West revealed maps: Russia must fall in 2021 year


Over the past week, a number of Western (primarily American) politicians very significant statements were made regarding our country. Each of them in itself causes concern, but when summed up and compared with one another, all these messages create a completely alarming picture.


It is very likely that our “friends” have finally decided on plans for how and when they are going to end Russia, which does not allow them to remain “world hegemons”. Naturally, they intend to do this by completely and completely eliminating it from the geopolitical “chessboard”. Which way? Now let's figure it out.

"Maidan" in Moscow has already been appointed


The most, perhaps, the most aggressive, and at the same time cynical, frank can be considered a “farewell” interview, given, in fact, by the former US ambassador to Russia John Huntsman. This diplomat, who was about to leave our country, said that her future was “uncertain” and “in the coming years” she was expected to “quite interesting events.” And even expressed regret that he would not be in their midst. Well, here you can understand the ambassador, of course, it’s possible - he’ve been preparing a coup in Moscow for so many years, and when it comes to business, he, poor thing, is pushed aside. The fact that, speaking of the "fascinating and unpredictable future" of our country, Mr. Huntsman in mind has precisely the "Maidan", to which he and his colleagues so carefully push her, there is not the slightest doubt. After all, he lavished his main enthusiasm in the process of his speech to those citizens who "wanting justice, take to the streets." And - attention! - expressed great hope that the "changing patterns" caressing his eye, which the American sees in the ever wider spread of protest moods, will continue until the "parliamentary elections of 2021 of enormous significance"!

That’s what ... The main blow to Russia will be delivered this year. Already now there can be no doubt. Everything that is happening now is just a rehearsal. The entire parade of “oppositionists”, from professional “protesters” against everything in the world, to long-standing clients of the US embassy, ​​such as Navalny and the company, to outright frank freaks, like a raging “shaman” with a company, is just a casting. The preliminary selection of those who two years later will have to turn into “rulers of thoughts” and, accordingly, the new engine of the “revolution”, which, finally, to the great joy of Washington and its allies, will sweep away Russian statehood to hell. The established schemes do not change - the white-tape “swamp” devils came into the light of day, as we all remember, also after the Duma elections that they declared “dishonest”. Then it didn’t work out, and now Russia is beginning to be “rocked” and split up ahead of time. To be sure, without options ... The West simply has no other way. Speaking recently at a meeting of the NATO Military Committee Joseph Dunford, the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States admitted: "The Alliance has practically lost military superiority over Russia." Translated into a normal language with a tolerant-bureaucratic language, this undoubtedly means: “Guys, we are completely ... behind the Russians!” What is left? Only trying to destroy our country from the inside is what the stake is on.

Tame Putin


However, according to some, rather vague, but noteworthy data, the West may nevertheless make another attempt to reach an agreement with the Kremlin. Of course, on its own terms, which this time will be unprecedentedly tough. In the field of foreign policy, Moscow will no longer be required to partially, but completely surrender its interests in the entire post-Soviet space: by only one "reconciliation" with Ukraine, in the form as it is imagined in Kiev (at least for a start - the surrender of Donbass without any there "formulas" and the preservation of gas transit on conditions that are onerous for us), the matter will not be limited. Now on the agenda is Russia's withdrawal from Transnistria and refusal to integrate with Belarus. It is not for nothing that Chisinau and Minsk have recently become the objects of the most steadfast attention from the United States among all the post-Soviet capitals, pushing even Kiev aside for some time. One "demobilization chord" of Bolton's grandfather was worth something. Ukraine is already a US colony, but in the Belarusian and Moldovan directions Russia still retained some positions. This should be fixed! In addition, the most important foreign policy concessions will have to be minimization of cooperation (primarily military and energy) with China, and "normalization of relations" with Japan, the first step of which will be the presentation of Tokyo to the Kuril Islands without any conditions. Questions about Venezuela, Syria, Iran will probably be raised a little later ... However, the above is more than enough - don't you think?

Demands in the field of domestic policy boil down mainly to “ending repressions” and “democratization”. After all, it’s not without reason that one reproach is pouring from Washington today on Moscow - you beat demonstrators, you offend the sectarians, you are still doing something wrong ... In fact, all these claims mean a very specific desire of our American friends: that the current government would not resist attempts arrange a “color revolution” in the country, and accepted it as an inevitable fact. Ideally, having dismissed the Russian Guard, it quietly left the Kremlin through the back door, simultaneously dusting its heads with ashes. Do you think that the local media in vain with the strength and monotony of a hammer hammering piles are hammering into the minds of Western residents the idea that “Putin’s reigning power is being weakened,” “the Kremlin’s dictatorship will end soon,” “Russia is ready to rebel to reset the rotten regime” and like that? No way. This is also part of the preparation, and very important. Oh, it’s not without reason that Garry Kasparov is mad at the pages of The Washington Post, insisting that “Putin is losing power” and calling for the creation of a “united front of democratic nations” that will send Russia that he hates “into deep isolation”! Such as this ex-grandmaster without a team and mouth will not open. So there is a team. And the very “cruel sanctions” that almost all US official representatives are threatening today with us will, if anything, be introduced “at the request of the best minds, honor and conscience of Russia”.

Green light for the "fifth column"


In the light of all the above, in no case can one ignore the demand (not a request, not a recommendation, but a demand!) Put forward all this week by the European Parliament to our country. The malacholous “figures” gathered there not only adopted a resolution condemning “Stalinism, Nazism, and other authoritarian and totalitarian regimes” (at the same time, mind you, almost for the first time our country was mentioned not just that, but before the Third Reich ), they also expressed "deep indignation" that "the current Russian leadership is making every effort to conceal the crimes committed by the Soviet regime"! Naturally, they want these very “atrocities” to stop whitewashing, thereby waging a “dangerous information war against a democratic Europe”. Russia, according to European parliamentarians, again needs to repent and start celebrating the day of heroes of the fight against totalitarianism. May 25, yeah ... Well, this, we must understand, just instead of May 9. Indeed, if you suddenly assume for a second that you and I were “seduced” by all this Euro-balances, then what then can be Victory Day ?! It’s necessary to be ashamed, not to hold parades ... But did you really think that Warsaw, Sofia, Prague, who so intensely lately lately started about the “Soviet occupation”, do so solely on their own initiative and by virtue of the historical amnesia that hit the local authorities ? No, gentlemen, everything is much more serious here. This is a system, this is a clear plan for a well-thought-out campaign. Just Europe (and not only it) once again goes to Russia.

