Zelensky is going to "throw" Putin and seize the Donbass

The domestic mass media, who were flashing out at the crowd gathered in Kiev against “surrender according to the Steinmeier formula”, are indeed quite miserable “under-Maidan,” unfortunately, miss a number of quite important things. The protesting idiots that are now rushing around in the capital, and its other towns and villages, are not at all a problem of President Zelensky, who considers himself to be more cunning than anyone else in the world, and the government headed by him. Most likely, they are just part of his plan, essentially petty, and, by the possible results, bloody.




The plan, according to which Russia should be left in the cold, Europe is confronted with the fact, and the fate of Donbass is destined to be “de-occupied” by iron and blood. On the conditions of Kiev and without any “formulas”. There are reinforced concrete evidence that such intentions not only exist, but are already being implemented.

Scientific and practical genocide


In fact, all discussions regarding whether the notorious “Minsk Agreements” are going to be implemented in the “non-winter” territory can be closed after a single event. We are talking about the All-Ukrainian Scientific and Practical Round Table held in the frontline Mariupol the other day with an extremely captivating title: "De-occupation of Donbass: the legal mechanism for restoring the territorial integrity of Ukraine." How do you like? The conversation is not about the performance of some kind of “Minsk”, which was seen in Kiev in a coffin, and in shoes of the corresponding color and style. And not even about the relatively politically sounding “reintegration”. "De-occupation" - and the point! I do not know to what extent this very “table” was “scientific,” but practitioners of a very specific specialization gathered around him a lot. From the Ukrainian army, SBU, police. Well, also from "public organizations". You guess what kind and sense. The issues discussed were quite appropriate for the selection of participants. The main one of them I would call this one: "Restoration in the temporarily occupied territories of all state institutions and law enforcement agencies of Ukraine." Do you have any idea what this is about? What is there "autonomy"! What kind of courts and prosecutors are not registered in Kiev registered in “Minsk”, what are “people's militias”, and, in the end, “self-government bodies” ?! None of this will happen! And there will be a “recovery." For example, the Ukrainian Security Service with its secret and explicit torture dungeons, the police and everything else that is attached to this.

And this is not an empty idle talk! Representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the country cheerfully reported that the department had already trained at least 800 police officers “specially for work in de-occupied territories”. The Ministry of Internal Affairs is not going to stop at this and the cadres of future Einsatzkommands for Donbass are outstripping the pace. What are the Steinmaers, what are you talking about ?! None of the serious people who make real decisions in Ukraine, and does not nearly allow the implementation of the most important components of the agreements on the terms of which the Donbass could return to its composition. And this, mind you, is not hiding at all, on the contrary - it is advertised and sticks out. The new Chairman of the parliament there, Dmitry Razumkov, in a television interview of October 6, bluntly and clearly says: “First - control over the border, and only then - elections and some kind of“ special status ”. Maybe ... Moreover, he refers to the Republic of Donbass only as "for now a temporarily occupied territory." From this, in fact, everything else follows. The position of his boss is also confirmed by the head of the parliamentary committee on foreign policy, Bogdan Yaremenko. According to his statement, they intend to conduct negotiations on transferring the border with Russia to Moscow exclusively with Moscow, and not with representatives of the DPR and LPR, whom he calls nothing more than “militants,” with whom, in fact, no one is going to conduct any conversations.

"Maidan vs. Steinmeier" - Zelensky’s plan?


It is precisely this assumption that allows us to make a number of points. First of all, the "servant of the people" behaves in the current, it seems, a rather delicate situation, absolutely calm. So, as if he knows perfectly well what will happen next. On the contrary, he confidently turns to the “protesters”, as it were, but in fact, using the occasion, to all the inhabitants of Ukraine. And he declares that the law on the special status of Donbass, the current version of which, adopted in 2014, expires on December 31, 2019, is not going to implement it at all. Bad law, Poroshenko’s, pooh on him! “We will write a new one!” - assures Ukrainians Zelensky. It is planned to write “all over the world”, with a nationwide public discussion in which “all Ukrainian society” will certainly participate. In fact, as you well understand, lawmaking, for the most part, the most "national-patriotic" concerned citizens of the "uncovered" will climb into this very law. And they write such a thing there that even take out the saints. It is very similar to what exactly the cunning comedian seeks to reduce to this situation. Then to widely shrug hands in front of the West and repentantly say: “What am I? I was ready for anything, at least for Steinmeier, at least what you ordered ... But here, you see, Vox Populi, against which you can’t argue. But you yourself demand respect for the will of the people from everyone and everywhere demand ?! ” There is no doubt that it will somehow be so. And then conversations about the “peacekeepers” and the “Croatian scenario” will begin. Everything is underway.

