Why the new Russian military base in the Central African Republic is a bad idea

After the recent summit, Africa is now in trend in Russia. Everyone is vigorously discussing the write-off of the $ 20 billion debt by the Kremlin and what Russia can get in return. Moreover, the CAR government itself invites Moscow to open a military base on its territory. Should I take this tempting offer?




At first glance, we must rush to grab our piece of the "black continent", where China has long been actively pushing the former European metropolises. In Africa, 13 foreign countries marked their military presence. The strongest positions are in Paris and Washington. France carefully controls the former colonies, the United States on a hegemonic basis scatter its infrastructure everywhere. Is it not time for Russia to return to where the USSR’s positions were previously strong?

What are the advantages of strengthening Moscow’s position directly in the Central African Republic? As you know, there are large reserves of diamonds, uranium, oil and, presumably, gold. In addition, the official Banga (the capital of the republic) expresses a great interest in Russian weapons and the help of our military specialists in preparing the local security forces to deal with “flounders”. And, perhaps, on this the whole positive is exhausted.

At first, The CAR does not have its own access to the sea, so the supply of a military base is possible only by air. Taking into account the distances, you don’t particularly run into it, at the cost of maintenance it will become “golden” for the budget. You can’t place a large contingent there, but there’s no sense in it. The question is what to do if, in the event of a conflict with NATO, the air corridors are closed for us. Even our military in Syria, separated from Russia by three seas, is under such a threat, and in the much more distant CAR they do not shine anything good.

Secondly, in the Central African Republic there is a long-standing civil conflict. Currently, it is formally suspended, but may at any time flare up again. There is a risk that the Russian military may be involved in it with all the consequences in the form of the dead and the growth of military spending. Why do we need it now?

Thirdly, you must be aware that, when looking down on African diamonds, oil and uranium, Moscow enters the "plot" of Paris. The fact is that the CAR is part of the so-called “Francafrica”. On the territory of the "black continent" Paris previously had 14 colonies. It is believed that France relatively peacefully released its possessions, but this is not entirely true.

The former metropolis retains control of half of Africa through an ingenious financial system. In 1945, Paris introduced the so-called “African franc”, or CFA franc, as the currency for 14 countries, tied to the French franc. In the sixties, the "African franc" was divided into two actually interchangeable currencies, one for West Africa, the second for Central Africa, which includes the Central African Republic. In exchange, all 14 former colonies deposited 65% of all their currency in the Treasury of France, and Paris received a veto over their money policy. This system has been preserved after the introduction of the euro.

In other words, France continues to plunder half of Africa in a civilized manner. Due to the inability to devalue their currencies, the former colonies cannot develop economically, remaining the poorest countries in the world. The ex-president of the Fifth Republic, Jacques Chirac, honestly said in 2008:

Without Africa, France would have slipped to the level of third world countries.


This is the note of Russian liberals who cite France as an example of “right capitalism”. In order to live beautifully, as in Western Europe, one needs to “enclose” someone else. A logical question arises, but how will Paris look if the Russian oligarchs snoop on its "plot", and what problems will it be possible for our military to arrange on such a remote and alien theater?
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  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 28 October 2019 13: 19
    -3
    Are you afraid of any France? And prestige, and geopolitics, and if not us, then NATO soldiers?
  2. Bekkir Offline Bekkir
    Bekkir (Bekir) 28 October 2019 16: 02
    +3
    It’s not about the fear of France or anyone else. They wrote off huge debts, in return for what? Priority for trade and work of companies from the Russian Federation? Who is better off? Well, at least a friendly vote at the UN on the proposals of the Russian Federation, with all the ensuing consequences, but this is unlikely to take place. And the need for a military base in the CAR is a matter of deep study, perhaps there are more minuses than pluses.
  3. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 28 October 2019 18: 28
    -2
    After the recent summit, Africa is now in trend in Russia. Everyone is vigorously discussing the write-off of the $ 20 billion debt by the Kremlin and what Russia can get in return.

    The hype about this write-off is not entirely clear. request Firstly, not only Russia wrote off the debts to Africa. The write-offs took place within the framework of the "Paris Club" (agreement of 1999), in 1996 the World Bank and the IMF infected the program for writing off the debts of the poorest countries, in 2002 the G8 countries decided to write off the debts of Africa.

    Secondly, the debts were written off a long time ago, they simply reminded of this before the summit. Argue about the events of the past decade. Where have you been all these years? sad

    Does Russia need bases in Africa? What do you think, if you are going to develop trade there? The region is specific, in general, "it's hard in a village without a revolver." The article says that

    In Africa, 13 foreign countries marked their military presence.

    Why should Russia be on the sidelines? Find Djibouti on the map, the French have dug in there (and they still have Germans and Spaniards "lodging"), Italians, Japanese, Saudis, Chinese, Americans, and the Turks want to settle.

    That concerns the base in the CAR.

    Firstly, the CAR does not have its own access to the sea, so the supply of a military base is possible only by air.

    But on earth in any way? Is everything delivered to Tajikistan by air?