Again, as we remember at the time of the night, “perestroika” is ordered to abandon everything: from memory, from pride, from self-esteem and the like, things that are completely unacceptable for Russians from the point of view of the “civilized world”. Do you know what is the worst thing about all this? The fact that there are those in the country who are ready to do this! The idiotic “peace march” in St. Petersburg, whose participants with for some reason written in English (wondering why?) Posters and colorful balloons in the style of gay parades, opposed the “Syrian adventure” and “militarization of Russia”, gained only 30 people. But it all starts with a small ... This, as I said, is only a rehearsal. The premiere is ahead. And in the West, a powerful choir is already being prepared, ready to pick up any moaning about “trampled democracy” in Russia. They rehearse there too. Khodorkovsky’s concocted “letter against political repression”, without hesitation, waved the 77 “intellectuals” and, in general, “best people” there — some Nobel laureates, former presidents, and the like. Especially touching is the presence of two screenwriters of the Game of Thrones on the list of signatories. Russia mixed up with Westeros, clowns? Be that as it may, the mechanisms to protect the head of the mournful "people's saddlers" and "one children" from the upcoming barricades of the Russian "Maidan" are already being worked out with might and main.

By 2021, by and large, there was nothing at all. And if American diplomats broadcast in plain text about the "unpredictable and amazing" events that should happen in it, there can be no questions as to what exactly they planned. The question is different - will Russia be ready for the coming storm on it?
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  1. antibi0tikk Offline
    antibi0tikk (Sergei) 23 September 2019 08: 42
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    I remember not so long ago a joke was:

    American generals have gathered and argue when it is better to attack Russia.
    The Germans are asked. Those answer: just not in the summer!
    Ask the French. French: only not in the winter!
    Well, they decided to ask the Chinese, one of the most ancient civilizations, very wise type.
    The Chinese: attack now!
    Americans: why now?
    The Chinese: yes, understand, the Russians are building the Vostochny Cosmodrome, the "Power of Siberia", the Crimean bridge. They now need prisoners as air!

    So, gentlemen, Americans, it’s almost all built, we can do without prisoners. Although there are vacancies for digging trenches for Nord Stream-2 along the bottom of the Baltic.
    But seriously, they are afraid of a war on Russia, so they are plotting. A bit of Yars in the "decision centers" will calm down the stupid.
    1. King3214 Offline
      King3214 (Sergius) 27 September 2019 18: 38
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      You prisoners do not scatter ...
      We still need to build high-tech, along the entire southern coast of the Arctic Ocean, from Uelen to Murmansk.
  2. lyubomir.mirolyubov (Lubomyr Mirolyubov) 23 September 2019 09: 21
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    The West sleeps all its life and sees the collapse of Russia.
    1. Savigne Offline
      Savigne 23 September 2019 17: 01
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      Quote: lyubomir.mirolyubov
      The West sleeps all its life and sees the collapse of Russia.

      Yeah. Something when Hitler wanted to dismember the USSR, the West did not give him this.
      1. wichera65 Offline
        wichera65 (Vladimir Baranlv) 23 September 2019 18: 32
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        Learn the history of Savigne. At least go through the dates.
        1. Savigne Offline
          Savigne 24 September 2019 16: 44
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          Quote: wichera65
          Learn the history of Savigne. At least go through the dates.

          I know the story perfectly. And the whole list of "historical facts" (that is, empty stories), too. Therefore, I can distinguish one from the other. And I advise you to learn.
          1. A.Lex Offline
            A.Lex (Secret information) 24 September 2019 19: 57
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            Do you say “shovels”? Well, well ... You can immediately see the creak liberd!
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      3. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 23 September 2019 20: 44
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        Do you deceive me again?
        1. Savigne Offline
          Savigne 24 September 2019 16: 45
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          Quote: 123
          Do you deceive me again?

          Generally never stupid. Unlike you.
          1. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 24 September 2019 19: 26
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            Then, perhaps, share an alternative story "How did the West prevent Hitler from disintegrating the USSR"? It is advisable with reference to a serious source, and not to "A collection of fantasies and personal ideas about reality."
            1. Savigne Offline
              Savigne 24 September 2019 20: 18
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              Quote: 123
              Then maybe share an alternative story "how the West did not give Hitler the SSSS to dismember"?

              Have you heard anything about the Anti-Hitler coalition in the years of WW2? The USSR was accepted there on 24.09.1941 if you are not in the know.
              Take an interest. You will learn a lot for yourself.
        2. A.Lex Offline
          A.Lex (Secret information) 24 September 2019 19: 59
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          123, he is not stupid. He is one of those who are ready to sell his mother, if only the Americans gave him money for free. That's how they sell their homeland! Rather, they have NO HOMELAND - these are modern Vlasovites.
          1. Savigne Offline
            Savigne 24 September 2019 20: 28
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            Quote: A.Lex
            Rather, they have no homeland

            And here you are right. Since 1918, adventurers and crooks of all kinds (human trash, in a word), who called themselves Bolsheviks, took their homeland from the Russians for several years. Then the Russians (and not only them) were partially destroyed, and partially squeezed abroad. And the population remaining under their fifth was plunged into the abyss of the real Middle Ages.
            To the level of development of society that was in the summer of 1917, modern Russia is still unknown when it will come. No, it will fit (develop) it necessarily. But it can take a lot of time (to restore the former level of development of society).
          2. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 24 September 2019 20: 38
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            I’m not even trying to touch the moral side, I realized who I’m dealing with. He lives in a fictional little world where Hitler won, he is a successful and respectable bourgeois, an economist, but he is also sure that the power of the economy is measured not by GDP but by financial assets, the price of oil is tied to the price of gas, and so on. And my confidence is growing that this voice is broadcasting from the banks of the Dnieper, because you can’t hide the "dope maidan". It will be necessary to ask about the attitude to Bandera, it is interesting to listen)))))
            So in the "scanty rag" I poke my little face little by little, when I openly blunt. Let them at least learn to articulate clearly.

            When Hitler wanted to dismember the USSR, the West did not give him this.

            To divide a country, it must first be defeated, which, for well-known reasons, did not happen. In addition, "West" - the expression is not accurate, loudly said. The West is usually understood as Europe and the USA. From Europe then only England still somehow with a shovel fought back over the strait, the rest had long been cleaning the Fuhrer’s boots. Apparently, this refers to the United States. I can directly imagine how Hitler calls Roosevelt:
            - Will I dismember Russia?
            Answer: - No, I forbid.
            - Well, I won’t, - and Hitler, having dulled, leaves.
            But, apparently, it was meant that without American help we are not capable of anything, and we must be obligated to them by the grave. And in general, they always wish us well, even if people are shot in Arkhangelsk, this is all for good reason.
            So I’m not even trying to convince. The "Maidan of the brain" is obvious.
            1. Savigne Offline
              Savigne 24 September 2019 23: 26
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              Quote: 123
              It will be necessary to ask about the attitude to Bandera, it is interesting to listen)))))