The wretched attempt to dissociate itself from the very time and place of the “protests” that occurred, made by the head of the Zelensky administration, Andrei Bogdan, leads to the same thoughts. The fact that there wasn’t enough fantasy for anything but a poor post where the protesters are accused of “paying” and some dubious “price lists” are given, this, excuse me, is the cost of Facebook thinking of the current Ukrainian “government”. What to take from them. Be that as it may, but the picture of the “universal indignation of Ukrainian citizens by surrender”, clearly directed at the external (western) consumer, is now being painted by Kiev with wide strokes and the brightest colors. All sorts of sociologists and other "experts" are hastily pulled out of the closets to give credibility to this action, urgently starting to "study the opinion of the people" in the right and "right" way. For example, the director of the Foundation for Democratic Initiatives, Irina Bekeshkina, has already admonished. Her organization, having conducted the corresponding “poll”, established: “Not more than 25-27% of Ukrainians are ready to accept the end of the war at any cost.” Residents of the country, it turns out, "against the elections in the occupied territories." They “deem unacceptable the special status of Donbass, spelled out in the“ Minsk Agreements ”. It turns out that the prospect of “a complete amnesty for the militants and the creation of an autonomous local police” causes a special mental pain among the residents of the “uncountable”. “And so - throughout the country!” - Madame Bekeshkina convincingly. Sits, you see, the poor old woman is somewhere in the remote village of Chernihiv or Volhynia, and weeps bitterly about the upcoming “hail” and shameful surrender ...

The "last checkpoint" of the Nazis


All this muddy wave - for good reason. Most importantly, she already finds a certain response in the West! So, last week at a meeting of the OSCE Permanent Council, held in Vienna, a special statement was adopted, which again raises the theme of "creating the right security conditions for elections in accordance with Ukrainian law." How such formulations are interpreted in Kiev, I think there is no need to explain. But the main thing is not even that. On October 7, the planned separation of forces should begin at the site in Zolotoy, the implementation of which was announced by Moscow as one of the indispensable conditions for a meeting in the "Norman format." So - while some freaks are jumping in Kiev and other places, arranging the "Steinmaermaidans" swept up on a lively thread, the armed detachments of Ukrainian nationalists have already advanced. They intend, in their words, to “protect local residents”, and, most importantly, “to prevent the emergence of at least one separatist”. And this is not a boast, again. The footage of the video recorded by the head of the openly Nazi “party” “National Corps” Andrei Biletsky clearly shows “activists” in army uniforms, demonstratively holding objects in front of them, which are nothing more than traveling covers for firearms. That, right up to the Kalashnikov with truncated functions, I recall, in Ukraine is in free sale ...


Well, Biletsky, in fact, does not hide the fact that not only activists of the National Corps, but also “veterans of the Azov regiment” take part in the operation to disrupt the separation of forces, which he called the “Last checkpoint” action. That is - one of the most bloody and infamous Ukrainian punitive. They intend to “stand still” until the “complete cancellation of the shameful“ Minsk agreements ”, while taking up, if necessary, a“ circular defense ”. And this is already much more serious than stupid races, even if under the windows of the presidential administration, it does not matter if they are paid or not. If Kiev had at least a drop of real political will to fulfill the recently undertaken obligations to establish peace in the Donbas, dragged to Zolotoye Biletsky, the bastard would have been packed in junk cars. At least - they would have disarmed and sent home. However, nothing of the kind is happening and is unlikely to happen. Now, at the final stage of gas transit negotiations, the Ukrainian authorities, like air, need "trump cards" to put pressure on Moscow. What could be better than another bloody aggravation on the contact line, which, of course, is blamed on the “Russian mercenaries”? Anyway, it's time to understand: Ukraine does not intend to do anything, to negotiate with anyone. Donbass is going to capture there. One way or another, sooner or later, but precisely to capture. “De-occupying” ... One can understand the Kremlin’s desire to follow diplomatic protocols and “road maps” to the last, which, in truth, are not worth the paper on which they are painted. However, the fate of the Donbass will be decided, apparently, will certainly not be at the negotiating table. In any case, it is Kiev that does everything so that there simply is no other choice.
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  1. Afinogen Offline
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 October 2019 09: 12
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    Zelensky is going to "throw" Putin and capture the Donbass.