    Secondly, there is a long-standing civil conflict in the Central African Republic.

    And where is calm in Africa? Does the conflict prevent other countries? Moreover, the appearance of the base stabilizes the situation.

    Thirdly, we must be aware that, when it comes to African diamonds, oil and uranium, Moscow is entering the “plot” of Paris.

    In our "clearing" of the post-Soviet space, anyone is marking time.

    A logical question arises, but how will Paris look if the Russian oligarchs snoop on its "plot", and what problems will it be possible for our military to arrange on such a remote and alien theater?

    Do not worry about the French. Moreover, a theater is not so distant and alien. Angola was next and nothing.

    As for the geographical location of the base, for the airdrome it is. The radius of the SU-30 is about 1 km. without refueling, Nigeria, Cameroon, Niger, Chad, Sudan, South Sudan, Uganda, Rwanda, DRC, Congo, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, some Angola Ethiopia and other small things are placed in it in whole or in part. About a third of the continent is under control.

    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 28 October 2019 18: 56
      -3
      “About a third of the continent is under control” - why? Imperial burp?
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 28 October 2019 19: 28
        -1
        “About a third of the continent is under control” - why? Imperial burp?

        Why are you writing nonsense on the site all over the country? Liberal burp? Just write on the fence. sad
        What are other countries doing in Africa? Do they burp too?
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 28 October 2019 20: 01
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          As for imperial burping, I asked you a question personally. Does it really matter to you personally? Your plans for controlling a third continent look very funny, with an estimate of the radius of action of the SU-30, etc. “Angola was further and nothing” - that’s really, it’s nothing, only the country has torn. Union experience taught you nothing? “Those countries” have historically developed interests and their zones of influence. Their role is ambiguous, but in many respects positive. Do you know there at least one country that has achieved particular success, becoming independent after the departure of the "colonizers"?
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 October 2019 21: 10
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            Your plans for controlling a third continent look very funny, with an estimate of the radius of action of the SU-30, etc.

            Glad to have fun. I do not pretend to be analytics. And what is wrong with the reasoning? What, the place is not suitable? Or the military is not needed? Without power support, nothing will work out at all. The same French, why don't they remove all the troops from there and just trade?

            “Angola was further and nothing” - that’s really, it’s nothing, only the country has torn. Union experience taught you nothing?

            The country did not overtake, but fell apart due to mediocre leadership. Now I don’t see such a problem, everything is pragmatic.

            “Those countries” have historically developed interests and their zones of influence. Their role is ambiguous, but in many respects positive.

            The French and the British? And the Americans, Chinese, Saudis, Turks, too? Zones of influence do not appear by themselves, if you are not present there, they will never appear.
            Historically formed zones of influence .... Do we need to respect this and not climb? belay Yes ... on them with their zones of influence. Does anyone look at our zones of influence? The post-Soviet space is not our zone of influence? sad

            Do you know there at least one country that has achieved particular success, becoming independent after the departure of the "colonialists"?

            And why did you decide that they left completely? Reread the article.

            It is believed that France relatively peacefully released its possessions, but this is not entirely true.

            In fact, no one left, the management methods changed. They are still exploited and pitted with each other.
            And what were their special successes under the colonialists?
            After the collapse of the control system, life does not flourish anywhere. After the collapse of the Union, which of the former republics achieved particular success? Kazakhstan is afloat, Belarus - and so far it receives oil at a cheap price, and the Balts sitting on subsidies, while maintaining a decent appearance. Or were we also colonizers?
            1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 October 2019 08: 37
              0
              The country did not overtake, but fell apart due to mediocre leadership. Now I don’t see such a problem, everything is pragmatic - since the same "rake", then the problem is the same.
  4. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 28 October 2019 20: 00
    +2
    Instead of Putin taking care of his country and his economy, he gladly rushed to deal with Africa. We have that there are few diamonds in Russia - the field is not plowed!. And give Africa to our aligarchs. And who will deal with Russia? Or are they only interested in privatization?
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 28 October 2019 21: 19
      -1
      Instead of Putin engaging in his country and his economy, he gladly rushed into Africa. We have that, in Russia there are few diamonds - the field is not plowed !. And give our oligarchs Africa. And who will deal with Russia? Or are they only interested in privatization?

      If you close only inside the country and do not develop foreign trade, nothing will work. Africa is not only a mineral resource, but also a market. And you can sell there not oil and gas, but industrial goods with high added value. The Russian domestic market is limited. You don’t buy yourself five refrigerators. Where would China be if it were only engaged in itself and did not think about export?
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 October 2019 08: 42
        0
        Do you make refrigerators? Complete nonsense, for China just sales markets are vital, they really produce something. And what should we sell (rather give for that?), Except for weapons to all the warring parties and “export of unrest”? Again for the ephemeral “greatness” and leadership ambitions?
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 29 October 2019 15: 41
          -1
          Do you make refrigerators?

