NATO deployment across the border: Western media warn Russia

Recently, NATO exercises at the very Russian borders began to be conducted almost continuously. The next Iron Wolf II maneuvers, which began in Lithuania, caused extreme displeasure with its aggressive orientation not only in Moscow, but also in Minsk, which was officially announced in both capitals. Nevertheless, the North Atlantic Alliance, completely ignoring the opinions of its neighbors, continues its military games as if nothing had happened.




What do they ultimately achieve in NATO? What do you want to achieve with such a demonstrative saber-clanging at our borders? We will try to find the answer to this question, relying primarily on what is quite openly said and written in the main countries of the Alliance.

From the Iron Wolf to the European Defender


There is nothing surprising in the fact that the “wolf howl”, which is actually a roar of diesel engines of American and German tanks, makes both Belarusians and Russians nervous. According to an official statement by NATO representatives, “at the Lithuanian training ground Pabrade,“ they will work out defensive tactics, ”however, at the same time, for some reason,“ carry out offensive tasks. ” In what directions and on whom specifically can one attack from Lithuania, I think it’s not worth explaining. However, the Iron Wolf, in which only 4 combatants from 11 countries of the Alliance will be involved, is only one of the many rehearsals of a truly large-scale action - the forthcoming NATO Defender Europe 2020 maneuvers unprecedented in scale next year. In fact, they will represent It is the ultimate pumping of Europe by American troops with their access to the western and southern borders of Russia almost over their entire length. Just like in 1941 ... Perhaps that is why some German media write with genuine enthusiasm about the upcoming event?

So, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung states:

Russia must know: we want and still can!


What do you want ?! Are you trying to scare us? To incline to something, to prove something to us? Why on earth are all these “demonstrations of powerful synergy and strong friendship” that “potential opponents really should not like” how Lieutenant General J.T. Thomson, Commander-in-Chief of the NATO Ground Forces is talking about this, discussing future exercises? Make friends there, how much will fit - just not against us. Nevertheless, German journalists are trying to argue that “the Kremlin has ready-made scenarios” for starting a war in Europe, which could erupt after a “hacker attack on banking systems” or reports of violence against “Russian minorities” in various countries, which, of course they will be fake. And then - everything ... Aggression! "Russian military units" will flood into the West - and a kayuk. By the way, about the “can” Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung speaks more or less objectively, arguing that the “armed forces” of the Baltic states, in total, do not reach the full-blooded division, “in which case” will last, “a maximum of a couple of days”. All hope for the Americans and they are already in a hurry to help!

For some reason, the authors of this obviously propaganda concoction, which I don’t see the need to quote, completely ignored, for example, the opinion of the same director of the European Security Program of the International Institute for Peace Research, Jan Anthony, who, after conducting joint Russian-Serbian air defense exercises, said that even this does not give grounds to assert that Moscow is preparing to attack the European Union or any of its member countries. Yes, Mr. Anthony agrees that “now in Europe there is a very difficult security situation,” but this problem is caused, in his opinion, by “the ongoing deterioration of relations with Russia.” But we are not the ones who are making them worse! No, of course, if we continue to make the reunification of Crimea with Russia an “illegal and illegitimate annexation”, as was done in the last official statement of the Ukraine-NATO commission, then there will never be any improvement at all. Are the words of Foreign Minister Vadim Priestayko true that there is a certain “special headquarters” in the Belgian Mons, in which the top military leaders of the Alliance develop specific operations against Russia together with representatives of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces?

“Damage Strategy”


The most interesting thing is that this statement, in contrast to the absolute majority of "stuffing" from Ukrainian politicians, may well be a reflection of the true state of affairs. So, in the American edition of Foreign Policy, a publication appeared recently, the authors of which make not only significant, but rather alarming statements. For example, that NATO, it turns out, is already in full swing developing "strategies to contain Russia", including plans to attack the Crimea and the Far East. This happens, according to the publication, due to the fact that "Washington is acting within the framework of great-power rivalry" and intends to pursue a "strategy of horizontal escalation and cost", using "unlimited access to anywhere in the world." All this, of course, most of all resembles a plan of group suicide of humanity, however, it is impossible to completely discount the possibility that such thoughts are wandering in the minds of some representatives of the highest echelons of power in the United States. They have too deeply rooted in them over the past decades unshakable confidence in their own absolute military superiority and absolute impunity. In no way can they get rid of them, despite the changed realities.

