Dismissed in a fall: what tasks did the president set for Sergey Glazyev

It became known about the official dismissal of Sergei Glazyev from the post of adviser to President Putin. Since the head of state no longer needs the advice of an academician, he was attached with a lowering to the Eurasian economic Commission for the Minister of Integration. What tasks will the famous Russian economist face?




Why Glazyev did not take root among domestic liberals that rule the ball in our economy can be easily understood from his many public statements, for example:

The main thing for us is the development and use of the Chinese experience in managing the economy in order to reach the GDP growth rate of 7-8% annually. The Chinese comrades cannot understand why we are following a mossy libertarian cliche and stupidly implementing the IMF recommendations.


In any management system, there are official figures who are allowed to talk a lot about the activities of the government, but the time allotted to the academician has clearly expired. Political analyst Alexei Makarkin explains:

Glazyev is just considered a fiery statesman, anti-Western, a fighter with a Western backstage. And he believes in what he says.


Can his transfer to the ECE be considered an honorable reference, or is it an attempt to find his energy the best use in the construction of the “mini-USSR”?

The academician received the post of minister in a supranational body, which is de facto the "government" of the Eurasian Economic Union, which includes Russia, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Belarus and Kyrgyzstan. The agreement on the creation of the EAEU was signed in 2014 and is considered by some as an attempt to revive the USSR. Unfortunately, with the “mini-USSR” everything is not as simple as we would like.

On the one hand, there is some progress in the development of the economic union: Moldova has become an observer country, China, Cuba, Vietnam and Iran have signed an agreement on a free trade zone, about 50 more countries have expressed a desire to cooperate with it. The EAEU is closely linked to the Chinese New Silk Road infrastructure project from Asia to Europe, which could be one of the incentives for integration for development.

On the other hand, the total specific economic weight of even the five states of the post-Soviet space is very small. A very big blow for the EAEU is the absence of Ukraine in it. The idea of ​​introducing a single currency, as in the EU, will obviously remain at the level of talk for a very long time. There are also many other problems.

If you call a spade a spade, the goal of some countries that have joined the EAEU is not integration, but the receipt of economic preferences from the Russian Federation. The Belarusian partners are famous for their shrimp and cheese, which hints at some gaps in the customs space from Europe. But with the Asian direction, everything is complicated. It is estimated that Kyrgyzstan buys goods in China for 70% of its GDP, which then go to the Russian market.

The problem is getting Russia, the largest economy of the union, under Western sanctions. This creates problems not only for herself, but also for other EAEU participants. There is a misunderstanding on the issue of mutual competition. Russian exporters are objectively interested in access to allied markets while limiting imports. Moreover, the EAEU countries produce many similar commodity items. This problem could be solved through agreements on the specialization of each member of the union and their mutual complementation. But instead, they are trying to maximize import substitution.

At the same time, the former Soviet republics, to put it mildly, are not inclined to give up at least part of their sovereignty. Political integration does not occur due to the slurred economic and general friability of this association.

In general, the emergence of the EAEU as an attempt to integrate in the post-Soviet space can be welcomed, but this association requires a lot of systematic work on itself, so that it begins to represent some real strength and attractiveness for new participants. It is hoped that Sergei Glazyev will have enough authority and resources to carry out such a task.
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  1. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 10 October 2019 13: 27
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    Here Gosplan is needed. What the Russian Federation cannot acquire due to sanctions can be acquired - Kyrgyzstan, or Kazakhstan. Remember Finland and the USSR.
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 11 October 2019 09: 51
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      Vladimir, what are you talking about? The article clearly states that:

      The main thing for us is the development and use of the Chinese experience in managing the economy ...

      Not rethinking the experience of the Russian Empire, the USSR, China and other successful countries and creating YOUR own economic model, but mastering (like developing a budget like?) Experience, i.e. - STUPID COPYING!
      And you are about some Gosplan ... In order to introduce SOMETHING LIKE, you need to do ANALYSIS of everything that we had (and not only ours) successful and not very (and at times, and in general - failed). In order to prevent absolutely stupid mistakes and deceit. But in order to start the analysis, you need a GOAL! Those. - what we want to build, why and what to GET (and not GET) at the output. .....
      And for this we need an ideology that will WORK for this GOAL!
      1. Ehanatone Offline
        Ehanatone 11 October 2019 16: 34
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        In order to start the analysis, you need a GOAL.