              Bandera was a prisoner of Nazism (he spent the whole war in a concentration camp) and a fighter for the independence of the Ukrainian people. Moreover, by "Ukrainian people" he understood exclusively the inhabitants of Galicia.
              However, the "cunning Dzhugashvilya" of the Galician independents was repressed, and he "convinced" the rest that they were not those Ukrainians, but these, Soviet.
              As a result of such a “wise policy” in 2014, the Galicians tore Ukraine away from Russia. Not that subcarpathian (Galicia), but just the whole. And far from the fact that they will bring it back.
              And what for, one asks, did the USSR need that Galicia?
              Now about how the USSR got this very Galicia (as well as Volyn, Western Belarus and Vilnius with the Vilna district).
              In September 1939, the USSR annexed the territory of Zap. From Poland in accordance with the Soviet-German treaty. Ukraine, Zap. Belorussia and Vilna with the surrounding district. However, in the summer of 1941, everything went wrong. And in July 1941, the USSR refused territorial conquests in Poland in 1939 (Maisky-Sikorsky pact). Otherwise, the Anglo-Saxons did not accept the USSR into the Anti-Hitler coalition. And without this, Dzhugashvili had no choice but to blame the Volga and the Northern Dvina and continue to "develop socialism" already there.
              Dzhugashvili really did not want this, so he returned to Poland to the Poles in Poland in 1939. However, in 1945 in Yalta, he requested these lands back. To which he received the approval of the Anglo-Saxons, but already through the exchange of territories with Poland.
              Those. The Soviet Union received German territories in the form of reparations (mainly East Prussia, but not only it), and then changed territories with Poland (as far as I remember it was after the war).
              So the USSR retained its pre-war acquisitions in Poland. But this did not happen in 1939. And not in the same way as in 1939.
              The question is what the Russians would choose - the Kaliningrad region as part of Russia is several times larger than the present or Galicia and Volyn as part of Ukraine, Zap. Belarus as a part of Belarus and Vilna with a district as part of Lithuania?
              I think the answer is obvious. It is a pity that no one asked the inhabitants of the RSFSR and did not plan to ask.
              So the opponents of Galicia in the USSR were not as bad as it seems at first glance. If Galicia remained in Poland, it would be Her headache. And the USSR (RSFSR) would have left for itself a very decent piece of East Prussia in the form of the Kaliningrad region.

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              To divide a country, it must first be defeated,

              And who would have thought such a thing!

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              which for well-known reasons did not happen.

              It is known by what, the Anglo-Saxons took the USSR under their wing. They took it not just like that, but for selfish purposes (they later cost the population of the USSR 20% of the pre-war population only direct losses). But Dzhugashvili didn’t really care.
              1. 123 Offline
                123 (123) 25 September 2019 02: 01
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                You, as I understand it, are registered with a special doctor?

                Fortunately, everything is limited only to a visit to the dentist, taking into account, in the sense you mean, this can not be called.

                Learn foreign languages. Net financial assets are NOT translated.

                Excuse me generously, I missed the word "clean." Net financial assets, now right? Does this somehow change the essence of the matter? And the bottom line is that no one measures economic power with assets, clean or dirty, or any other. For example, an economic forum is taking place, serious people gather, heads of state, discussing GDP. Why not “pure financial assets”, stupid naive people? Can you give at least one link to information confirming your version?

                It will be necessary to ask about the attitude to Bandera, it is interesting to listen.

                I expected a story about such a plan. You have not fooled my expectations.

                Bandera was a prisoner of Nazism (he spent the whole war in a concentration camp).

                More precisely, it’s not the whole war, but from 1942 to 1944. How he sat there is also no secret. By reference, a short article about his imprisonment, there are links to sources, libraries in Australia, Wikipedia (Germany, not our “propaganda-infused”).

                https://topcor.ru/11171-zapad-raskryl-karty-rossija-dolzhna-past-v-2021-godu.html#comment-id-40642

                I am sure that with a deep knowledge of foreign languages, it will not be difficult for you to familiarize yourself with the content. However, you can just poke the "mouse" and choose - "translate into Russian."
                I don’t think this information will convince you of anything, but the difference between us is that I confirm my arguments with official and easily verified sources, but you put forward your views solely as the ultimate truth and broadcast the point of view of a handful Nazi Cove.

                However, the “cunning Dzhugashvili” repressed Galician independent people, and “convinced” the others that they were not those Ukrainians, but these, Soviet ones.

                "These Galician Independents" wore German uniforms, ranks, shot at Soviet soldiers and killed civilians. In such a situation, it would be very strange to expect a different reaction from any head of state, be it drunk Churchill or Roosevelt. Do you think Joseph Vissarionovich is so great that he was able to "convince the Ukrainians that they are Soviet"? Even Kashpirovsky and Messing only dreamed of such a gift of persuasion.

                In September 1939, the USSR, in accordance with the Soviet-German treaty, annexed the territory of Zap. From Poland. Ukraine, Zap. Belorussia and Vilna with the surrounding district.

                But do not recall how these territories fell into Poland? Not? Well then, I will remind. In 1919 Poland occupied Galicia (previously it was in Austria-Hungary), in 1920 and 1921 it occupied Western Ukraine and Western Belarus. However, in the summer of 1939, something went wrong.

                The USSR refused territorial conquests in Poland in 1939 (Maisky-Sikorsky Pact). Otherwise, the Anglo-Saxons did not accept the USSR into the Anti-Hitler coalition.

                Are you sure it was that way? How do you like this information?

                The British government put pressure on Sikorsky’s cabinet, because it did not hide its intention to establish, at least at that time, cooperation with the USSR in the war against Germany. On July 15, during a meeting at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, British Foreign Minister A. Eden directly stated to Sikorsky and A. Zalessky, who accompanied him: "Do you want, gentlemen, or you do not want, and an agreement with the Soviet Union must be signed."

                https://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/1334467

                If this source is not satisfied, I can easily pick up several alternative ones with identical information.
                Can you support your claims with something? Or is it again just your personal point of view on history?

                The question is what the Russians would choose - the Kaliningrad region as part of Russia is several times larger than the current one, or Galicia and Volyn as part of Ukraine, Zap. Belarus as a part of Belarus, and Vilna with a district as part of Lithuania? I think the answer is obvious.

                Exactly - you think, and the answer is not obvious. Fortunately, I don’t see any reason to guess on the coffee grounds. No one made the difference between the Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians, it was one country and all were equal.

                So, the opponents of Galicia in the USSR were not as bad as it seems at first glance.

                And who are these mysterious “opponents”? You will not name names? And what did they resist?

                Probably, all individuals of the near mind are bold on the Internet.

                You know better.

                Anglo-Saxons took the USSR under their wing.

                What was it expressed and how exactly did it not allow Germany to triumph over the USSR?

                They accepted it not just like that, but with mercenary goals (they later cost the population of the USSR 20% of the pre-war population only direct losses).