What is surprising if in the United States not so long ago there were a couple of “military analysts”, some Bradley Bowman and Andrew Gabel, who quite seriously put forward the idea that “leveling Putin’s superweapon” is easier than ever. For this, it turns out, you need to quickly do just three things. First of all, "to appoint the Pentagon responsible for making key decisions regarding the command, control, combat command and communications system in the area affecting defense against hypersonic weapons." Well, yes, it’s important ... From whom then do you make a “scapegoat”, if what? However, there is a correction: neither blame nor make excuses if, God forbid, Russia will use hypersonic missiles, there will be no one in Washington. However, Bowman and Gabel are sure that they will be able to be stopped by fulfilling two more conditions: to poke in space more sensors that track "sources and" the spread of hypersonic threats. " And in the allied countries, such as Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Israel and Britain, to place more “corresponding interceptors” ... What are the corresponding ?! If there had been protection against the Vanguards, Daggers and Petrels, then they would have thought up where to place it without you!

The danger, however, lies in the fact that someone in the White House, such covert speculations can seem convincing. Hence the various “damage strategies” to our country, which, in the silence of the comfortable offices of multi-star generals and senior politicians, may seem successful and even feasible. But in practice, they will inevitably go sideways. By the way, in the same Foreign Policy, the authors of the publication conclude that such attempts of "restraining attacks" either will not lead to anything, even if they are for the "vulnerable periphery" for our country, which they are supposed to inflict, no more painful than mosquitoes bites, or "provoke severe retaliation with disastrous consequences." Moreover, American journalists believe that “most of the rest of the world” will consider Russia's harsh retaliatory actions legitimate and “justified.”

It would be good if in the NATO countries and, above all in the USA, such publications more often appear, rather than cheer-winning proclamations in the spirit: “we already want and we can still!” With Wishlist in relation to our country should be more modest and careful. At least because the “we can” of the North Atlantic Alliance, even taking into account the bombers and tank divisions being transferred from across the ocean, seems very exaggerated.
43 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.
I have an account? Sign in
  1. antibi0tikk Offline antibi0tikk
    antibi0tikk (Sergei) 5 November 2019 09: 43
    +4
    My great-grandfather says: I have a desire to buy a house, but I have no opportunity.
    I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire.
    So let's drink so that our desires coincide with our capabilities.

    Classic! Well, you won’t say more precisely!
  2. Nick Offline Nick
    Nick (Nikolai) 5 November 2019 12: 18
    +1
    Scared hedgehog naked booty laughing
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 5 November 2019 20: 33
      +1
      ... the maneuvers of Iron Wolf II, which began in Lithuania, caused extreme displeasure ...

      The NATO and Lithuania will probably survive both extreme displeasure and all kinds of concerns.
      It was necessary to fuss about 30 years ago, even then it was clear in which direction the train would go.
  3. The comment was deleted.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. The comment was deleted.
  4. Screw Offline Screw
    Screw (Gennady) 5 November 2019 17: 35
    +4
    The ballet "Nutcracker" with animation for children comes to mind. The three-headed mouse king was killed by a wooden shoe. Head interpretation: Washington, London, Paris, and the mouse prince is Cuev. NATO's fuss is like a mouse from that ballet.
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 5 November 2019 17: 50
    0
    DPRK does not bother. For every exercise, she launches her rockets. Do we have fewer missiles than North Korea?
  6. Sergey Antonov Offline Sergey Antonov
    Sergey Antonov (Sergey Antonov) 5 November 2019 22: 19
    -6
    Faster would the States have already conquered all and finally calmed down.
    1. Anchonsha Offline Anchonsha
      Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 6 November 2019 12: 58
      +1
      And on whom would you win back, don’t you know? You would be made a slave instead of blacks.
      1. Sergey Antonov Offline Sergey Antonov
        Sergey Antonov (Sergey Antonov) 6 November 2019 13: 18
        -4
        The whole world lives normally, and we are slaves). These tales can be told to victims of propaganda. I want to remind you - the Cold War is miserably lost. It is time not to cling to the corpse of an empire, but to learn to coexist normally with the whole world.
        1. S.V.YU Offline S.V.YU
          S.V.YU 6 November 2019 19: 17
          +1
          How and in whose capacity?
        2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 7 November 2019 09: 17
          +1
          You are one of those who say that if we had not resisted Nazi Germany, we would have been drinking Bavarian beer now. Yes, you would drink - in the next world, but in general - you would not be in the project, because your ancestors would be released into the chimneys of the crematorium, and the lands of the new planters - "Aryans" would fertilize their ashes.
          It is people like you who ride on "Maidans", vote at rallies and provoke the police. It is people like you who live on the handouts of amers and their satellites, in the hope that they will be welcomed with open arms in the notorious West. One thing you do not understand - you are a consumable for them, you are toilet paper for them, which, having used, is disposed of. As with Butina - they used it (while she was in Russia and was engaged in the dissemination of the "American way of life" and their "values", but when she got into the "city on a hill" - they used it for their intended purpose. After that, our Foreign Ministry had to pull her out) and threw away - put in jail. Do you still cherish wet dreams of when Russia will fall apart? Well, you should know that your life will depend on how long the Russian STATE will protect you with the police. After all, as soon as you and people like you demolish power (this is why you vote and provoke violence - to demolish power), you will be finished first. And this is not a threat, but a statement of fact, because to threaten those who do not understand the obvious things (imbeciles who have a place in a psychiatric hospital) means to sink to their level.
          1. Sake Offline Sake
            Sake (Sake) 7 November 2019 10: 28
            -3
            I ask you to draw your valuable attention to the facts that, along with the Wehrmacht, 1,2 million Russians and other nationalities fought against the USSR in the ROA, there were Cossack units, there was a Turkestan legion, there were police and so-called Khivi (transport and transportation), and all this is not Germans. So your theory about cameras collapses about the facts that the Germans entrusted these forces with weapons! Your nonsense is from coincidence, I am sure that in the Gulag camps and at the hands of the NKVD more people died, and all the more of their own, than during the entire war on the fronts!
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 7 November 2019 21: 54
              +2
              I ask you to pay your valuable attention to the facts that, along with the Wehrmacht, 1,2 million Russians and other nationalities fought against the USSR in the ROA, there were Cossack units, there was a Turkestan legion, there were police and so-called hivi (transport and transportation)