        And for this we need an ideology that will WORK for this GOAL!

        +++++++
    2. maidan.izrailovich (Maidan Izrailovich) 11 October 2019 11: 07
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      Gosplan, for example, may be needed. But where does the Gosplan and the “opportunity to acquire” have to do with it?
    3. 2logik Offline
      2logik 12 October 2019 11: 21
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      So far, the heirs of Yeltsin in power (and primarily Putin) are frivolous fiction.
  2. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 October 2019 15: 09
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    I think that there are no tasks for him and cannot be.
    1. maidan.izrailovich (Maidan Izrailovich) 11 October 2019 11: 16
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      I think that there are no tasks for him and cannot be.

      For an economist, that's for sure.
      For, the peasant is already 58 years old, but he has not yet been marked by anything remarkable in the economy.
      Okromya how to give "advice." crying
      1. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 October 2019 14: 48
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        And the advice is mostly gloomy, to say the least.
  3. Nick Offline
    Nick (Nikolai) 10 October 2019 15: 16
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    The author incorrectly indicated dismissal with a decrease. Get fired - just get fired. With a decrease or increase only translate. And they dismissed Glazyev from the post of adviser to the President only after Glazyev was appointed to the post of minister in the EAEU, that is, in connection with the transfer to another job.
    1. Digital error Offline
      Digital error (Eugene) 10 October 2019 18: 46
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      Quote: Nick
      ... in connection with the transfer to another job.

      He advised the president of the Russian Federation to invest NWF funds in his own economy, and not in foreign assets. Now he will advise in other places, and the new "right" advisor for replacement in the AP will be quickly prepared.
  4. Roarv Offline
    Roarv (Robert) 10 October 2019 20: 02
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    People with common sense, who are sick for the interests of the state, are not needed for the Oligarchs with double - triple citizenship ....
    But the author did not correctly indicate - Dismissed.
  5. candidate Offline
    candidate (candidate) 10 October 2019 20: 08
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    Horses at the crossing do not change.
    1. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 11 October 2019 03: 56
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      Looks like they've already crossed.
  6. Screw Offline
    Screw (Gennady) 11 October 2019 04: 18
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    With a distant sight set. Probably, Ukraine soon, like a ripe banana, will fall on our heads - it’s necessary to deftly dodge, so as not to hurt — there is no industry, there are no minerals, it is inhabited by robots, captain Zeleny has already arrived (from The Secret of the Third Planet).
  7. yuriy55 Offline
    yuriy55 (Yuri Vasilievich) 11 October 2019 06: 59
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    Mr. author!

    What tasks will be faced famous Russian economist?

    Could you briefly announce the entire list of his “well-known cases”, or are such Russian economists “widely known in a narrow circle of comrades” who eat up a fallen horse in a ravine?
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 October 2019 10: 36
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      Absolutely right. And the last sayings are at least strange.
  8. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2019 07: 36
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    Quote: Nick
    The author incorrectly indicated dismissal with a decrease. Get fired - just get fired. With a decrease or increase only translate. And they dismissed Glazyev from the post of adviser to the President only after Glazyev was appointed to the post of minister in the EAEU, that is, in connection with the transfer to another job.

    This is not a claim to me.
  9. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2019 07: 37
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    Quote: yuriy55
    Mr. author!
    What tasks will be faced famous Russian economist?

    Could you briefly announce the entire list of his “well-known cases”, or are such Russian economists “widely known in a narrow circle of comrades” who eat up a fallen horse in a ravine?

    Mister questioning, Google to help you, there the entire biography of the academician is given.
    1. yuriy55 Offline
      yuriy55 (Yuri Vasilievich) 11 October 2019 18: 40
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      Quote: Marzhetsky
      Mister questioning, Google to help you, there the entire biography of the academician is given.

