In Russia, they found a way to disable all US aircraft carriers at once

Recently, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Missile and Artillery Sciences (RARAN), Konstantin Sivkov, рассказал public that the new American "Pershing" (medium-range missile) could deprive Russia of the possibility of retaliation. And so, a well-known Russian military expert found a way how to cause irreparable damage immediately to the entire US carrier fleet.




So, according to the expert, it is possible to reliably disable an American carrier group by striking a shipyard in Newport News (Virginia). Today, it is the only shipyard in the United States capable of building and repairing aircraft carriers. The expert wrote about this in "Military Industrial Courier".

Sivkov notes that at this shipyard there are three slipways that can take such large ships. He specified that the shipyard has three slipways, two are used to repair ships, and one is used for construction.

The expert emphasized that in the event of a military conflict, “cruise missiles in conventional equipment can be hit at a single shipyard.” However, he did not specify how many non-nuclear munitions may be needed for the long-term incapacitation of a giant shipyard.

In turn, we want to remind you that in a relatively short period of World War II, 25 aircraft carriers were built in the United States. Of course, they cannot be compared with modern atomic giants. However, American industry also did not stand still and throughout the post-war years produced aircraft carriers and aircraft carriers.

In addition, the expert forgot to mention the large Huntington Ingalls Industries shipyard in Pascagula, Mississippi. They produce universal landing ships (helicopter carriers) such as Ameris (displacement of 46 thousand tons). Moreover, US allies also build aircraft carriers and large aircraft carriers: the UK, France, Spain, Italy, Japan, South Korea.

It should be added that in October 2019, the newest nuclear aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (“Gerald R. Ford”) of the US Navy went to sea for another test. At the same time, in January 2019, Sivkov told the public that the Russian Navy does not have ships capable of providing reliable fire support (cover) to the coastal flank of the land group or landing force during landing, as well as to escort the latter in operational depth.
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  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 November 2019 09: 35
    -5
    Yes, Sivkov from time to time gives something like that. And I think it’s better to turn off the gas to them. Let them freeze.
    1. pafegosoff Offline pafegosoff
      pafegosoff (Arkhip Pafegosov) 7 November 2019 10: 25
      +4
      Americans have nowhere to go.
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 November 2019 12: 06
        -1
        All the same, turn off the water, light, Internet. Where are the main shutdown specialists?
        1. pafegosoff Offline pafegosoff
          pafegosoff (Arkhip Pafegosov) 7 November 2019 12: 09
          +1
          In the Strategic Missile Forces.
          "And yet ... Where is his button?"
        2. Sake Offline Sake
          Sake (Sake) 7 November 2019 18: 48
          -8
          They drowned in Losharik ...
          1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
            Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 November 2019 19: 29
            0
            ... would say something about it, but banned ...
    2. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 7 November 2019 13: 42
      +1
      Quote: Arkharov
      And I think it’s better to turn off the gas to them. Let them freeze.

      It is right! This is ours!