    Zelensky can’t gather anything. Its purpose is to bow low to the "master" and quickly carry out his orders. And if the owner from America commits war, then there will be war. Here you can even see with the naked eye that they control it. I remember Petro Poroshenko went to the podium with a pitying look and a piece of holey iron (supposedly a piece of a bus shot by the aggressor), and recently Zelensky came out from the podium with a bullet in his hands. They are written scripts of what to say, and they cannot afford liberties.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 October 2019 09: 37
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    Ha.
    At the same time, 2 waves are going on - Zelensky is about to launch an offensive (as he went that year, ended in zilch).
    And Zelensky will be able to agree a little ....

    It can be seen that 2 groups of oligarchs are muddied.
  3. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 7 October 2019 09: 45
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    But talking with these ghouls is less necessary. There was a referendum in the Donbass. Russia needs to give hard time to fulfill the signed agreements. If not fulfilled, then Donbass joins RUSSIA as CRIMEA !!!! Everything, the problem is solved. And then solve the following problems after they are received, in the same way.
    1. Rusa Offline
      Rusa 9 October 2019 00: 11
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      Moscow first needs to recognize the DPR and LPR, where the population will mainly be with Russian passports, and then life will show what and how.
  4. kriten Offline
    kriten (Vladimir) 7 October 2019 09: 57
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    The war party in Ukraine has already realized that the Kremlin is leading the matter to the complete betrayal of the Donetsk republics. Hence, they became bolder ...
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 8 October 2019 00: 59
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      Fifth year, everyone fails, fails, fails, fails, they never fail. what Do not wait. no
  5. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 7 October 2019 10: 57
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    If everything is so bad in Ukraine and everything is against Russia, then why is Russia the main trading partner of Ukraine and continues to provide assistance to this country? Now, it was recently reported that Russia began to supply electricity to Ukraine. That fraternal Russia, Belarus helps Ukraine with petroleum products.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 8 October 2019 01: 26
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      If in Ukraine everything is so bad and everything is against Russia ..

      Not all.

      Russia is the main trading partner of Ukraine

      This is historically, but the situation is changing.
      A few details ... Export to Russia is falling, soon we will catch up with Poland, the difference is 400 million. Import from Russia has grown (European goods are expensive and simply can not afford). China is already catching up, the difference is 500 million. And it seems to me that it is not quite right to compare countries. They wanted "lace panties in the EU," and not in Germany or Poland. So it makes sense to compare the EU and the Customs Union. Then the situation is different, look at the plate by the link, especially on the last line.

      https://uteka.ua/publication/news-14-delovye-novosti-36-top-10-torgovyx-partnerov-ukrainy

      ..continues to assist this country? Here, recently reported that Russia began to supply electricity to Ukraine

      Until they understand the gas pipeline, they will not build an alternative, there will be no serious economic pressure on Ukraine. Stopping transit is too much of a budget hit.
  6. boriz Offline
    boriz (boriz) 7 October 2019 12: 19
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    Bad law, Poroshenko’s, pooh on him! “We will write a new one! ...

    Amazed by the nonsense of Ukrainians to the signed documents, inherent to them since the establishment of the "lack of solidity".
    The "bad" Poroshenko law on special status is just a toilet piece of paper, for the simple reason that it was adopted without coordination with the LDNR, as it should be under the Minsk Protocols. And what, are you going to coordinate a new one with LDNR? I doubt it very much. Speaking of a nationwide discussion, Zelensky does not mean at all the people of LDNR. They have long been strangers to him. Sorry, scum (C). So the next "law" will be applicable only in the toilet, for its intended purpose.
  7. Pishenkov Offline
    Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 October 2019 13: 43
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    With Ukraine, as with the state, one can seriously talk about something only in one case - if they themselves, on their own, will kill the whole Bandera bastard to hell. And if not, then we must either spit on this Ukraine and forget about it, or go and ourselves to "clean up" everything from the Donbass in Galicia.
    It is necessary to recall that the Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR, and the USSR in the 50s did not complete something there on this territory. This is what to substantiate ...
    And then all of this "transfusion from empty to empty" in all the media is already sick ... sad
    1. boriz Offline
      boriz (boriz) 7 October 2019 22: 24
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      With all due respect, what you say is Kindergarten "Burenka". How do you imagine that a simple Ukrainian will go and begin to beat Bandera? The United States has been investing billions of dollars there for decades to bring raguli to power and make impossible the self-organization of normal people (as, in fact, we don’t have a single party, a real alternative to United Russia). And to clean the territory for ourselves is more expensive for ourselves. There are millions of people with dependent consciousness, brought up under the USSR by the Ukrainian mafia in the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU. They are firmly convinced that the Russians should come and build a bright future for them, and they will give valuable guidance on the topic of how lazy and drunk Muscovites work badly.
      Putin takes them to exhaustion until the light of an unpleasant truth dawns in the rudimentary remnants of their brains: that they themselves can only ruin and plunder.
      1. Pishenkov Offline
        Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 October 2019 22: 40
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        Putin takes them to exhaustion until the light of an unpleasant truth dawns in the rudimentary remnants of their brains: that they themselves can only ruin and plunder