                It is not clear what you mean. Please express yourself more clearly.

                But Dzhugashvili didn’t really care.

                Very controversial statement. He personally told you, or can you indicate the source of information?
                Very similar to your next fantasy.

                What are you going to convince? A set of funny shovels snot? So I have known them for decades. Back in Scoop, like everyone else, he memorized it. And then he laughed at them (and I’m far from alone), “because all that "argumentation" is meant for people of a very narrow mind. And sewn with frank white thread.

                You are not only ignorant, but you also have the audacity to call millions of people “near-minded”.
                Did you laugh not alone? Were you two? What is the name of your like-minded person, please.
                I very much hope that your objections will be justified at least somewhat, except for your personal opinion, otherwise the discussion loses all meaning. To argue with a man who, in spite of everything, just insists on his “wet” fantasies, this is already from the field of psychiatry. This is no longer for me.
                1. Savigne Offline
                  Savigne 25 September 2019 10: 44
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                  Does this somehow change the essence of the matter? But the point is that no one measures economic power with assets, clean or dirty, or any other. ”

                  The worst part is that you, even looking at the book, see a fig. Those. you don’t understand what it is about.

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                  For example, an economic forum is taking place, serious people gather, heads of state, discussing GDP.

                  There are few truly serious people in the world. And they live in only one country (mostly). And those with whom they discuss GDP are, most often, not those serious people who are actually serious.
                  As for the GDP itself, it is also an economic indicator. Only not the most important.

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                  By reference, a short article about his imprisonment.

                  And why do I need a reference to Bandera’s release?
                  Sitting in a concentration camp?
                  I sat.
                  Why else links? Looking for spots in the sun? Or do you leave a shadow on the fence?
                  Why is Bandera so focused at all? I clearly wrote to you that by exchanging a huge chunk of East Prussia for Galicia, Dzhugashvili presented modern Russia with two main problems:
                  1. The Kaliningrad region of Russia lost an area approximately equal to the area of ​​Galicia.
                  2. Galicians artificially called "Western Ukrainians" and cut to the Ukrainian SSR after the war, in 2014 torn off ALL Ukraine from Russia.
                  And he told me about some Bandera Taldychit, which is not worth a special mention.

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                  These "Galician independence" wore German uniforms, ranks, shot at Soviet soldiers and killed civilians.

                  Do you even understand what was going on? Or decided, as usual, to distort?

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                  But do not recall how these territories fell into Poland?

                  Who cares?
                  These territories were part of Poland on the basis of international treaties. Those. legally. And the point.

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                  Can you support your claims with something?

                  You, as usual, distort. In the text of the Maysky-Sikorsky agreement, it is written in black and white:
                  p.1, first line:

                  The government of the USSR recognizes the Soviet-German 1939 treaties regarding territorial changes in Poland expired.

                  The USSR had annexed lands in Poland only with the Reich. And on July 30, 1941, he lost power. Consequently, the Polish lands annexed by the USSR in 1939 were returned to Poland (Poland never recognized this annexation). But since by that time they had been occupied by the Reich, they were returned only on paper. And in 1945, in Yalta, it was decided to return their USSR by exchanging them with Poland for the lands of Germany annexed to the USSR. Which happened legally after the war.
                  Learn history, come in handy. And stop juggling the facts.

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                  No one made the difference between the Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians, it was one country and all were equal.

                  Did and do.

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                  What was it expressed and how exactly did it not allow Germany to triumph over the USSR?

                  Do you think that at the end of June 1941 the Bolsheviks began to knock on the Anglo-Saxons out of pure entertainment?
                  What did Dzhugashvili agree with the Anglo-Saxons on the USSR’s contribution to the TOTAL victory, as 1/3, is it just that?
                  If you do not know the obvious and elementary, then why should I teach you these basics?

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                  It is not clear what you mean.

                  The fact that half of you are "not entirely clear", and the second half you generally "firmly know" from fairy tales, I understand for a long time.

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                  Very controversial statement. He personally told you, or can you indicate the source of information?

                  Look what he did in the 30s in the USSR. Man-made famines, mass repressions, executions. About 1 million people were shot. Do you think that in the 40s he was reforged? You are mistaken. And his post-war behavior is proof of this.

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                  ... but you also have the arrogance of millions of people "near ...

                  Should I call them distant? Far from what? From understanding the essence of the events around them?

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                  Argue with a man ...

                  I do not argue with you. I tried to explain to you the elementary basics of political economy, social science and history. The fact that where there is no "the best education in the world" is known from childhood.
                  I don’t know, maybe that's why they live well there. What they teach right from childhood to the things necessary and useful. And do not waste time learning to memorize the next set of various kinds of fairy tales and fables. And from this, these children, growing up, immediately begin to live in real reality, and not in a parallel world, like the Soviet ones.
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                    123 (123) 25 September 2019 22: 22
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                    The worst part is that you, even looking at the book, see a fig. Those. you don’t understand what it is about.

                    As for the GDP itself, it is also an economic indicator. Only not the most important.

                    What does your confidence rest on, what exactly this indicator is “the most important”? Who told you that? Understand, finally, that not everything in this world depends on what value is listed on the exchange overseas.
                    Why do you think economic indicators are needed?
                    In my opinion, this is a tool for assessing the real state of the economy. Having an idea of ​​the real state of affairs, it is possible to adjust economic policy, predict further development, the occurrence of possible problems, and take measures to prevent them.
                    The technique you proposed does not allow you to do any of the above. For whom, then, is she needed? For your "serious people living in one country"? What would they feel really great?

                    We are the greatest, we have a lot of money, and if something goes wrong, we will simply overestimate the assets and we will have even more money.

                    Can you imagine that?
                    Remember your example in Ukraine, where assets were simply recounted and 15% growth appeared? It turns out that there is no need to do anything in the economy, just reevaluating is enough - and that's all right.
                    Actual production is the basis, without which all these “asset values” are simply transformed into numbers on a computer. They are secondary, in this case they are a superstructure.
                    In the modern world, a country cannot exist, having only finances, at any moment you may simply not be sold the necessary products, as they do with Russia and not only now.
                    Without a developed real sector of the economy, sovereignty is impossible. The country should be able to provide itself with basic food, basic necessities, ensure security, and develop technology. You can’t buy everything for money. Remember Gaddafi? He had plenty of money, but at one point, something went wrong. Did the money help him? Saudi Arabia, even more money, life is beautiful and amazing, but at one point, drones and 50% of the economy fly to dust. Did the availability of money and financial assets help them somehow? By the way, these "stupid" Bedouins rushed to restore the equipment. Why don't they just overestimate the assets?
                    Remember, I tried to explain to you that Russian assets are underestimated? You answered that they cost exactly as much as you are willing to pay for them. In my opinion, you underestimate this problem.
                    I came across the data voiced by Die Welt (if you want a reference, I'll throw it):

                    ... Russian stocks are now inexpensive. “The rating is very low, the price to income ratio is now at an average of around five,” the expert says. Thus, the annual profit corresponds to one fifth of the total value of the company. In the Dax index, this ratio is now at one to 14.