  2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
    Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 November 2019 10: 38
    +4
    ... and isn’t it easier just not to supply them with rocket engines, without which it will not be possible to launch new guidance system satellites into orbit? And without these systems, nothing simply will not fly anywhere and will not float, no matter how much this is built.
    What’s the shipyard here? request Or does Mr. Sivkov think that in the event of a global conflict, the US will first rush to build new aircraft carriers and repair old ones? And the conflict itself, thus, will last for years, such as the Second World War ??? ...
    1. Sake Offline Sake
      Sake (Sake) 7 November 2019 18: 50
      -4
      There is no need for dviguns, for Energomash it is the only way to make money. In case of "circumcision" E. Musk will complete the entire program and for less money.
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 November 2019 19: 10
        +4
        Not everyone understands this, and these RD-180s, bought by the Americans, mainly purely for economic reasons, are for some directly the subject of unthinkable pride and deification. Although it’s possible the engines are quite decent, but this doesn’t mean that the Americans, if necessary, cannot do something similar, or better. It’s just more profitable to buy. It’s just business for them, and nothing personal.
      2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
        Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 November 2019 19: 28
        +6
        ... if someone could have been cheaper and with the same performance, then Americans would have bought there for a long time ... They themselves can make similar engines, but much more expensive.
        And the enterprises of Roscosmos would have to learn how to live without money from a potential adversary, otherwise the price will be worthless ...
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 November 2019 19: 48
          0
          In general, I’m talking about this and I say that the reasons are economic and it’s just a reasonable policy on their part. Why should they now develop and produce the last century, in the literal and figurative sense. Rather, it will be more expensive, especially since the use is temporary, and you need to deal with and invest in the future. No matter how hard Zadornov tried to mock it there, there aren’t a lot of fools. Otherwise, such a country would not have been built.
          1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
            Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 November 2019 20: 50
            +5
            I agree on the motors.
            But in order to successfully build a country, you just don't need a lot of smart people, the main thing is that the leaders are smart and active and know how to "build" everyone else in it. In Russia (and the USSR), there are more than enough fools, and there are, and even the "Field of Miracles" is present in it, which speaks volumes. laughing ... but nothing, they also built a great country.
            1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 November 2019 23: 39
              +1
              Of course, you have interesting conclusions about fools and a great country, it seems to me that the USSR was very selectively “great”, here we can just assume that each “mental category” in the country was doing “its own thing”, so everything is so and it happened. Well, and, accordingly, ended.
              1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                Pishenkov (Alexey) 8 November 2019 01: 07
                +2
                The USSR was indeed a Great country and a Superpower, both in size and in all other parameters. I personally do not understand what a "selectively great country" is - either great or not. But there are problems and shortcomings, they have been and will be everywhere and always, their own and different, depending on the time, structure, location, state system, population, etc. In Britain, for example, when it was still the Great British Empire, there were its own problems, in Rome, its own, in the Third Reich, its own, and in the USSR and the USA, too, when they remained as two really great powers in the world, there were shortcomings and dissatisfied people inside and outside. But this does not diminish their greatness in any way.
                And each mental category in the country is really doing its job. That is, it must be so that everything works fine. But when suddenly this rule is violated - here the problems begin. And we have enough such examples in history, from tsarist times, through revolutions to the collapse of the Union. These same fools ... begin to think of themselves as great leaders and reformers - that's it, cover ... that's what happened with the USSR. After this, only one Great Country remained for the time being - the USA.
                But since they are fools ... for that and fools ... ki, thank God, they cannot manage and stay at the top for a particularly long time, and they give way to those who are smarter. Therefore, Russia is now again gradually creeping out to the position of the Great Power, which at the moment in the world, thus, now three will draw - the Chinese have also fussed. And since amorous drinking (thinking) for three is a thing of the past, along with the USSR and the price of a bottle of vodka at 3 rubles, laughing then in all the other triangles of relationships the third, as you know, is usually superfluous ... and now let's see who it turns out to be this time ... wink
                1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 09: 46
                  -2
                  What are you telling me about greatness? Yes, territories, yes, worthy victories (though first through defeats), yes, Gagarin. But in countries where everything is not built on the interests of each individual person, as an integral part of society, in which the systematic sacrifice of freedom for the sake of some potential benefits, including "collectivization", "industrialization", "stability", etc., usually does not lead a society to anything good. As a rule, this is how various forms of totalitarian and authoritarian regimes are built, in which, ultimately, there is neither stability, nor security, nor freedom.
                  The same Benjamin Franklin, flaunting on very beloved pieces of paper all over the world, once said:

                  A person who sacrifices freedom for security does not deserve freedom or security.