        - I think that Putin will not live to the point of “waning” himself ...
        Therefore, we must either spit, and at the same time come to terms with the huge NATO base at our borders, or

        ..Russian should come and build a bright future for them.

        But having learned from our own mistakes of the past. There is nothing to play against with nationalism, which is not the first time that has manifested itself on the worst, bloody side. Name all Ukrainian national organizations as terrorist and behave with them and their members and / or sympathizing accordingly.

        As for the "kindergarten Burenka", etc. - No, I can’t imagine that a simple Ukrainian will go and begin to beat Bandera - for this the state has an army and other power structures. And if they are not and / or they are not capable of it, then this is not a state and there is nothing to talk about with him at the state level.
        And the people there are quite normal, at least with

        dependent consciousness.

        There everything is about the same as in the Russian Federation
        1. boriz Offline
          boriz (boriz) 7 October 2019 22: 54
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          ... then this is not a state and there is nothing to talk about with it at the state level.

          The trouble is that this is your personal (and mine, by the way) opinion. But there are people in the world who have invested a lot of money to give this territory the appearance and status of a state. And this (for now) has to be reckoned with. The moment will come, it will be "possible." As with the Crimea. After all, Putin always said that the territorial integrity of the "brotherly" people is unshakable and .... But at some point (directly according to Lenin: it was early yesterday, and tomorrow will be late) it became "possible", and even necessary.
          He knows better. It is well known, after all: if you do not understand the actions of the head of state, it is simply because you do not know everything. And they, of course, will not tell you the whole truth. Neither before nor after.
          As for you, by the way: the former Ukrainian officials sat in the leadership of Crimea for 5 years, everyone wondered why they had not been replaced ... And now, just over 5 years have passed, all the heads of cities and regions have been dismissed. It seems that people got carte blanche when crossing the Crimea. The transition went quietly, people completed their. And 5 years they sat quietly in their places. Putin also fulfilled his. Therefore, it has authority in the world.
          1. Pishenkov Offline
            Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 October 2019 23: 22
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            The trouble is that this is your personal (and mine, by the way) opinion.

            - Well, why the trouble?smile We are here, it seems, and are expressing just our personal opinions. I personally, even without claims to the truth in the last resort. wink
            As for the fact that for 5 years old shots sat in the Crimea - they knew the situation, and it was much more reasonable and pragmatic to leave the nomenclature and technical staff in the field, but under supervision, so to speak .... Once again, thumb up for GDP. This is definitely a better solution than various “lustrations” on the political principle, which were actively carried out, for example, in former socialist countries. As a result of this, the "communist" cadre management chains were destroyed everywhere, despite the fact that there were simply no new "politically acceptable" people who own the situation ... Hence a huge number of mistakes and problems ... In Crimea, this was avoided ... And Ukraine again tried to take the same path ... Well, we are observing how they do it ...
  8. zenion Offline
    zenion (zinovy) 7 October 2019 15: 06
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    Zelensky wants to increase the population of Donbass by about two million. Russia will not be able to feed them. In Siberia, they are not needed, the whole forest is burnt out and there is no Siberian jungle. You can’t even see them in the small scope. The fact that Russia cannot feed such a horde can be seen from the fact that they could not feed a team of three pontoons and persuaded a well-fed Ukraine - please take them back, our hedgehogs are running out. Although we planted a crop of new hedgehogs, it is not known whether everyone will take it, or flee to the European taiga, or to the coast of the X sea, which washes Belarusians and has almost made an island out of the country. Those hedgehogs that were sent from Ukraine live forever, had to be planted in Siberia for the growth of a new taiga, or jungle, it all depends on the Almighty that he wants to grow. With fraternal greetings, we are on you.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 8 October 2019 01: 39
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      You are a cheerful person. laughing

      Zelensky wants to increase the population of Donbass by about two million. Russia will not be able to feed them. In Siberia, they are not needed, the whole forest is burnt out and there is no Siberian jungle. You can’t even see them in the small scope. The fact that Russia will not be able to feed such a horde.

