Ehanatone Offline
          Ehanatone 11 November 2019 04: 03
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          ... now they have almost the first economy in the world, and we only indulge our thieves and crooks ...

          They invested money in them ... And technology .. And they try to pump out of us.
    2. Ehanatone Offline
      Ehanatone 11 November 2019 04: 00
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      Now only the VMN can save the country from this outrage, the Cheka, and SMERSH.

      What is VMN? ...
      1. Valentine Offline
        Valentine (Valentin) 14 November 2019 11: 52
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        The supreme measure of punishment of socialist legality in the USSR is execution, or article 58, 10 years without the right to correspondence.
  7. camo ridges Offline
    camo ridges (Michael) 9 November 2019 02: 37
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    More than once there was an opinion that Rogozin is simply a charismatic phrase-maker who is not capable of serious organizational work in Roscosmos, because he does not have the slightest idea about the essence of the space industry. But God really ordered the leader to fight against theft and sloppiness, and he repeatedly declared his intransigence to this evil. However, the results are vague, and as far as the industry’s activities are concerned, he never found, apparently, serious specialists on whom he could rely. As a result, we have what we have - confusion, squabbles, mountains of empty promises and a minimum of useful things to be proud of ...
    1. Ehanatone Offline
      Ehanatone 11 November 2019 04: 09
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      ... confusion, squabbles, mountains of empty promises and a minimum of useful things to be proud of.

      And layoffs of specialists!
  8. orlauskas.v Offline
    orlauskas.v (Valdemaras Orlauskas) 10 November 2019 14: 25
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    As I understand it, official investigations have not yet begun, since they have filed a complaint with the Internet - just that, there will be at least some excuse.
    It is strange that the secret services did not investigate, it seems that the betrayals went too far.
  9. OXOTHuK Sakha Offline
    OXOTHuK Sakha (Blockchain Blockchainov) 13 November 2019 12: 33
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    Hi!
    The mess begins in the minds, then in practice ...
  10. Sergey-54 Offline
    Sergey-54 (Sergei) 19 November 2019 13: 42
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    Because Russia is governed by God himself, otherwise it is not clear how it exists.
    1. OXOTHuK Sakha Offline
      OXOTHuK Sakha (Blockchain Blockchainov) 21 November 2019 14: 54
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      True, God can punish Russia as an invasion of the "Mongols."
      God punishes those He loves.
  11. OXOTHuK Sakha Offline
    OXOTHuK Sakha (Blockchain Blockchainov) 21 November 2019 14: 53
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    Under Putin, everything falls apart ...
  12. T. Henks Offline
    T. Henks (Igor) 5 January 2020 17: 56
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    Nothing, nothing! That will soon cancel the remnants of Soviet laws and regulations (somewhere around 1500)! And the pan will send to each one thousand chervonets. Here we go for a walk!