                  Everything is well known: to fence everything around, saturate everything with an ideology that no one needs and put the rest of the people in the world of coupons and shortages. There are “socialist” Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, and other special reserves. And what, the same rake, taking into account national characteristics. Do you want to live there?
                  And in general, what do you see the greatness of the country in the modern world?
                  1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                    Pishenkov (Alexey) 8 November 2019 12: 35
                    +2
                    I most often agree with you, but now, frankly, I was even surprised at such an answer. And I must say, I was unpleasantly surprised.
                    The Soviet Union began and ended in the twentieth century. And in this century there simply WAS NOT A MORE GREAT COUNTRY. According to the largest number of indicators in the world, we were the first - with the largest territory in the world, the most diverse landscape and climate, with the most ethnically and culturally diverse population, the greatest natural wealth, with the highest achievements in absolutely everything - from almost all major international species sports to space exploration, with the best education in the world and advanced medicine, which were available to the vast majority of the population (which was not anywhere else), with the most powerful army in the world, which won oh terrible war in human history, and have never and nowhere did not lose a single war. What is not enough for the greatness of the country?
                    Although to list all the highest achievements of the USSR in the world, I think, to infinity ... We, in the end, were the first in the world to try and create in practice a radically new model of the state ... Yes, not everything was smooth, not everything is correct, but where is everything without errors and excesses? Where are the grandiose achievements without blood, sweat and tears of loss? Where are great victories without defeat? There is nothing like that! This is utopia, fairy tales or cheap movies! It is painted there, but in real life this is not!
                    Where did you see a country where "everything is built on the interests of each individual person, as an integral part of society"? Name one, where is it really so? I was born and raised in the USSR, and spent about half of my conscious life in the so-called West, and in very different places, and not at all as a tourist, or even an embassy employee, etc., I was “inside”, then there is something to compare with, and I declare quite responsibly: there are no such countries, does not exist in nature! And here is Franklin’s statement? What is freedom? Another man, who also "showed off on paper," said that "freedom is a conscious necessity" - right? It seems so. In general, after all this, most of these pulled out of the original context and isolated, clever sayings can be thrust into one well-known place, since almost anything can be brought under them at different times, in different places and with radically different meanings.
                    As for “stability, security and freedom,” I’ll add confidence in the future, I haven’t seen it in a larger volume anywhere except the USSR and the social countries of Europe. You will probably be surprised, but it is. Was traveling abroad restricted? It was. So what? On the sea and inland, and so anyone could go, as well as the mountains, etc. In the United States, less than 5% of the population have a passport in general, and nothing, they live somehow ... And as soon as we were allowed to leave, these same Westerners who criticized the Union all the way for the impossibility of “free movement”, then it’s all yourself and closed with a visa system ... And where is this their vaunted freedom? Something like speaking and writing was impossible - yes it is possible, whoever wanted to, he said and wrote. And who wanted to run up, he ran up - why not freedom? And in the “civilized world” now you can even “sit down” for what you call a gypsy a gypsy, and a black man a black man, although they themselves call them that. In a beautiful and idyllic Scandinavia, it’s not even possible to force your own child to do homework or do the dishes — they can take it away. I do not say to put in a corner or give on the pope. For this, they will also be imprisoned. Do you like that kind of freedom? Or do you think that in the West you can criticize the existing regime with impunity? No way, you will be punished too. In a different way than in the USSR, but they will certainly be punished. All in. Unfortunately, I haven’t been to Korea and Cuba yet, but since we are talking about the USSR, I don’t see any reason to drag them here, and these are not great countries, you cannot compare. Although it is possible that the people living there are actually happy, and even themselves do not know about it. People always need exactly what they don’t have. I personally realized how well we lived in the USSR, only when he died ...
                    Well, tired of painting something already ... it got me, see, very much ...
                    Yes, and the greatness of the country is probably just that it is great and progressive not in just one thing, but in most of the most diverse ways. And also only the Great Country can change its actions all over the world at once, and not just its separate parts, and only the Great Country can really oppose itself not only to the other Superpower, but even to the rest of the world, if necessary. God forbid, of course ... Because today, each of these three Great Powers simply can take and destroy this whole world, even alone.
                    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 13: 57
                      -1
                      You have written a lot, I am even uncomfortable that I prompted you to such literary feats. The only and most important thing that I want to answer you is that other countries have achieved similar, and often no less, achievements without in such quantity: "... blood, sweat and tears of loss." I'm not talking about the last war, but basically about many other "achievements", which at times were rather dubious and were achieved at an unreasonably high price.
                      About:

                      As for “stability, security and freedom”, I will add confidence in the future, I have not seen it in a larger volume anywhere except the USSR and the social countries of Europe.

                      And how was it justified? Where is the future? Perhaps this is talking about something?
                      But this would not be desirable at all:

                      In the end, we were the first in the world to try and create in practice a radically new model of the state ...