      And where does Google?
      You write that he is known, not me. For example, his characteristic is absolutely uninteresting to me - the characteristic of a talker depicting a storehouse of knowledge.
      Look, this person will not lie:

      1. sgrabik Offline
        sgrabik (Sergei) 12 October 2019 16: 03
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        What kind of clown in uniform is carrying this ridiculous nonsense here? Chubais really really robbed the entire population of the country by its Chubais-style privatization, thereby creating the prerequisites for the appearance of all those oligarchs that we all are observing now. Glazyev, on the other hand, offers a completely different program, he writes that not only oligarchs, but every Russian citizen has the right and should receive income from the sale of oil, gas and other Russian minerals, as we say everywhere, our bowels are property of all our people, here the people have the right to receive certain incomes, which are now flowing into the pockets of a narrow circle of certain people whom we all know well. Therefore, to assert that Glazyev offers the same thing that Chubais did in the 90s means to be a round idiot, incapable of soundly and constructively thinking and distinguishing offers from really positive economic ideas that are useful for raising living standards and purchasing power of the Russian people.
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          yuriy55 (Yuri Vasilievich) 12 October 2019 18: 38
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          Quote: sgrabik
          Glazyev offers a completely different program, he writes that not only the oligarchs, but every Russian citizen has the right and should receive income from the sale of oil, gas and other Russian minerals, as we say everywhere, our bowels

          I’m very embarrassed to insult you in absentia just because it’s disgusting to call the clown of the deceased, whom you are not good at, ... Are you in this photo?


          Now explain to me which of those present here excelled in creative activity in the public service? Every Russian ... blah blah blah ... you still slander ... It’s not enough for you that, with the participation of Chubais, everyone was “pulled” onto a voucher, now we have to listen to his friend, Glazyev’s sausage, and to capitalize with the known outcome of the country's bowels ... Thank you in a hat. You and Glazyev, a geek from the Ukrainian SSR ...
  10. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2019 07: 39
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    Quote: Bulanov
    Here Gosplan is needed. What the Russian Federation cannot acquire due to sanctions can be acquired - Kyrgyzstan, or Kazakhstan. Remember Finland and the USSR.

    The State Planning Commission assumes a planned economy, and we have an invisible hand of the market ...
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 11 October 2019 09: 55
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      ... in order to introduce state plans, you must first give an assessment of the last 30 years and everything that has happened to us ALL ... and stop self-deception in the form of "invisible masturbation" ...
  11. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2019 11: 09
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    Quote: A.Lex
    ... in order to introduce state plans, you must first give an assessment of the last 30 years and everything that has happened to us ALL ... and stop self-deception in the form of "invisible masturbation" ...

    Here, rather, not self-deception, but a direct deception. I noticed that there are not so many self-deceivers, although there are.
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      Digital error (Eugene) 12 October 2019 09: 48
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      Quote: Marzhetsky
      ... there are not so many self-deceiving ones.

      There are many of them - people cherish the psyche.
      Somewhere recently flashed such a phrase:

      The state finally turned to face the man and the man screamed in horror.
    2. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 20 October 2019 19: 16
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      ... especially here they appear - in your other article.
  12. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2019 11: 11
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    Quote: Arkharov
    Absolutely right. And the last sayings are at least strange.

    Absolutely true and strange for you and your like-minded people. So the wording will be more accurate.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 October 2019 10: 32
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      In May 2019, in his blog on the website of the newspaper Zavtra, he suggested the possibility, under the newly elected president Vladimir Zelensky, of a massive relocation of the promised land (that is, the Israelis) to the land of Donbass cleansed from the Russian population. The Kremlin, through the lips of Dmitry Peskov, hastened to distance itself from this hypothesis, calling it "exclusively personal opinion, which may be an incorrect statement by adviser Glazyev." In response, Glazyev told the Moscow Says radio station that he did not intend to give up his words.

      I wrote what I wrote, and everyone sees what he wants to see. Let's see what happens next, ”the politician explained.

      It’s necessary to write less than any crazy stuff. It’s also not very old. So we looked what will happen next.
  13. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2019 11: 13
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    Quote: A.Lex
    And for this we need an ideology that will WORK for this GOAL!

    Yes, without ideology, nothing intelligible can be built. At first I wanted to write about it directly, but said nothing, it was interesting if someone would pay attention in the comments. They paid.
    But the trouble is that ideology is directly prohibited at the state level.
    Article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation recognizes the ideological ...

    1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.
    2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.