              You modestly forgot to mention your native Ukrainians, of whom there were more of them than others. winked The number of 1,2 million where? Don’t share the source? Or did you think?

              ... I am sure that in the Gulag camps and at the hands of the NKVD more people died, and all the more of their own, than during the entire war on the fronts!

              And I'm sure you are raving.
              Please provide the data. sad
              1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                A.Lex (Secret information) 8 November 2019 08: 27
                +1
                123, we thought that in the USSR they lied to us ... It turns out that the Pravda newspaper was really telling the truth ...
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 8 November 2019 09: 18
                  +1
                  123, we thought that in the USSR they lied to us ... It turns out that the Pravda newspaper was really telling the truth ...

                  Yes, Pravda spoke the truth, but not all of it. request An interesting suggestion. lol
                  Since those times of the USSR, I try not to trust one source of information, independently rethink the known information and draw conclusions. Which I recommend to you.
                  1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                    A.Lex (Secret information) 8 November 2019 17: 04
                    +2
                    123, the question is not that they did not tell the WHOLE truth ... But that DOES we NEED ALL this truth, all the ins and outs? After all, HOW and WHAT the welfare of the state is achieved is not always done with "white gloves" ... Someone also has to do "dirty work", and the population does not need to know these details! In addition, all these maniacs, perverts ... infa about them should be dosed and served correctly ... and not like today. True, the state must act effectively and firmly in such cases.
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 8 November 2019 17: 57
                      +1
                      And the fact that DO we NEED ALL this truth, all the ins and outs? After all, HOW and WHAT the welfare of the state is achieved is not always, sometimes, it is done with "white gloves" ... Someone also has to do "dirty work", and the population has nothing to know about these details! In addition, all these maniacs, perverts ... infa about them should be dosed and served correctly ... and not like today.

                      In some ways, I agree with you, now only "chernukha" is served. But on the other hand .... I lived in the Caucasus as a child, not far from us they found a murdered girl, gagged her mouth with a toe, strangled her and threw her under the bridge. Everyone knew the details, but there was nothing in the newspapers and on TV ... Then there were all sorts of terrorist attacks. By the number of traffic cops on the highway, they understood that the plane was again seized in Min-Vody. And on TV there is silence .... Did you get the impression that they do not trust us or is it not our business? In general, a reasonable balance is needed here; you should not hide information either.

                      True, the state should in such cases act effectively and firmly.