                    It freed me from having to search and rummage through boring stock data. I think they will find a fulcrum.
                    It turns out something like this: I have, say, a candle factory, in a year it brings me 1 ruble of profit (don’t find fault with the numbers, arbitrary), the neighbor has the same factory, and the same profit. And you estimate their value, only my small factory was estimated at 5 rubles, and the neighbor's at 14. This implies the following questions. If my factory is my profit, then what do I care about your assessment and how much does it reflect the real situation? But, if I suddenly decided to sell the factory or issue shares, then a problem arises. It is estimated that it is 3 times lower than the neighbor. And this situation is not only with my factory. It follows that, firstly, the assessment is unfair and does not reflect the real situation, and not everyone is happy. Therefore, the system remains stable only as long as all market participants agree to tolerate this state of affairs and are not able to change anything. If we (dissatisfied with the assessment) are not so much dependent on you, we are able to unite and create our own assessment system. In this case, it remains for you to tell how “great and serious” you are, and if you cannot interfere with our neighbors, then inflate as much as you like. That is how events in the world are developing now, slowly, with a creak, but everything is going in this direction. Russia and China are slowly creating an alternative system, and “serious people” are pouting and pretending that they still manage everything. And only “silly” Trump is trying to drag the real production back from China, he, the narrow-minded, does not believe in the “sacred magic” of revaluing assets.
                    1. 123 Offline
                      123 (123) 25 September 2019 22: 23
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                      But do not recall how these territories fell into Poland?
                      Who cares?
                      I have always been struck by the manner of some to lead the discussion. He’s talking about Ivan, and he’s talking about you idiot.
                      These territories were part of Poland on the basis of international treaties. Those. legally. And the point.

                      And the consolidation of the current state of affairs in international treaties is still valid.
                      But in this case, such an answer does not suit you, double standards?

                      Can you support your claims with something?

                      You, as usual, distort. In the text of the Maysky-Sikorsky treaty, it is written in black and white.

                      The Government of the USSR recognizes the 1939 Soviet-German treaties regarding territorial changes in Poland as null and void.

                      You do not understand the question? Let me remind you of what was said:

                      And in July 1941, the USSR refused territorial conquests in Poland in 1939 (Maisky-Sikorsky pact). Otherwise, the Anglo-Saxons did not accept the USSR into the Anti-Hitler coalition. And without this, Dzhugashvili had no choice but to blame the Volga and the Northern Dvina and continue to "develop socialism" already there.

                      I gave you a quote with a link to the source, which says:

                      The British government put pressure on Sikorsky’s cabinet, because it did not hide its intention to establish, at least at that time, cooperation with the USSR in the war against Germany. On July 15, during a meeting at the Foreign Ministry, British Foreign Minister A. Eden bluntly told Sikorsky and A. Zalessky, who accompanied him: “Do you want, gentlemen, or you don’t want, and an agreement with the Soviet Union must be signed.

                      It follows that the British government put pressure on the Poles. Where is the pressure on Stalin?
                      How is this consistent with:

                      Otherwise, the Anglo-Saxons did not accept the USSR into the Anti-Hitler coalition. And without this, Dzhugashvili had no choice but to blame the Volga and the Northern Dvina and continue to "develop socialism" already there?

                      What sources is this statement based on?
                      This is me about juggling ... ..

                      Why else links? Looking for spots in the sun? Or are you putting a shadow on the fence? ” “Why is Bandera so focused at all?

                      But where can I look for the shadow of a “spot in the sun". You made an angel out of him. He sat, but again, not as you say, the whole war, but from 1942 to 1944. But how he sat and how he went out - this just says a lot. Vlasov, for example, also sat in the camp. You still look at the link, it will not take much time. Not everyone felt so at ease in concentration camps.

                      I clearly wrote to you that by exchanging a huge chunk of East Prussia for Galicia, Dzhugashvili presented modern Russia with two main problems: 1. The Kaliningrad region of Russia lost an area approximately equal to that of Galicia.

                      The Kaliningrad region could not lose part of the territory, then it simply did not exist. It did not include all of East Prussia.
                      2. Galicians artificially called "Western Ukrainians" and cut to the Ukrainian SSR after the war, in 2014 torn off ALL Ukraine from Russia.

                      Partly you are right, not Ukrainians, Russians, or, if you like, Rusyns. The term "Ukrainian" appeared later. You like to give advice to learn history, do not you remember how the Principality of Galicia-Volyn fell into Poland? However, this is a long story. In our case, the more important is the time spent in Austria-Hungary. Repression, concentration camps, shot just for the Russian language. Then the Bolsheviks with their policy of "Ukrainization". People got decent.
                      But with the assertion that they “in 2014 tore ALL Ukraine away from Russia”, I would argue.
                      Ukraine broke off in 1991 and without their efforts. If you mean that until 2014 Ukraine was oriented toward Russia, and then the “evil Galicians” came running and ruined everything, then you are mistaken.
                      With the collapse of the USSR, their "principalities" fell into the hands of the local nomenclature and they will not voluntarily give up power. All presidents, starting with Kuchma, tried to break away from Russia. There were no contradictions between ordinary people. Back in 1996, I was in Ukraine, there were not even signs of a “Maidan”. He spent a week in the village near Kovel, and he deigned to eat a torch with "Bandera".
                      It all started later and was cultivated artificially, including with the support of our “sworn partners” from the West.

                      Do you even understand what was going on? Or decided, as usual, to distort?

                      Quite the contrary, you are trying. Repressed whom? Those same "nezalezhnikov" uninhabited, the remains of the division "Galicia" and the like.
                      In your statement:

                      Something when Hitler wanted the USSR to dismember the West did not give him this.

                      In one sentence, two false statements. First, in order to dismember the country, it must first be defeated. As they did, for example, with Yugoslavia, they did it more than once with Poland.
                      You will not argue that Germany defeated the USSR?
                      Secondly, that it was the "West" that did not allow the dismemberment of the USSR. From the generally accepted concept of "West", only England and the United States were not occupied. Everyone else was cleaning Hitler's boots — both proud Poles and brave Frenchmen. I do not think that the United States entered into an alliance with the USSR from "entertainment". They had already fought with Japan, an ally of Germany, so the conclusion of an alliance with the USSR looked quite logical. Moreover, it was not up to entertainment was England, with difficulty struggling against the Germans.

                      What did Dzhugashvili agree with the Anglo-Saxons on the USSR’s contribution to the TOTAL victory, as 1/3, is it just that?