      You were going to feed them with cones? lol

      .. the forest is completely burnt out and there is no Siberian jungle. You can’t even see them in the small scope.

      Are you sure? belay
      We will not give our hedgehogs to Ukraine, we will send for export to the USA. They have raised duties on European jamon and Parmesan, apparently, they will switch to hedgehogs. yes
  9. Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 7 October 2019 15: 46
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    Ukrainians will fight to destroy the Republics.
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    magin (Alexander -0-) 7 October 2019 17: 36
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    For five years, neither Russia nor the West can understand: what do the leaders of the “independent” with this Donbass want? All the while, naive Merkel looked hopefully into this lying mouth and gently chided Petya - “well, you made promises, well, you’re already almost in Europe, you have to fulfill it, they don’t do it with us”, which Petro chuckled with his comrades whether I promised her. In general, deceit, resourcefulness, deceit and betrayal are characteristic features of this people. It would seem that Russians and Ukrainians have lived for many years and time could change these features in the image of this nation, but no, nature takes its toll and again we have to pay for this “brotherhood”. There was a saying in the Soviet Army that aptly characterized the character of our Ukrainian colleagues:

    A crest without a bra - help without printing.

    Entering Europe, Petya saw an even greater lie in politics and the media there, this fully corresponded to his spirit and aspirations - his lie fell on fertile ground and was taken under protection. Now they lied together about aggression, about Putin, about democracy. Now the Ukrainian media has learned to brazenly lie and fool its people, corrupting it with the populist “freedom and independence”.
    What does the people want now? Does he respect the right and freedom of his neighbor, enshrined in the Treaty, does he support the ideas of the Nazis and the actions of newly minted assault squads? It seems to me that this large-scale Goebbel propaganda about the greatness of the nation has again stupefied the minds of young people, and they are ready to clear living space. These unhealthy aspirations should be curbed by the “people's” president, but he also turned out to be a spineless two-faced Janus, who has no clear goal or idea .. Gradually, naturally and with a quiet glanders, anarchy creeps in. As our fellow countryman, sociologist Andrei Lavrukhin correctly noted:

    Nothing produces anarchy like a state without responsibility.

    Anarchy can only be cured by solid power, sweeping these stormtroopers off the road, as Hitler once did on the "night of long knives", in one fell swoop ending with the overtaxed pretenders to his power.
    Say what you like, but it seems that the West will arrange any, including current, events, since it doesn’t give a damn about it, if only it would be bad for Putin.
    Well, what about Putin? I do not know. But his Tolstoy peace came already: how long will these poor Ukrainians humiliate and insult the Great Russian people? You defended the Ossetians and Abkhazians, but threw at the mercy of the bastards Russian people who die every day from your inaction.
  11. Dzafdet Offline
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 8 October 2019 11: 17
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    Troops in the Rostov region are standing on an ongoing basis ... So let's see ... If that, they will arrange another Ilovaisk ...
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    Kakis (kakis) 8 October 2019 11: 29
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    Damn, they found a Napoleon, journalists in general, thirsty for sensations, moved their minds or pretended to be downs, in which case - but I have a certificate.
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    vik669 (vik669) 8 October 2019 12: 07
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    Quote: Dzafdet
    ... they will arrange another Ilovaisk ...

    No, it will be better -

    Then - over someone’s chest
    And you do Warsaw!
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    Artie (Artyom Korolev) 8 October 2019 12: 47
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    Bredyatina, because there is no chance for the Armed Forces to seize Lao PDR. Even without the support of Russia, in itself, the Donbass army is not inferior to the quartered units of the Armed Forces. And if Russia intervenes, the advanced units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be destroyed in 2 days.
  15. In the words of Sasha Pushkin - "dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness?" But in reality, you first need to conquer the Donbass by defeating a couple of LNR army corps and supporting them from the rear of the Russian Armed Forces, and then, bursting with hysterical laughter, cut 3/4 of the population there and, finally, re-populate the territory with Bendera.
    It is really possible if only Russia will remain neutral, as with the Serbian massacre in Croatia. How will Putin decide?
  16. Vladimir Khrebtov (Vladimir Khrebtov) 8 October 2019 15: 30
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    Red heat. What is your evidence?

    American ears stick out behind Zele.