                      In my opinion, it is doing just that. Here I have no complaints.
      2. Sake Offline Sake
        Sake (Sake) 6 November 2019 19: 17
        -5
        I ask you to pay attention to who after the war fell under the influence of the USA - these are all the most developed countries like Germany, Japan and South Korea, and the countries that were already under the influence or new occupation of the USSR could not distinguish themselves by anything and contributed to the collapse of the USSR. Now these countries are members of the EU and NATO. Any questions...
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 7 November 2019 09: 20
          0
          There are no questions - countries occupied by amers. And the collapse of the USSR was facilitated by its own citizens - both ordinary and in power (even the Americans were surprised at this).
          1. Sake Offline Sake
            Sake (Sake) 7 November 2019 10: 03
            -4
            In the first part of your answer, I have a saying:

            Better with the smart to lose than with a fool to find.

            This is why, no matter how you call this US presence in Europe, it brought peace and prosperity to the countries, which the Soviet occupation power in its zone of influence could not offer. The only thing that has been achieved is the creation of gigantic armies and mountains of weapons, under which all these regimes were buried. And when the hour of "reckoning" came, it turns out, no one planned to capture us! Homegrown thieves and bandits in the face of the KGB defeated the country! That is the problem, it turns out that the party, the government, the military-industrial complex and the military have deceived and robbed us all the post-war period (which continues today), but no one asks questions like that, it becomes scary that lives were lived and laid for the sake of liars and thieves at the trough!
            1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
              A.Lex (Secret information) 8 November 2019 08: 25
              +3
              Yes Yes Yes. We know that even now the Americans do not want collapse, now Russia too ... You can tell these tales to your own. The people already see all the actions of you and your patrons from behind the puddle.
              1. Sake Offline Sake
                Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 10: 12
                -3
                When a country becomes a threat to the existence of neighbors and remote countries, measures must be taken to keep the aggressor at distant frontiers. The only way to ruin a large farmyard is to ruin it in a long local war, in an arms race and other expensive programs! The main thing is to prevent the beginning of a great war, and the show-offs of elders and thieves will ruin their country, which is expected by the current Kremlin elder, who stupidly stomps on the same rake that led to the collapse of the USSR!
                1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                  A.Lex (Secret information) 8 November 2019 16: 35
                  +2
                  That's it, I watch how zealous you are!

                  Well, and how - did your Poles help you, son?

                  Let’s continue to act like this, you look - you’ll fall apart yourself, and the Russian Federation will take what we need ... we’ll give the rest to the Pshek with Hungarians and Romanians. Those will quickly restore order! That will be fun!
                  1. Sake Offline Sake
                    Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 18: 30
                    -4
                    What or whom do you want to buy? You have abandoned in Shilovsky district of Ryazan village, abandoned in Mokshan district of Penza village, you have Chinese in Chuvashia, not to mention Transbaikalia, Irkutsk region, Altai, and you opened a box for someone else ?! Indeed, as Dostoevsky said, ... not a people, but a beast!
                    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                      A.Lex (Secret information) 10 November 2019 16: 20
                      +3
                      Well, the beasts are just you and those whose followers you are - history has already shown WHAT you are ... But don’t worry about our abandoned villages, we’ll pick them up. The main thing is the territory of Russia, all right. In the history of Russia, settlements have disappeared more than once somewhere, but somewhere else they rebuilt. This is not our problem. And we know which ones. And we decide gradually (unlike you). In our recent history, we have already solved the problems at once and radically - the memory of this is still fresh - many people were lost for various reasons. Therefore, NOW we try not to do harsh and rash acts, and therefore we tolerate people like you. Because we know that many of your coders are young, brainless, succumbed to the bright, but the same brainless propaganda concocted for you from behind a puddle. And for those, the main desire is to dismember and destroy Russia. And you are just a tool in their hands ... a dumb tool. But all the worse for you. We also understand that in the history of Russia there have been many traitors - a person is weak, unfortunately, subject to temptations and does not always think and calculate what he is doing.
                      And to acquire - certainly not you. We will provide such joy to Zapad. If we wanted to "capture" you, then, believe me, we didn't need much time. The only question is - why do we need the population, which, in a significant part, does not understand anything? Neither in the economy (otherwise we would not have severed ties with the Russian Federation), nor in demography (otherwise they would have done everything so that Crimea and Donbass would not leave you), nor in politics (otherwise they would have understood perfectly well what you are for Zapada) - name at least for one reason why we need this people and these territories (mind you - I put the people in the FIRST place, and not like you). You are a burden to us. Which would have to be dragged and pulled. So - we do not need you, but you will not join NATO either. The West understands perfectly well that the blow will be instantaneous and then we will not even pay attention to your statehood, because you yourself do not need it - lie down under the one who (as you think) is "stronger", not understanding a simple thing - they are behind a puddle, and we are HERE. And they will not help you, in which case. They have already shown this and more than once - when the enemy is equal to their strength (at least), they retreat.
                      So - you have no brains. But there is no fat in the head - count the cripple, and the cripple is doubly if he does not understand this.
  7. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 6 November 2019 11: 14
    0
    We do not want, but we can always and everywhere!
    1. Sergey Antonov Offline Sergey Antonov
      Sergey Antonov (Sergey Antonov) 6 November 2019 13: 22
      -1
      Can what? In terms of living, we are below Panama and Mexico. Can we catch them?
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 7 November 2019 09: 21
        -2
        You are, yes, below. In terms of intelligence (most likely, be at the level of an aquarium fish).
  8. Anchonsha Offline Anchonsha
    Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 6 November 2019 12: 57
    +2
    They are played, the Germans, too, can already, forgot or how to understand. But it is not in vain that the Anglo-Saxons are considered the most vile (the Saxons are the Germans) and the constant enemies of Russia. Damn Gorbach, because our troops had withdrawn from Germany, now our tanks there would not have prevented from pursuing their policies.
    1. Sake Offline Sake
      Sake (Sake) 6 November 2019 19: 19
      -2
      What would you feed these troops after the collapse of the GDR ...
      1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Sake Offline Sake
      Sake (Sake) 7 November 2019 15: 40
      -3
      There are criteria for calculating meanness, which can be determined, since the overflow of countries and peoples from two communicating vessels, in which it has become smaller, are the most vile! So, one vessel with the name of the USA, and the other with the name of the USSR / Russia, guess of the two who got less?
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 7 November 2019 20: 54
        +2
        There are criteria for calculating meanness, which can be determined, since the overflow of countries and peoples from two communicating vessels, in which it has become smaller, are the most vile! So, one vessel with the name of the USA, and the other with the name of the USSR / Russia, guess of the two who got less?