                      So, regarding the Union, I am afraid that most of us will not converge. The original underlying idea itself, in my opinion, was vicious and unviable, hence everything else.
                      1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 8 November 2019 14: 17
                        0
                        ... well, I had more "literary feats", so you shouldn't worry about me. laughing

                        other countries achieved similar, and often no less, achievements without in such quantity: "... blood, sweat and tears of loss

                        - try to recall real examples. wink
                        About the phrase

                        As for “stability, security and freedom”, I’ll add confidence in the future, I haven’t seen it in a larger volume anywhere except the USSR and the social countries of Europe

                        - if you read carefully, I’m saying exactly my opinion. And indeed it is. The country, due to various circumstances, fell apart, it’s true, but I personally had these feelings in it. Now I don’t have them, but the worst thing is that my children who live, in many respects, still do not have them in a fairly stable and comfortable situation.
                        And about the state model - it works in China, I would say that it is successful. I think, because we learned to use this system correctly. In Russia, for various reasons, it did not work out. And you need to be able to drive a good car too. About whether it is good or bad, it is not for us to decide - this is history. There is as it is. You can’t change it already, but you need to learn from it so as not to repeat mistakes ... But we were the first in this. And they also survived. Although I personally also definitely do not support various cardinal decisions, such as revolutions, etc.
                      2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 14: 38
                        -2
                        There are many examples, most developed democracies. Well, what is there in China? In my opinion, a screen to preserve the power of a certain group of people.
                      3. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 8 November 2019 14: 52
                        0
                        ... other countries achieved similar, and often no less, achievements without in such quantity: "... blood, sweat and tears of loss."

                        - you said that.

                        There are many examples.

                        - and this is you ... But all this is demagogy.
                        And where are they, examples of these great and bloodless achievements? From space, sports, maybe from the development of new territories? Or fighting? request
                        In China, of course, this system is adapted to local conditions and the type of people who are very different from us, but it generally works. Does power always and everywhere belong to only a small group, or do you also have alternative examples? laughing
                        And in general, in world history, the most successful and rapidly developing have always been and are precisely authoritarian systems. Or do you have disproving evidence on this subject? wink
                      4. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 16: 50
                        -3
                        Of course, there are, for example: the British Empire, the North American United States. The most striking examples of successful development without any authoritarian systems there. You can still have more than a dozen. Naturally, you should consider a couple of recent centuries. And I personally do not need economic (by the way, very controversial) successes at the cost of a lot of blood and labor feats, instead of civilized and progressive development.
                      5. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 8 November 2019 17: 21
                        +1
                        We, if I’m not mistaken, or rather you, in this case, spoke not about countries, but about their achievements (see above). And here you, again, have not provided examples.
                        But even if we talk about it - both of these states, yes, really great, were completely built on blood, and on what blood! The USSR never dreamed of! The British Empire, which, by the way, also collapsed a long time ago, was actually a monarchy, and when it was Great, it was a tough and real monarchy, which shed blood in rivers both at home and in all its colonies, one of which were the future USA, and she was also engaged in piracy and fought all over the world with everyone in a row, forget? ... This is not authoritarianism, in your opinion? Soft rule? And in the United States, which has not yet collapsed as a superpower, the methods of government are more than authoritarian, and power there really belongs to a small group of individuals - a real financial oligarchy, not like ours. And this oligarchy is in power all the time, regardless of which party is currently represented in the White House or in Parliament, they are all subordinate to it in one way or another. And the United States is also trying to extend its authoritarian policy to the whole world. By force and blood, including, as well as tough economic pressure. What, isn't it? And inside this most developed democracy, in a similar case, as it took place on Bolotnaya or before the elections to the Moscow City Duma, that is, during unauthorized rallies with attacks on the police, the siloviki would heal half of the protesters to hell, put a couple of people, and those who did not have time to run away, to be shoved into the "monkey houses" ... I am even surprised lately at the softness of Russian law enforcement agencies, in Europe they are even tougher.
                        Yes, and on the development and its speed, you are also wrong: how quickly did the authoritarian state of the USSR "rise" after the revolution and became a Superpower? How many years have the Chinese managed to become the world's first economy from the backwaters of the world? The Third Reich rose from the ruins of Germany after the First World War in what period? Do you remember? And now look at how long it took to form and "rise" even the same USA or Britain (your examples) - for centuries ...
                        You can argue about the advantages of various government systems, but it’s useless to argue about the effectiveness of ... so ...
                        hi
                        Have a good weekend. Until Monday, I’ll go to the country and I won’t look at the computer smile
                2. Sake Offline Sake
                  Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 15: 19
                  -3
                  The same industrialization in the USA and in Germany, for example, was carried out with the benefit of the peoples of these countries, i.e. these were people's construction sites, where people went to work and to earn money. Even in tsarist Russia during the construction of the Transsib there was no forced labor, the people voluntarily went there to work! Now let's compare the so-called. "Industrialization" in the USSR .... which was carried out on the bones of the people! If in the USA and Germany the peasants received complete autonomy or independence that could feed these peoples, then in the USSR they did exactly the opposite. The peasants were turned into slaves and forced to work without wages in money, but for the sticks, where at the end of the year they still owed their "native" state, but where the money came from, they did not see them !! Never in the history of mankind did a plowman, a sower and a reaper starve as in the collective farm paradise in the USSR, only with the arrival of Khrushchev did it become satisfying to live in the village!
                3. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 9 November 2019 10: 53
                  +3
                  ... only with the advent of Khrushchev in the village it became satisfying to live.