    - and that says a lot ...
    1. 123 Online
      123 (123) 11 October 2019 16: 09
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      Do not judge strictly, the topic for me is not entirely meaningful; before, I did not think much about ideology. Maybe the lack of ideology is a plus?
      What ideology can we have? Socialism? Communism? As far as I know, no one has announced anything new.
      Russia is trying to build normal relations with all countries, there are no ideological contradictions with any country (confrontation with the West is not an indicator, contradictions are not ideological). We simply develop mutually beneficial economic relations. We don’t teach anyone life, we don’t impose anything. For example, in the Middle East, relationships are maintained with all players. Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia. Relations between them - you yourself know which. Russia over the battle, there are no contradictions with anyone.
      In the case of the designation of ideology, for example, we are building socialism, there is automatically a division into countries that support and oppose our ideology. We return to the situation of confrontation between the two camps. On this basis, our opponents will consolidate (the States will take care of this. yes)
      Another question, what do we mean by socialism? Socialization of ownership of the means of production? In fact, this is gradually happening and so, more than 70% of the economy belongs to the state and state-owned companies.
      Nobody really thinks about this, just people don’t like the “bourgeois” who have downloaded freebies on national property. What to do with them now? Just nationalize everything? And the assets owned by foreigners, too?
      Which countries will support such an ideology? I think even China is not ready to remove its billionaires.
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        Digital error (Eugene) 12 October 2019 09: 56
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        Quote: 123
        ... people don't like "bourgeois."

        There are different bourgeois - talented, accomplished everything themselves, engaged in patronage of art and "snatched" illegally and swearing about it, spitting on the people and not hiding it. People do not like the latter in fairness, the former because of their inability to suppress the base sense of envy of what they themselves could not.
        But the people are quick to kill - regardless of the fact that the former would be useful both in the economy and in management ...
        1. sgrabik Offline
          sgrabik (Sergei) 12 October 2019 16: 11
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          And we have almost no one from the first category, if you look closely, almost all belong exclusively to the latter category.
      2. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 20 October 2019 20: 19
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        I can offer! It’s no secret that a lot of things on the network and on television are being spoken differently and in different words one idea - social justice. Yes, this can be correlated with socialism. But there is one nuance that separates these two concepts - the ability to engage in private entrepreneurship (although, for example, under Stalin there were private traders and very numerous!).
        Well, since we are ready to combine socialism and social justice into one whole, we need to give a modern justification for this formation. And for this we need a science that will work on the justification of ideology and, at the same time, so that ideology does not degenerate into dogma (read - religion (which happened with the communist teachings in the USSR)) - it must be lively and timely respond to a constantly changing world .
        In general, it is necessary to approach the problem with thoroughness, which, at least somehow, was possible in the USSR, but certainly not in modern Russia. It’s necessary to guess that the Higher School of Economics will be redone at HSE and at the same time not change the essence of this university !!!!!!!!!!!!!! As the dogmatists did there, they continue to “forge” them, changing the sign and changing the ideology, but not changing the approach!
        1. 123 Online
          123 (123) 20 October 2019 20: 29
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          Well, since we are ready to combine socialism and social justice into one whole, we need to give a modern justification for this formation.

          Well, that’s why many people are for a new ideology, but they cannot formulate it, I don’t even speak about practical application. Reflections are limited - there will be a new ideology and life will improve. But something on the horizon of the "titans of thought" I do not observe. Maybe we are waiting for Vladimir Vladimirovich to write our Russian “Ruhnama”?
    2. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 20 October 2019 20: 05
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      Sergei, but there is ideology in the Russian Federation! But it is not proclaimed at the state level. This ideology was thrown to the masses by the late EBN - "ENRICH YOURSELF!" That is enriched, as anyone can! There is no substitute for this disgrace on the ideological front and ... until ... is not foreseen.
      ... Destroy and destroy anything - EASY! It’s hard to create anything worthwhile.
  14. Ehanatone Offline
    Ehanatone 11 October 2019 17: 07
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    I did not come to the court ...
    From here it is clear that the yard will not change ...
    From this it is clear that 0,5% of GDP growth will continue to be glued in different ways, as I can ...
    From here it is clear that during my life I will not be able to see an iPhone with a company at least in retirement, and not just on an oak branch ...
    Sadly ...
  15. Vkd dvk Offline
    Vkd dvk (Victor) 11 October 2019 20: 34
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    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Quote: Bulanov
    Here Gosplan is needed. What the Russian Federation cannot acquire due to sanctions can be acquired - Kyrgyzstan, or Kazakhstan. Remember Finland and the USSR.

    The State Planning Commission assumes a planned economy, and we have an invisible hand of the market ...