        Why guess? It turns out the meanest England. sad Just a champion. laughing The British Empire, over which the sun never sets. fellow And where is she? request And since the people are the same, the following will be the States. repeat
        1. Sake Offline Sake
          Sake (Sake) 7 November 2019 21: 01
          -4
          I didn’t guess, the meanest one is the most fastidious and spiritual, which gave birth to enemies and not a single friend (just do not need about the army and navy) around, and now the other day He gathered his brothers in spirit, and everything, as a selection, was black and world ushlepki, cannibals and savages, and He is one little white and botox!
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 7 November 2019 21: 11
            +1
            I didn’t guess, the meanest one is the most fastidious and spiritual, which has spawned enemies and not a single friend (just do not need about the army and navy) around and now the other day He gathered his brothers in spirit, and everything is like a selection of black and worldly earlings, cannibals and savages, and He is one little white and botox!

            How did you not guess? belay What is not true about England? It was all spiritual with moral values ​​and kept on the army and navy, and gathered under the wing of both black and red, and called friends, but they felt how weak they were, drove the white gentlemen with rags they had made. lol And it will also be with the States, as they will give slack, and the occupation bases will not save. This they are now called friends, while they are in power ...
            1. Sake Offline Sake
              Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 18: 37
              -4
              Are you stuck in England or something? Do you know anything but England? I’ve heard about slack in the United States since the beginning of the 60s, but during this time the favorite of all the world’s earhooks and savages grunted, the baton was small and pony, but with brains ... something was wrong .... it leads the country to ruin!
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 8 November 2019 19: 43
                +2
                Are you stuck in England or something? Do you know anything but England?

                Why, I know. And what, I don’t want to talk about her? Does not fit into the version? sad

                ... but during this time the favorite of all the world’s ear-hookers and savages grunted, the baton was taken by a small and smart-looking one, but with brains ... something was wrong ....

                There are some ridiculous riddles. belay

                ... leads the country to perdition!

                Do you care about us fools again? smile Don't worry, we'll handle it ourselves, worry about your "nenka". lol
        2. Sake Offline Sake
          Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 10: 18
          -5
          What a long way to throw stones, the USSR wanted world-wide Socialism, armed all kinds of savages and ushlepoks, and where is it now? If it goes on like this in Russia, the output is already Siberia and Primorye, and you worry about the amers, however, it’s not clever!
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 8 November 2019 10: 39
            0
            What stones were thrown far away, the USSR wanted world-wide Socialism, armed all kinds of savages and ushlepoks, and where is it now?