                  Khrushchev was the most mediocre and stupid leader (apart from Gorbachev). Under Stalin, grain was exported; under Khrushchev, they began to buy it in Canada. All that this misunderstanding could be, to knock a shoe on the podium or give Crimea. I don't even want to comment on the rest of the nonsense, especially about the industrialization in the United States, when during the "Great Depression" people, so as not to die of hunger, worked at construction sites for rations.
                4. Sake Offline Sake
                  Sake (Sake) 9 November 2019 11: 01
                  -1
                  I won’t argue about his mental abilities, but with his coming to power (from 55), it became better in Kazakhstan, they could keep livestock and sell meat, they received so much grain that there was no place in the barn (compare planting for spikelets under Stalin ...), in the Orenburg region. and in Bashkiria, Kazakh flour was snapped up, and then also in 56 there was an unprecedented harvest, I already remember that. In 63, my father bought a new Moskvich-403 ...
                5. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 9 November 2019 11: 13
                  +1
                  ... but with his coming to power (from 55), it became better in Kazakhstan, they could keep livestock and sell meat, they received so much grain that there was no place in the barn ....... In 63, my father bought a new one Moskvich-403 ...

                  Was that the end of the pleasant memories? Can you tell us further? It was in this very 63rd year that it began ..... They plowed up virgin lands, intensive use of land eventually led to the degradation of a thin fertile soil layer, crop failure, and the death of sown areas. Can you tell us about the "dust storms"?
              2. Sake Offline Sake
                Sake (Sake) 9 November 2019 11: 20
                -4
                Regarding the second half of your delirium ... Under Stalin, grain may have been exported, but at the same time in Ukraine and Kazakhstan millions of people died of hunger! And this is what you call progress ?! They planted for spikelets and potatoes from the field, and this is progress, in your opinion ?! Never in history did the plowman, sower and reaper swell with hunger, as in the collective farm Stalin's paradise! Regarding the "donated" Crimea, this is nonsense of the stupid and for the stupid, in 54 Khrushchev did not yet have full power in the USSR, and nowhere is his signature when transferring Crimea to Ukraine, and this was a decision of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR signed by Chairman Voroshilov K.E. + secretary! At the same time, part of the Chimkent region was transferred from the Uzbek SSR to the Kazakh SSR, the Samarkand region was transferred from the Tad. SSR to the Uzbek SSR, and from the Orenburg region. In the Kazakh SSR and vice versa, lands were transferred in some areas, so there is no need to fool around, the country was like that and the government was not one of the smartest statesmen, as it is today!
                Regarding the "boot", there is no need to throw stones so far, a couple of years ago at the UN Security Council meeting, the representative of the Russian Federation Safronkov spoke on a hairdryer with his colleagues, which is a popular jargon in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, the president and further down the vertical!
              3. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 9 November 2019 12: 22
                +2
                ... regarding the second half of your delirium ... Under Stalin, they may have exported grain, but at the same time in Ukraine and Kazakhstan millions of people died of starvation!

                I am sorry, I did not express myself clearly enough. It meant the post-war period. The whole "genius" of Khrushchev is the purchase of grain for gold. By the way, speaking about famine, you mentioned Ukraine and Kazakhstan. Have you just forgotten the Volga region, or will you also talk about the "Holodomor"? (just clarifying).

                And what do you call progress ?! For spikelets and for potatoes from the field planted, and this is progress, in your opinion ?! Never in history has a plowman, a sower and a reaper swollen from hunger, as in the collective farm of Stalin's paradise!

                I am not saying that under Stalin everything was fine, but I am comparing the results.