    The Soviet Gosplan tried to manage the economy, not possessing reliable information in any aspect. The Stalinist measures to ensure the implementation of the PLANS, ending for those who did not fulfill the punishment for the leadership up to landings for 10 years without the right to correspond, automatically, of course, caused a reaction of resistance. Silent Quiet but all-pervasive. Do not bring God to overfulfill the plan by 10%. In the next period, get an increase of these 10% plus a legitimate 2% growth. Three years later, for the systematic disruption of the State Plan, directors will be shot. Hence the concealment, as far as possible, of growth opportunities, and the containment of production. The most harmful enemy of production is the local Kulibin. This genius is sitting and thinking. If you're not lucky, you’ll come up with it. Improve the cutting details so that ...... What happens?
    Dramatically reduce material consumption. Wholesale price is legalized by Goskomtsen. The permitted profit at this production is 18% per year (at the factory where I worked). But, since the material consumption is sharply reduced, profit grows. You can’t touch the price. It is impossible to increase the salary of employees. It is impossible to increase the number of employees. The result - INCOME grows and goes beyond the permitted. A quarterly report passes, and Goskomtsen, taking care of the welfare of the workers, with round eyes - “PAYMENT !!! Guard! Profit! And cuts the price of the product, bringing back to normal what this honorable department is responsible for. Result - The plant will NEVER fulfill the plan In terms of the number of products it fulfills, but it has become cheaper and the plan in gross terms is in rubles .....
    What will the director do? He cannot say that Kulibin does harm. Will not understand. And in Beria’s times it will convey where it is needed. So the genius takes him to the garage, so that he would put things in order with the consumption of gasoline and leaving the cars according to the orders of the workshops.

    Would you like to re in the same shit?

    Didn’t capture the time when the drivers poured the remaining gasoline into the ditch so that they wouldn’t cut the norm?
    Didn’t capture the time when unused concrete was poured into a ditch so that the norm was not cut?
    Remember Arkady Raikin - with his reprise about buying a piano in a vegetable warehouse, in which to store potatoes. So that financing for next year is not cut off?
    1. Marzhecki Offline
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 12 October 2019 10: 00
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      You painted yourself in the colors you painted in, with similar comments. smile
  16. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 12 October 2019 09: 58
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    Quote: 123
    Another question, what do we mean by socialism? Socialization of ownership of the means of production? In fact, this is gradually happening and so, more than 70% of the economy belongs to the state and state-owned companies.

    You are replacing concepts. Public property in the framework of socialism and state property in the framework of state capitalism are, to put it mildly, different things.
    1. 123 Online
      123 (123) 12 October 2019 14: 13
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      Understand correctly, I'm not trying to prove someone's case, just trying to figure it out.

      Public property in the framework of socialism and state property in the framework of state capitalism are, to put it mildly, different things

      To be honest, I don’t see much difference, if only at the level of theoretical calculations. Take, for example, the Kurgantyazhmash abstract plant 70% owned by the state, 20%, say, Vekselberg, another 10% from Siemens. And how to translate it into public ownership? Nationalize? That is, to redeem or take away shares from Vekselberg? And what about the Germans? They invested money, possibly also critical technologies for this enterprise. We say thank you for working with us, and goodbye? Here is the confrontation.
      And what will these changes mean for me, for example, working at this plant? A new sign on the entrance and a sense of boundless pride that I do not work for the bourgeois but for the Russian people?
  17. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 12 October 2019 10: 02
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    Quote: 123
    In the case of the designation of ideology, for example, we are building socialism, there is automatically a division into countries that support and oppose our ideology. We return to the situation of confrontation between the two camps. On this basis, there will be a consolidation of our opponents (the States will take care of this. Yes)

    The competition between the two systems is not so bad. It is under her that real breakthroughs occur, and not general decay, as it is now under total capitalism.
    1. 123 Online
      123 (123) 12 October 2019 14: 33
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      The competition between the two systems is not so bad.

      I agree, competition is a good thing. Just how will it look in practice? Say, Vladimir Vladimirovich will come to the podium and say - have we changed our minds again, realized our mistakes and are building socialism again? Will we build in a single country or again from scratch to create a block of social countries? Where else are the remnants of socialism left? Cuba, Venezuela, and perhaps that's all. China and Vietnam, with their communist parties, are hardly socialist.

      It is with her that real breakthroughs occur.