            And what are you chewing for the USSR, think now about your "Ridna Nenka".
            If you try to approach the prospects of collapse even a little bit seriously ... then all empires sooner or later collapse. Yes, the USSR collapsed, is this one such case in the world? It is logical to compare the results. The British Empire is very well suited for this and the comparison is not in its favor, and then there is "Brexit", so as not to lose Scotland and Northern Ireland.

            If it goes on like this in Russia, the exit is already Siberia and Primorye

            With a fright? belay Someone from the "foreign" will tell me that I, it turns out, "on the way out of Russia"? Will you tell from afar how bad everything is with me here? What are the prerequisites for the exit?

            and you worry about amers, not smart however

            Yes, I do not worry about them. request It's just that Russia survived this period, "got sick" and acquired immunity. But the "amers" have all this in the future and by all indications not so distant laughing
            1. Sake Offline Sake
              Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 14: 20
              -3
              Everything is still ahead, the insanity of the ringleader is growing stronger, tomorrow he will find a new enemy and you will go "... for work, he went to fight ..", only now for the Sechins, for Roldugin, for Usmanov, for Timchenko and their leader .. . is not shameful?
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 8 November 2019 14: 45
                +2
                ... everything is still ahead, the insanity of the ringleader is growing stronger, tomorrow he will find a new enemy and you will go "... for work, he went to fight ..", only now for the Sechins, for Roldugin, for Usmanov, for Timchenko and their the leader ... isn't it shameful?

                Ask about the insanity of your "either a sucker, or not a sucker", about ours it is not for you to judge. Sechin, Usmanov ..... you know everyone .... I don’t remember half of them in person, we have to see who Timchenko is. Where does this concern come from? belay Who cares who I go to fight for? If Natsik and Bendera strangle, then I’ll go with pleasure. And in general, change the training manual, boring. No. These "chants" have long become boring, they are designed for very narrow-minded people, we have few of them, request all, basically, were piled for the Dnieper. laughing
                1. Sake Offline Sake
                  Sake (Sake) 8 November 2019 18: 44
                  -5
                  How many stranglers like you, the valiant defenders of Ukraine, sent to the cattle cemetery? No need to call me names, I'm not Ukrainian, but I'm proud of them, they, like the Finns, once smashed the vile aggressor in the horns! So the Ukrainians pounded your ichtamans and vacationers, and your shameful people buried their cases at night, their wives abandoned their husbands, mothers from their sons, shame and shame! The highlanders have you, and the National Guard and the riot police are afraid to touch them, and they lutzut you like enemies!
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 8 November 2019 20: 01
                    +2
                    No need to call me names, I'm not Ukrainian, but I'm proud of them.

                    So the Ukrainian-is it to call or proud of it? smile I would say who you are, but delete ....

                    they, like the Finns at one time, smashed the vile aggressor in the horns!

                    In Debaltseve? smile

                    So the Ukrainians pinned your ichtamans and vacationers, and your shameful people buried their cases at night, their wives abandoned husbands, mothers from sons, shame and shame!

                    Your boil has boiled. laughing And I thought people who grazed pigs in nature had a more stable psyche. repeat

                    ... and the National Guard and the riot police are afraid to touch them, and they are beckoning at you like enemies!

                    I forgot to write about the Chinese that they captured all of Siberia. lol Go sleep tomorrow tree. sad
  9. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 6 November 2019 19: 51
    +1
    - Ha ... and what would all this audience write, and how would they scream, and how would they cry if their effeminate states were from the West Europe would be bordered ... would ... would ... would be with China ...
    - And they would have next to them ... behind a very weak, thin, purely symbolic border ... tens of millions of Chinese armed to the teeth (and hundreds of millions more ready to stand up to help them); as well as hundreds of motorized divisions and armored corps; a whole myriad "legion" of missile and artillery units; hundreds of aviation regiments and groups; millions of trained and trained paratroopers ... And all this power ... all literally "grin" in one direction and ready to take action at any moment ... I wish Zap. Europe would now squeak ...
    - But Russia does not even "itch" ... - But it only continues to throw more and more into China, and newer and newer ... all of its weapons ...
    - Who will mourn us ... - Zap. Europe or something ??? -Yes, she doesn’t give a damn ... Since we don’t give a damn about ourselves ... - then even more so ...
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 8 November 2019 20: 18
      +1
      That would be Zap. Europe would squeak now ...
      - But Russia does not even "itch".

      Don’t worry so much that for us there are 100500 milens and as many legions? laughing By the way, the real number of PLA can be found on Wikipedia.