                      No, not just. There was a war, a coalition of three countries defeated, and at the insistence of Stalin, France was included among the winners.
                      What does it mean yours "agreed with the Anglo-Saxons the contribution of the USSR to the TOTAL victory, as 1/3", if possible - decipher.
                      Apparently, you think that without the help of the USA and England, the USSR would have lost the war? You can argue hoarsely who made any contribution to the victory. But to argue that one USSR would not have won is incorrect.
                      These are all hypothetical conclusions that do not have real prerequisites.
                      Therefore, the statements - “took under the wing”, “did not allow to dismember” - tell your grandmother.
                      "The fact that half of you are" not entirely clear ", and the second half you generally" firmly know "from the scoop tales, I have understood for a long time."
                      And what can be understood from the phrase:

                      They accepted it not just like that, but with mercenary goals (they later cost the population of the USSR 20% of the pre-war population only direct losses).

                      You are talking about “taken under the wing”, which, however, you’ve already taken apart.
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                  A.Lex (Secret information) 1 October 2019 08: 12
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                  Well, that revealed its true essence - the justification of the Nazi slanderer. ... oranges are definitely contraindicated for him. laughing
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        King3214 (Sergius) 27 September 2019 18: 40
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        The entire current EU took part (troops and equipment) in a military campaign against the USSR, with the exception of England.
        What do you mean by the propaganda cliche - "West"?
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          Savigne 1 October 2019 22: 44
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          Quote: King3214
          The entire current EU took part (troops and equipment) in a military campaign against the USSR, with the exception of England.

          Actually, the "whole current EU" consisted of Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Finland, Romania, Hungary and, to some extent, Italy (expeditionary force).
          Do not you find that for the "whole EU" it doesn’t work out enough?
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      Savigne 23 September 2019 20: 50
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      Quote: lyubomir.mirolyubov
      The West sleeps all its life and sees the collapse of Russia.

      How do you feel?
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        Astronaut (San Sanych) 24 September 2019 01: 24
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        These trolls will be handed over to the slaughter first of all, so don’t really try laughing
  3. steelmaker Online
    steelmaker 23 September 2019 09: 25
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    This is another European PR for Putin. According to Delyagin, during the reign of Putin, $ 2 trillion was exported from Russia. And Putin and Europe are quite happy with Europe and the USA. It is in Russia that many began to change their views, especially after the pension reform. Everything that is said in the article, the same was said in one form or another by Kudrin, Chubais, Oreshkin, Siluanov, Medvedev. And since they still "rule," then Putin is happy with everything !! Russia in the Euro Parliament is needed only in order to teach life and pay money for its maintenance!
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    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 23 September 2019 09: 40
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    Again the same thing ... They also said a year ago, and 2, and 3, and 5 ...

    Each ambassador is a genius of the orange revolutions, each oppositionist is an agent of the State Department, a crest and an iPhone player at the same time, each clown Kasparov is a genius of the domestication of Putin ....

    year taken from the ceiling, silent about real problems, strange name ...
    Maybe stop stealing for a start?
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 23 September 2019 20: 45
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      Give it a try. You can live without theft.
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        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 24 September 2019 09: 07
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        Already, and for a long time ....
  5. Bulanov Online
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 23 September 2019 11: 03
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    Most of all, Russia is threatened by officials from the 5th column, punching thoughtless decisions, causing loss to the treasury and angry people. First you need to revive Gosplan so that there are no thoughtless decisions.
    1. Savigne Offline
      Savigne 24 September 2019 10: 10
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      Quote: Bulanov
      First, you need to revive the State Planning Commission so that there are no thoughtless decisions.

      Not the State Planning Commission, but the Cheka. And then everything itself will "be reborn". Queues, famines, population descent, etc. etc. And Gosplan, of course. And then, of course, another decay. And then, sobbing new scoops on a new topic. And so in a circle.
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        Come on 24 September 2019 11: 33
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        Do you see a red rim and a little green around your ava? there are so many liberalists! statistical error))) small bug and smelly))
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          Savigne 24 September 2019 12: 29
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          Quote: Daladno
          there are so many liberalists!

          After the genocide of the times of the RSFSR and then the USSR, Russians are rarely encountered even in the Russian Federation (unfortunately). But time works for us, and as society develops in Russia, there are more and more Russians. And scoops (both species) are less and less.
          Scientifically, this is called the development of civilization.
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      yuratanja1950 (Yuri) 24 September 2019 11: 01
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      Quote: Bulanov
      First you need to revive Gosplan so that there are no thoughtless decisions.

      I would add: and crazy "decisions" ...
      PS I get a subscription to news in the legislation ... And I have ceased to be surprised: the laws are baked - where are the pies !!!
      And involuntarily I thought - to adopt a bunch of laws in tons every week - why and who needs it ???
      After all, they, as a rule, DO NOT work !!! Yes, for the simple reason that it is impossible to keep track of their implementation !! "
  6. beeper Offline
    beeper 23 September 2019 11: 49
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    This is the target execution date of 2021, and if it succeeds, then the horns will try to razmaydanit Russia, do not even hesitate!
    What surprises me is the lack of effective Russian counter-propaganda that works not only "reactively", but preemptively - "ahead of a steam locomotive"!
    For example, a simple move to video filming of the “brutal beating of demonstrators in Moscow”, laid out by the liberal “opposition”, for visual comparisons, add frames of reprisals (really brutal, when you recall the popular trait “about the loudest thundering thief”!) Over the demonstrators in those allegedly the most “tolerant” and “democratic” of the USA, France, Germany, ... ets.
    More often it is necessary to tell and show to the Russian inhabitants the non-paralytic, anti-civil and anti-human sides of the aggressive "democracy" of the American totalitarian state, which Washington, which is obsessively claiming the laurels of a certain "democratic standard", does not advertise and hides in every possible way!
    Not Russophobian telecasts with "Ukrainian freaks" - Muscovites should have been at the Central Television Center of Russia for a long time, but truthful, unaddressed, television stories and television shows about the lawlessness and bloody atrocities that took place in Kiev, with the connivance of the Ukrainian authorities and under the supervision and participation of foreign authorities ministers (and even presidents of individual aomer puppet countries!), where, in the Ukrainian part of the Russian World, the "technologies" of unmasking Russia were being worked out, because warned, then armed!

    The Ukrainian inhabitants of the marginal sense, who, getting drunk on the generous narcotic “Maidan gull”, zombically rode on the “Euromaidan” with bloodthirsty xenophobic chants and demands for a speedy “visa-free” familiarization with the “universal values” advertised by the destruction of his bandera the country and faced with these anti-human "democratic values" disappointedly declared "But we didn’t stand on the Maidan for that!"
    My cousin, a little brother, a “come-in” Kiev resident, a pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, with his Galician wife all the time jumped out “for Euro-association and visa-free travel” to the unconstitutional “Euromaidan”, triumphantly calling relatives from there on a mobile phone, after “having overcome the Maidan,” he soon sincerely complained about it the increase in killings and crime in Kiev and denied that he jumped on the Maidan .... and, they say, generally, they, "Svidomo" Maidan, once again the tinkers deceived, as well as after the "orange Maidan-2004" ...