      What breakthroughs do you expect? In technology? In healthcare? In space?
      It seems to me that declaring a new ideology is not the most important thing. Since 1991, the Constitution has not changed, but there are changes in the country. Remember how the Chinese have -

      No matter what color the cat is, the main thing is that it catches mice.

      (Den Xiao Ping, if not mistaken.) what
      1. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 20 October 2019 20: 59
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        And why did you immediately cling to ideology?

        It seems to me that declaring a new ideology is not the most important thing.

        Indeed, ideology is SECOND in relation to IDEA!
        First you need a GOAL (read - idea), and only then we attach ideology to it. Ideology for the sake of ideology is bullshit and complete insanity.
        1. 123 Online
          123 (123) 20 October 2019 21: 06
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          And why did you immediately cling to ideology?

          Well, why immediately grabbed onto? They just started talking for ideology, it became interesting what they think about it, what it is in people's minds and what it can give us useful.

          First we need a GOAL (we read - an idea), and only then we attach an ideology to it

          And what is our goal? Let's formulate, you look, by tomorrow morning and outline a new ideology. laughing
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    Vladimirnva55 (Vladimir Naryshkov (Didichenko)) 12 October 2019 13: 15
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    The general background in the post-Soviet space is such that the financial and economic freedom of citizens in this union is again ignored, i.e. instead of economic independence of citizens of all republics (union states) of this union, political PR for domestic consumption is put in the first place. For example, I was in the Republic of Belarus, but deliveries to Russia of products of this republic in a union state are shrouded in VAT problems, etc. Organizations in this republic are ready to supply to China, the USA, but not to Russia under official contracts. There are many obstacles and ears of personal interest in the personal enrichment, in fact, of the leaders themselves are visible everywhere. These facts are taking place now and for simple people such integration creates more trouble than economic freedoms. I will even say more that in Russia it is impossible for my LLC to sell legally manufactured products (so much negative that it is easier to abandon the idea of ​​producing and selling something in Russia). It is difficult even for Russian citizens to actually sell their products in a primitive bazaar, but the availability of markets and bazaars is officially declared, but in fact only for some. In this kingdom of crooked mirrors, it is difficult to expect real economic change. Perhaps Mr. Glazyev Sergey will find tools to repair or build a productive financial and economic dichotomy in the EAEU, as hope dies last. We wish success to Sergey Glazyev!
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 20 October 2019 21: 13
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      The state should create rules by which you are given the opportunity to do something there and the opportunity (at your request) to expand. The state can act as a purchaser of your products (in order to sell it to us, the consumer buyers). This, in my opinion, should be the state. What is happening in the post-Soviet space cannot be called otherwise than a bacchanalia of ENRICHMENT in all kinds of illegal ways.
      EBNovsky slogan is still valid today, and this is the current ideology of my Motherland (sadly), and the other neighboring countries too. That is why bureaucrats put sticks in the wheels for you. That is why we can NOT unite again.
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    Vkd dvk (Victor) 15 October 2019 01: 00
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    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Quote: 123
    In the case of the designation of ideology, for example, we are building socialism, there is automatically a division into countries that support and oppose our ideology. We return to the situation of confrontation between the two camps. On this basis, there will be a consolidation of our opponents (the States will take care of this. Yes)

    The competition between the two systems is not so bad. It is under her that real breakthroughs occur, and not general decay, as it is now under total capitalism.

    Then why the hell are you applying for state ownership of the means of production? So that the twin brothers would compete, producing batteries in Siberia and Donetsk, fulfilling the STATE plan, strictly tied to the buyer and selling products at prices legitimized by the state? And to suppliers of materials coming from one manufacturer-monopolist? Paying for the work of workers according to the Unified Tariff and Qualification Guide, which includes the very same 6 categories of battery fitter, with the same rates and rates?

    In general, are you aware of HOW ANTITRUST LEGISLATION WORKS in the USA? How is production taxed? And why did Bill Gates donate $ 9 billion to charity funds?

    This is now our profit is not limited to a steeply rising tax scale. And in Sweden, which is set as an example of Socialism in reality, good business is taxed. UP TO 75% per year.
    In the US, having a profit of more than 7% per year is not profitable. TAX PROTECTORS. We do not have capitalism, but a shameless perverted Soviet bazaar.