                With regard to the "donated" Crimea, this is nonsense of the dumb and for the dumb, in 54 Khrushchev did not yet have full power in the USSR

                I learn so much interesting. laughing But do not tell me who led the country in the period after Stalin and before Khrushchev? smile

                and nowhere is there his signature when transferring Crimea to Ukraine, and this was a decision of the Supreme Council of the USSR with the signature of Chairman Voroshilov K. E. + Secretary!

                An entertaining version, this is what happens, recourse does it mean that they transferred Crimea without asking Khrushchev? Does he not know? request Is this the head of the country? belay So, Stalin almost personally gnawed at the spikelets of the throat, and Khrushchev simply did not know? I believe that not a single verdict "for spikelets" also has Stalin's signature. Maybe he is innocent?

                At the same time, part of the Chimkent region was transferred from the Uzbek SSR to the Kazakh SSR, the Samarkand region was transferred from the Tajik SSR to the Uzbek SSR, and from the Orenburg region. in Kaz.SSR and vice versa, they transferred lands in some areas, so there is no need to fool around, such a country was and the government was not one of the most intelligent statesmen, as it is today too!

                How does this make a difference? Yes, they were notoriously dropouts. Divided as they wanted, one characteristic feature - all the "redrawing" of the borders were not in favor of the RSFSR, not a single exception. If you make a mistake 20 times, then each one is no longer a mistake? It's just that the other programs don't interest me that much. This is for you the decision of "dear" Nikita Sergeevich to disentangle. Why are you comparing the current leadership with Khrushchev? Are they also distributing territories or are they plowing corn fields up to Salekhard?
          2. Ehanatone Offline Ehanatone
            Ehanatone 3 December 2019 00: 07
            +2
            Industrialization "in the USSR .... which was carried out on the bones of the people! If in the United States and Germany the peasants received complete autonomy or independence, which were able to feed these peoples.

            Well, well, what about the Holodomor, and the surrender of brulik in the USA, and what about the forced shipment of capitalism to the USA, didn’t you really hear that ???!
            Or so carefully fool around !! ...
          3. Warrior Offline Warrior
            Warrior 3 January 2020 01: 28
            +2
            Read the Ukrainian "Ukrainian schodenni whist", which were published daily in the USA in 1930 .... by the Ukrainians themselves about the news from Western Ukraine, where there was no Soviet Union at that time - there was written every day for many years about the famine in Western Ukraine, where children and adults were starving, while the Romanian, Hungarian, Czechoslovak and Polish authorities did nothing for these people ...
            And in 1932-1933, there was famine in Bulgaria, and in Romania, and in Poland, and in Czechoslovakia ....
            And in India at that time, the British intentionally starved 100 million Indians by starvation, and the United States at that time starved 8-12 million (no exact statistics) of their own Americans, mostly peasants, whom they expelled from their land, for the sake of large latifundists. ..
            So, we don’t need to hang American-Ukrainian noodles on our ears about the specially organized Holodomor in 1932-1933 in Ukraine, just every 10 years in Russia, like in other countries, there was HUNGER.
            Only now, Stalin's collectivization allowed the peasants to plow and sow significant areas of the fields with tractors, and not as before, with horses, strips of land, which made it possible to collect annually significant harvests of not only wheat, but also other grain crops, and therefore there was no further famine (except for the post-war 1946 of the year)...
  3. Sake Offline Sake
    Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 14: 58
    -6
    As one smart person said -

    The Soviet Union is an experience for others how to live!

    You have listed so many positive things here that I almost dropped a tear. USSR

    ... and in general, never and anywhere did not lose a war.