    So that the Russian inhabitants do not turn their backs on their Fatherland, on a tip and to the tune of Washington and its external and internal lackeys, to the Russian authorities, if they are interested in the independent and free future of Russia, it is necessary to think for themselves what they are doing wrong lessons, correct and take a constructive position in the matter of COMPREHENSIVE (including active propaganda and counter-propaganda work of all kinds and methods!) to protect the Russian Federation from the "Maidan" aggression of the United States and Common Europe, in readiness for the "hot phase" "already smoldering World War III!

    And the same thing that we see now, without telling the whole truth and twisting the true state of affairs, the burglars of the "Maidan" and responsible for their "information support (in essence, anti-Russian pro-American propaganda)", video episodes of police detention captured by smartphones of "ordinary citizens", previously identified and tracked Maidan "anizhedety" activists, provocateurs, are presented by the "opposition" in a favorable manner for themselves, as the facts of alleged "police arbitrariness and unprovoked violence", and thereby the anti-court real hysteria among those who were offended by the authorities in one way or another (not to mention the shabby little bureaucrats, stupid "macaroons," who allow themselves, in fact, mocking, statements about ordinary fellow citizens, at the very "federal level", and without becoming a byword "pension reform", there are enough such "canonical examples" of type "no money, but you hold on!" ??? ...) and looking for a way out of their negative emotions, "excited" ordinary people ?!
    By the way, undermining the authority of law enforcement officers in the eyes of local inhabitants is also one of the steps before the “Maidan” preparation of the country, which is planned for the “Maidan” neocolonization, the further, the more “resonant” provocations against the defenders of the Law and Law and Order will be arranged!

    The enemies of the Russian World (and its last post-Soviet stronghold-Russia) remember very well that the mighty and super-armed power-the Soviet Union was destroyed by corrupt liberal Judas in power, also from the inside and was served by the Badies on a "silver platter" to American neo-colonizers (their complacency achieved and Putin’s patriotic judo-phenomenon with vehement foes played a cruel joke-hunting prey, half-dead “lying in his pocket”, from there, bleeding and losing parts of his body, managed to jump out and come to life, gaining sya forces and get new teeth to replace lost!) ....
    The powerful military potential and the vast nuclear arsenal of the state mean nothing (before the "maidan technologies" of the neocolonialists!) Without the conscious patriotic cohesion of the majority of law-abiding Citizens and the non-populous, Fair and Reasonable, perspectively Thinking, State Power (not temporary politicians, as it was and is us in Ukraine, the current American colony "Ukraine"!), which observes the Law, Order and Welfare of ALL citizens, who can set inspiring constructive goals and organize their achievement, is capable of th adequately and successfully respond to internal and external challenges ... and, of course, wanting and able to defend their independent state, its Fundamentals and all of his accomplishments!
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 23 September 2019 12: 05
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      I agree. It may be written too long and pathetically, but I agree. I would also add that work must be actively carried out not only inside, but also outside. Act "their" ways. Through various NGOs, rallies, festivals, forums, etc. To develop television, radio and Internet propanade, otherwise RT alone will not do much ..
      In the world, and even including countries that are commonly called the “consolidated west,” there are a fairly large number of people who do not share these so-called “modern Western values”. And you need to work with these groups. The enemy of my enemy, of course, is not yet my friend, but at least a situational ally ... Why are we only allowing ourselves to collapse from the inside, but we ourselves are not answering the same? There is plenty of soil in the "West" and the protest electorate is full ...
      And inside, inside it’s worse, like the Chinese ... Anyway, the "liberals" will dissolve snot, they will give one illegal demonstrator a head or three hundred, so there’s nothing to be embarrassed about ... Shit it still stinks, even if you stick it with your wand, at least Put the spade and throw it away ... But the second one has a clearly more tangible result.
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        beeper 23 September 2019 12: 58
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        hi So about that and the goutar, that even defense should be active, differentiated and personified — you don’t need to give the initiative to enemies anywhere, but it’s worth working with the "reference" ill-wishers "precisely"! yes
        I don’t understand why preventive methods are not applied to any liberalistic husks, inside and outside the cordon ?!
        Yes, at least in the form of an individual explanatory conversation, foreigners embittered against Russia and restless, anti-Russian, all kinds of emigrants, they are not completely hopelessly stupid little people, should they understand everything correctly ?!
        I would kindly talk to them, let them talk out, tell my Russian interlocutor, a state psychologist (call this unit in the FSB-the international service of state psychologists-MSHP ?!) what and who offended them in Russia, why did they suddenly such anger arose that they were gnawing, maybe the horns promised them money or a residence permit, they demanded their loyalty to the host country in such a negative way, it would be necessary to individually examine the place and find a mutual decision on " Spot metering "end to destructive activities. I think that such "restless" people, foreigners and ours, will certainly listen to the practical advice of experienced psychologists and will gratefully accept such global care and all-pervasive attention from the Russian state ?!
        And even the small "Maidan workers" - hooligans and other destructive elements, if they "truncate" it, either demonstrated in the media, or in the OBS (which arouses much more trust in these than the official media!), Such increased "individual attention" to even far beyond the cordons of Russia, they themselves will “think for themselves ten times”, and they will order their friends to find something more interesting, since Maidan bothering is “not trendy” with the state and is too expensive — it will not be paid off by any State Department "cookies" and doubtful satisfaction Corollary of "Maidan tea" with methamphetamine ?!
        According to the Central Committee of the Russian Federation, it would be possible for ordinary people, using the money and time saved from the current depressing Pro-Bandera anti-Russian television programs, to demonstrate informative and creatively designed positive television programs about the benefits of constructive activity and the harm of pro-American "high-tech technologies" for the life and health of Russian citizens ?!
  7. Wooh Offline
    Wooh (Barmaley) 23 September 2019 12: 37
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    Maidan in Moscow has already been appointed

    Year 1917: A sailor runs, a soldier runs, shoot on the go. A worker drags a machine gun ...
    Year 2019: Riot police flee, special forces run, shoot on the go. Oh, how you were missing in the seventeenth year! soldier
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      Pishenkov (Alexey) 23 September 2019 13: 03
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      ... and at 91 or, at worst, 93 would be enough if we ran in time and did what we needed ...
      And in 2019, sometimes it wouldn’t hurt to shoot at this shit ... otherwise everyone will clatter with them ... The Tsar won in 1917, too, clinging to terrorists and traitors, either the link or the exile ... I didn’t put them all right on the wall so for such kindness they put him to her ...
      One needs to learn from history so as not to step on the same rake in 100 years ...
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      kot711 (vov) 23 September 2019 16: 58
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      Oh, how you were missing in the seventeenth year!