    And finally. For dessert.
    As you know, Russian Railways is a state-owned company. Compete with her. Lay the rails, build a depot, buy rolling stock ...... Report on the results.
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 20 October 2019 21: 51
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      Amer antitrust law is a fiction for the gullible. Tell me - who makes their aircraft and how about your “competition” and “antitrust”? With milk producers to tell you what's going on there? And how is it forbidden to farmers to sell their milk, bypassing the corporation? Tell you about Monsanta? Tell WHAT she sets conditions not only at home, but around the world? And why in India a wave of suicides swept (at one time) farmers growing cotton (a seed supplier WHO WAS ???).
      This is only a small part of how the amers "work" this very legislation. Because you do not put them to us as an example.
      Now for batteries - but what about the market? But what about the competition? And what does the PLAN have to do with it? Now these "batteries" are produced by anyone who wants (and most importantly - can). Now about suppliers-monopolists - do you think that there should be a lot of suppliers? Those. - It doesn’t matter what technology the part was made for, doesn’t play any role anymore (and this is now - all the time)? And in my opinion, there should be a standard at which TECHNOLOGY must be respected, and here, in Russia (and in most countries too), all sorts of technical specifications (and this is at best), or even CONFRAFT, now rule the ball. And why? But because, by law, the state does not have the right to intervene in private production. And from here and accidents, and poisoning, and other disasters (excluding the human factor). Here is the competition and the “free hand of the market”!
      And finally: the railway complex in Russia is a strategic direction of the economy. In addition, you should not compare the state structure of the Yankees and Russia - these are completely different countries, with a completely different history. To understand this, I will ask one simple question - how many wars were in the United States and how many wars in Russia? History and history again - that is what determines the development of everything that is in the country. Therefore, you are comparing the incomparable.
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    Vkd dvk (Victor) 21 October 2019 18: 53
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    Quote: A.Lex
    Amer antitrust law is a fiction for the gullible. Tell me - who makes their aircraft and how about your “competition” and “antitrust”? With milk producers to tell you what's going on there? And how is it forbidden to farmers to sell their milk, bypassing the corporation? Tell you about Monsanta? Tell WHAT she sets conditions not only at home, but around the world? And why in India a wave of suicides swept (at one time) farmers growing cotton (a seed supplier WHO WAS ???).
    This is only a small part of how the amers "work" this very legislation. Because you do not put them to us as an example.
    Now for batteries - but what about the market? But what about the competition? And what does the PLAN have to do with it? Now these "batteries" are produced by anyone who wants (and most importantly - can). Now about suppliers-monopolists - do you think that there should be a lot of suppliers? Those. - It doesn’t matter what technology the part was made for, doesn’t play any role anymore (and this is now - all the time)? And in my opinion, there should be a standard at which TECHNOLOGY must be respected, and here, in Russia (and in most countries too), all sorts of technical specifications (and this is at best), or even CONFRAFT, now rule the ball. And why? But because, by law, the state does not have the right to intervene in private production. And from here and accidents, and poisoning, and other disasters (excluding the human factor). Here is the competition and the “free hand of the market”!
    And finally: the railway complex in Russia is a strategic direction of the economy. In addition, you should not compare the state structure of the Yankees and Russia - these are completely different countries, with a completely different history. To understand this, I will ask one simple question - how many wars were in the United States and how many wars in Russia? History and history again - that is what determines the development of everything that is in the country. Therefore, you are comparing the incomparable.

    Tell others how, after the defeat, JAPAN was torn to pieces, dividing Mitsubishi and the like in at least three parts, fulfilling its own legislation, destroying monopolies.
    What was done with Intel, and where did Duron and Athlone come from? Why is the mask raised on state subsidies after the competing space corporations?

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    List of private space companies.

    Have you ever been able to understand the essence of this law? In three words -

    It is forbidden to produce anything in quantity, more than 30% of the need.

    Of course, far from the text, but the meaning is conveyed correctly.

    Sale of anything by farmers.
    Of course, this is due to sanitary requirements and the desire to preserve the market. A game is never purely one-goal. But is it a better situation when in a country like the USSR, a car was actually produced by one factory. Moskvich and Zaporozhets - not a car by definition. And the deficit allowed anyone to twist their hands. It is better?
    Railways are strategic things for any state. But in our country this is the property of the state, and there - property - only rails. Here they can neither be privatized, nor corporatized, nor leased. But this is a penny, compared to the rest. And the state, blocking ANY path on rails, controls prices, conditions, and safety of movement. The penny-worthy steering of trillions.