    - what a delusion, in the year 36 the USSR muddied up the civil war in Spain and lost it, but when leaving, grabbed the entire gold reserve of Spain in 510 tons. Cool, however, "internationalists", they look more like gangsters! An open racketeering against the peace-loving Finnish people turned into a defeat for the Red Army, only the "hot" Finnish guys were overwhelmed in mass! This is how much you need to have the audacity to write a song ... "Take us, Suomi beauty", and they, you know, did not appreciate the act of goodwill of Slavik Voroshilov and Joseph Stalin!
    The initial phase of the Second World War is the complete defeat of the Red Army, the United States and England helped, otherwise they would not have waved it off. The war unleashed by the USSR on the Korean Peninsula, and only the death of Stalin stopped this war. The hybrid wars in Angola, Egypt, Ethiopia and other countries and continents turned out to be a failure for the USSR, all these countries owed a lot of money that the Soviet leadership and the military stole from the peoples of the USSR! And just yesterday, Putin wrote off 160 lard + 20 lard to the African brothers - savages!
    The war unleashed by the USSR in Afghanistan and the shameful defeat that led to the collapse of the USSR is also a shameful page of the USSR! Two wars unleashed by the Russian Federation in the North Caucasus, and both of them have successfully lost, for which the Russian Federation is paying reparations to the mountains now, or just a tribute! Here it is, not a complete, but shameful list of the regime’s thoughtless rule in the recent past and today! There were no and no free resources and time to develop the country and to improve the lives of peoples! Only global issues and problems of the show-offs solve, everything else is not worthy of their precious attention! Soon it will be, like our friend Hitler, when he betrayed that the German people are not worthy of him ?!
    1. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 8 November 2019 20: 11
      +1
      What discoveries are possible, it turns out ..))) It turns out that in Spain, the USSR was muddied up with everything, but ...))))
      No matter how you honor you, well, everything right in the USSR is shameful and there has never been anything good at all.
      Yes, and about writing off lards to Africa, it’s impressive - in your performance, and it doesn’t matter what a completely different person or even a different state gave, and now it’s possible to rip off it, if only with land, and even that is not a fact, it’s NOT black soil, but you need to criticize everything early. )
      Continue)))
      So far you haven’t managed to invent anything particularly new, all this has already been encountered more than once in different versions, the general direction of your “movement” is already clear ...
    2. Sake Offline Sake
      Sake (Sake) 9 November 2019 09: 35
      -2
      Young man, why was the Comintern created and acted for? That's right, in order to export the revolution to all countries. In the program documents of the party and government of the USSR, before Brezhnev, it was imprisoned on the creation of a world Soviet Union, only under Lena it was replaced by support for the "National Liberation Movement" around the globe. In Spain, about the same thing happened as with the appointment of "tovarisch" A. Hitler as chancellor of Germany, as with Our Trump, with Marine Lepen and other corrupt parties and individuals. With money from the Comintern, in fact from Moscow, the socialists won the elections in Spain, but the military knew for whose money they won ... the rest is known ...
    3. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 9 November 2019 09: 49
      +1
      So for those who know everything - who organized the rebellion and started it? And everything else is nothing more than lyrics, otherwise you can start recalling what other organizations existed and why they were created at all)) otherwise you will honor you, and well, without the money of the Comintern, nothing would have happened, yeah)))
      Already heard and repeatedly, the last option - that this is the Russian Federation all the US elections in favor of Trump organized)))
      PS And you call yourself a young man first of all, in relation to those whom you DO NOT know at all, this is somewhat wrong))
  4. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 9 November 2019 10: 39
    +4
    As one smart man - the Soviet Union - said, it is an experience for others how to live!

    The name of this "smart man" you, of course, do not know? lol

    ... and in general, never and nowhere has she lost a war - what a mistake, in 36, the USSR muddied the civil war in Spain and lost it.

    What sawdust in your head. belay First, decide what war is. There are signs of this definition:
    1. Declaration of war.
    2. The severance of diplomatic relations.
    3. Cancellation of bilateral agreements.
    4. There is a special legal regime (martial law).
    What was made of this?
    If you don’t know anything, at least open Wikipedia ... The war in Spain began with a nationalist rebellion. Do you want to say that the USSR organized a rebellion, and then he himself fought with the nationalists?

    ... with the defeat of the Red Army, only a lot of "hot" Finnish guys were filled up!

    Decide - "the defeat of the Red Army" or "flunked the Finnish guys. This "dualism" in the head is a sign of schizophrenia. WWII, too, did we lose?

    The war unleashed by the USSR on the Korean Peninsula ...

    Is this your personal opinion? By the way, the war in Korea is lost? Legally, they still have a truce.

    Hybrid wars in Angola, Egypt, Ethiopia and other countries and continents turned out to be a failure for the USSR, Hybrid wars in Angola, Egypt, Ethiopia and other countries and continents turned out to be a failure.

    Oh, this Ukrainian hybrid warfare fashion laughing And then failure everywhere?

    ... all these countries owed a lot of money that the Soviet leadership and the military stole from the peoples of the USSR!