          Personally, I do not. smile I’m also not sure that you personally have what

          sell (rather give away for so?)

          yes and

          weapons to all warring parties and “riot export”

          you will not be able to organize. yes

          Complete nonsense, for China just sales markets are vital, they really produce something.

          And we, then, do not produce anything? What in general? belay In your opinion, China built everything at first, developed production, relying solely on the domestic market, built roads, sold gas everywhere, provided sausage without soybeans, cookies without palm oil, pensions to poor grandmothers, etc. (you can add what they usually start to write here to argue that we should not go anywhere). And now, when there are no more problems at home, has China finally deigned to start exporting? Do you imagine that? wassat A new enterprise is opened in Russia every 1,5-2 days. But you are not interested, you just know that there is nothing. request By the way, where are we doing the “riot export”? sad You're lying like ...... repeat
          1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 October 2019 16: 36
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            A new enterprise is opened in Russia every 1,5-2 days.

            - And how many enterprises are closed every day?

            Over the past year, due to worsening economic conditions, 668 thousand legal entities have closed in Russia, the Ministry of Economic Development reports.

            https://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/127272

            No, "....... how Trotsky"?
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 29 October 2019 17: 14
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              Over the past year, due to worsening economic conditions, 668 thousand legal entities have closed in Russia, the Ministry of Economic Development reports.

              Do not confuse warm with soft, I'm talking about real production, and you about legal entities. Go to "state services", register and here it is a new "legal entity". It is far from always related to real production. There on your link it is written

              All of them belonged to the category of small and medium enterprises.

              We opened a stall, and then it turns out that we need to buy a payment terminal. They took it closed. And many generally exist only on paper. Or there was a "legal entity", they saw the "individual entrepreneur" to be more profitable, there are fewer reports, it is more profitable and cheaper to pay taxes, re-registered, the "legal entity" was closed, and that's the reorganization.
              And in general, this is a normal process, some open, others close. More details here:

              https://rg.ru/2019/04/08/kolichestvo-ip-v-rossii-vpervye-prevysilo-kolichestvo-kompanij.html

              Please note that it says on your link:

              Most firms closed in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Tatarstan, the Moscow region and the Krasnodar Territory.

              https://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/127272

              Now tell me how the economy is decaying in these very regions, how depressed they have become. lol
              So, Lev Davidovich in comparison with you is just an angel laughing
              1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 October 2019 18: 12
                0
                It seems that you are very far from this issue, or engaged. When the difference is between 1-2 per day and 2000 per day, I don’t even want to try to discuss with you on the topic: business development in Russia. And without this, all your geopolitical mirages and eggs are not worth a damn.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 29 October 2019 18: 38
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                  It seems that you are very far from this issue, or engaged. When the difference is between 1-2 per day and 2000 per day, I don’t even want to try to discuss with you on the topic: business development in Russia.

                  You do not understand the difference between a really built and releasing a new enterprise and the registration (re-registration) of a legal entity or individual entrepreneur? recourse

                  And without this, all your geopolitical mirages and eggs are not worth a damn.

                  Then yes, you should not read about Africa.
                  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 October 2019 19: 03
                    +1
                    I understand very well, but a coefficient of 2 - 3 thousand times many times, with a huge margin, overlaps all your assumptions. It's just that at first we need to put things in order in all areas. And it is clear that a very large queue of next "friends" will line up for your weapons in the form of not very repayable loans.
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 29 October 2019 20: 27
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                      I understand very well.

                      Do you understand?

                      ... but the coefficient is 2 to 3 thousand times many times, with a huge margin, overrides all your assumptions.

                      I'm telling you about really built and operating factories, factories, workshops, elevators, farms, and you tell me about the registration of "legal entities" and "IP". Coefficient, you say ... We go to the website of the Federal Tax Service of the Russian Federation, September 2019, 22 921 registered in the register, legal entities, including 22 787 created (of which 288 are reorganizations). During the same period, 55 489 ceased operations, including reorganization 949, liquidation 6 813, bankruptcy 772 and finally, the bulk of 47 354

                      in connection with the exclusion of a legal entity by decision of the registering authority from the register

                      decryption by reference:

                      http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_
                      LAW_32881/0017a6361857fb364a367648cedcb5946ce49bf1/

                      These 47 354 existed only on paper, they have nothing to do with real production. And you are trying with the "coefficients" in hand to prove that we do not produce anything. By the way, are you aware that the tax authorities in recent years, "without straightening their backs", have been fighting against "one-day firms"? They are closed in tens of thousands a year. Go to the site:

                      https://www.nalog.ru/rn77/related_activities/statistics_and_analytics/forms/8376083/,

                      download any tablet, study, have fun. laughing

                      It’s just that first you need to put things in order in all areas.

                      Well, of course, lol while China needs to stop all investments abroad until everyone has pensions, and the United States close all bases until people in America stop living in cardboard boxes. sad
  5. Panting Offline Panting
    Panting (Vyacheslav) 28 October 2019 21: 13
    +1
    Otto is not a small woman trouble, then I bought a piglet. Houses need to be put in order.