    Africa owes only the USSR? Look how much they owe the "damned capitalists" who "stole money from their peoples."

    Putin wrote off 160 lard + 20 lard to the African brothers - savages!

    Can you tell us more about "160 lard"? Where does the information come from? From the newspaper "Ternopil swineherd"?

    The war unleashed by the USSR in Afghanistan and the shameful defeat that led to the collapse of the USSR is also a shameful page of the USSR!

    First, why the defeat? The troops withdrew, the task of achieving victory at all costs was not set, a limited contingent was operating. What can be called a victory in Afghanistan? Ask the Americans. What makes you think that the USSR fell apart due to the war in Afghanistan?

    Two wars unleashed by the Russian Federation in the North Caucasus and both successfully lost ...

    Where does this data come from, do you have voices in your head again?

    for which now and in the vague future, the Russian Federation is paying reparations to the mountains or just a tribute!

    Do you mean Chechnya? Your right is to have your own opinion, even if it is so perverted, but have you ever seen the winners fight in the army of the vanquished?

    Soon it will be, like our friend Hitler, when he betrayed that the German people are not worthy of him ?!

    We will never, like your friend Hitler.
    PS And yet the USSR lost one war, this is the "Polish campaign", but you with a Selyukov education, how should you know.
  5. Warrior Offline Warrior
    Warrior 3 January 2020 01: 36
    +2
    For sake
    Do not hang your noodles on our ears .... All this is your usual infamous LIES ... Anyone who knows history will easily refute your lie about the USSR ...
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 7 November 2019 22: 00
    0
    There is no need for dviguns, for Energomash it is the only way to make money. In case of "circumcision" E. Musk will complete the entire program and for less money.

    Run, build, do ..... And what has not yet been completed? request Shy? sad
    1. Sake Offline Sake
      Sake (Sake) 9 November 2019 09: 36
      -2
      What E. Mask has done and is not accessible to Batutych and Roscosmos!
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 9 November 2019 09: 46
        +2
        ... what E. Mask has done and is not accessible to Batutych and Roscosmos!

        Golden words! good

  • Vladimir_ Voronov (Vladimir) 7 November 2019 11: 06
    0
    Dear author, You forgot about the existence of the Yellowstone Super Volcano in the United States. As they say, read more at:

    https://noi.md/ru/v-mire/uchenye-nazvali-datu-vzryva-jelloustonskogo-supervulkana

    Even a reminder of this causes a cold sweat among the Americans ...
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  • Whiskey's organs is delta (Long_Shot) 7 November 2019 12: 33
    0
    Sivkov is a man of "fantastic" mind. He also forgot to mention that the shipyard is an object of strategic importance and, if something happens, it will be guarded better than any US Navy base. And I strongly doubt that even the paint on the slipway will be scratched.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 7 November 2019 22: 04
      +1
      Sivkov is a man of "fantastic" mind. He also forgot to mention that the shipyard is an object of strategic importance and, if something happens, it will be guarded better than any US Navy base. And I strongly doubt that even the paint on the slipway will be scratched.

      To guard and protect - there is a difference. Do Americans have reliable air defense? belay When? Did I miss something? request
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 November 2019 15: 46
    +1
    Again, throw all the caps .... not tired?
  • Screw Offline Screw
    Screw (Gennady) 7 November 2019 16: 35
    +1
    If military necessity - they will bomb. And so - let it work and eat resources. For some reason, Ushakov recalled, Ushak Pasha - the Turkish title of our rear admiral.
  • Sake Offline Sake
    Sake (Sake) 7 November 2019 18: 47
    -1
    I already listened to this strategist Sivkov and was amazed how such limited people are given thick stars for shoulder straps? It is not for nothing that such specialists of a wide profile then die in batches in the navy or in batches glow at the Salisbury spire. About the last two "dichlorvos" generally scream, they are definitely "blue-eyed" in this GRU, and the level of their development pulls the vocational school of the Soviet era.
  • Vasil K. Offline Vasil K.
    Vasil K. (Vasil K.) 15 January 2020 13: 46
    0
    No, optimists are not translated! Feel free to give a slap in the face half the battle and wait a full half under the rib ...
  • Pavel Fedorov Offline Pavel Fedorov
    Pavel Fedorov (Pavel Fedorov) 4 February 2020 10: 58
    0
    We’ll throw matches, don’t drift, guys ...