      do you think french rolls would crunch? would be a wretched or petty swindler or a boy on the premises.
  8. Alexander Bushkovsky (Alexander) 23 September 2019 13: 02
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    It is clear that they are in a hurry while Putin is in power. The rehearsal of election provocations to the Moscow City Duma showed them that Putin is liberal and incapable of tough and radical measures against “protesters” like Yanukovych, talking about the constitution and so on. It’s better for him to lose the whole country than to crush several thousand ghouls - the henchmen of the “united
    West. "
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    valeriy7 (Valery) 23 September 2019 13: 32
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    Yesterday it was necessary to begin to cleanse the political field from all sorts of internal and external NGOs, the fifth column and agents of influence, at least in the state. apparatus.
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    nesvobodnaja (Unfree Press) 23 September 2019 15: 28
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    But why was this Handsman not charged with "interfering in the elections" - the most beloved in the West ???
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    kriten (Vladimir) 23 September 2019 18: 09
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    The fifth column is guarded and financed by the Kremlin itself. Apparently the logic here is simple, after us at least a flood. We have everything, we do not need anything. If only there was no condemnation of the West .... because they then live there.
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      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 23 September 2019 20: 27
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      And then there is no need for "outside interference" - if everything goes the same further, as things are now, according to the link below, then by 2021 the people may simply have patience ....
      http://realtribune.ru/news/economics/2770?utm_source=finobzor.ru
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    Savigne 23 September 2019 20: 47
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    "Maidan" in Moscow has already been appointed

    1. The author probably doesn’t know what Maidan was in Kiev.
    2. An analogue of the Maidan in Kiev cannot be assigned. In order for it to happen, subjective and objective prerequisites are needed. According to my observations, there are no such prerequisites in Russia, and by 2021 they will lie.

    Just Europe (and not only it) once again goes to Russia.

    And what, once went before?

    The malacholous “figures” gathered there not only adopted a resolution condemning “Stalinism, Nazism, and other authoritarian and totalitarian regimes” (at the same time, mind you, almost for the first time our country was mentioned not just that, but before the Third Reich )

    Well, the tantrums of scoops on the topic "offended the USSR" are of little interest to Russians. Stalinism has nothing to do with Russia and the Russians (unless Russia and the Russians should be recognized as the main victims of it). Why not support the resolution?
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    The author again confused Russia with either the USSR. either with the RSFSR.
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    Vkd dvk (Victor) 23 September 2019 23: 36
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    Learn the history of Savigne. At least go through the dates.

    This ........ does not know how. His letters were not taught. And here he prints according to the instructions in the pictures. Almost the whole West tried to destroy the USSR. Hitler's "winners" the frog-eaters did not fight in the Resistance, but at Stalingrad.
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      Savigne 24 September 2019 00: 25
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      Almost the whole West tried to destroy the USSR.

      Another victim of "the best education in the world"?
      It looks like it.
      Just in case, I inform you that during the war years the USSR was a member of the Anti-Hitler coalition. Members of which were 53 states of the world. Those. 52 states of the world, among other things, fit in with the USSR, preventing Germany from dismembering it.

      Quote: wkd dvk
      Hitler's "winners" the frog-eaters did not fight in the Resistance, but at Stalingrad.

      1. Frog-eaters, who is this? Your parents? Or children?
      Unpleasant, right?
      So the French are also unpleasant.
      By the way, frogs are eaten by people of many nations around the world and on all continents.
      2. The French fought with the Germans from September 1939. Just at the time when the USSR and Germany "fraternally" pulled Poland and held parades in Brest.
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        beeper 24 September 2019 04: 37
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        Well, Savigne, a difficult case with you — you are a clear victim of the “worst education” and clip thinking — there is militant anti-Sovietism, direct cheating, juggling, “omissions” and, through it, adherence to hypocritical double standards ?! request winked

        For example (although, by the way, I also disagree with the emotional definition of "nonsense-Bulgarians" - an example of the cordial attitude of Bulgarian old people from the village near Varna to us, completely unfamiliar to them, Soviet tourists who had a traffic accident, as well as the sincere and friendly attitude of some, I accidentally met in Plovdiv, Veliko Tarnovo and Sofia, from the period of socialism and CMEA, young Bulgarian residents, I always remember! Yes, and frogs, and cockleshells, my fellow villagers, in southern Ukraine, on hunger strike 20, early 30, and in the post-war 1947-49 odov also eaten by the hungry-despair, and not just the French gourmet with fat request ), For some reason, you forget that the Bulgarians also “fit (in understandable words)” for the Nazis and, together with Hitler, as part of Hitler’s Common Europe, attacked the USSR in 1941 ?!
        About the Bulgarian "non-war" against the USSR in the air and at sea, you "tell" our dead submariners, whose submarines sunk by the Bulgarian Navy and Air Force lie on the seabed near the Bulgarian coast!

        The kind Soviet power too spared the "subtle sensitivity" of the former Hitlerite henchmen, both embarked on the path of socialism and capitalist (at least the same of France and Finland), tried not to recall or remind them, very nasty examples of their complicity in the "pan-European" attack to the Soviet Union!
        And, as shown by “fresh”, but with a very rotten anti-Soviet (read anti-Russian, after all, Americans and Western Europeans usually called our Soviet Union-Soviet Russia more often!) “Ambre”, “resolution on the beginning of the Second World War” - all these were very erroneous post-war years to hush up the active participation of "pan-Europeans" in the aggressive Nazi "Drang nah Osten"!
        And about the “dividing” of Czechoslovakia by Hitlerite Germany and her faithful ally (the Polish-German treaty of 1934, solemn and informal meetings, the hatched plans of the joint Polish-German aggression against the USSR, military parades, that’s, of course, and the corresponding pictures of Polish- there is enough German alliance on the Net!) Poland-Churchill's "European hyena", with the connivance (of "conspiring" in Munich with Hitler in 1938) of England and France, you "neglect" -forget or "education costs" ?!

        The "dismemberment" - the total destruction of the Soviet Union and its multinational population was prevented - "not allowed" to be done exclusively by our Soviet Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army (RKKA) and our entire Soviet people, small to large (just now, in our factory floor, looking to the old "turner", I was just recalling a Muscovite friend, who at the Moscow aircraft factory, was still a very young teenager, because of his childhood growth, he was standing on a drawer attached to the machine, in hunger and cold, he sharpened details for the front, for our Victory ...) , not countries that have "entered "And does playing for time with the" second front "in Europe, vygadyvaya (and in this case does business with leading Nazis!) Whose ill-will take in opposition to Hitler" Obscheevropy "and our Soviet Union!
        Yes, and "separate negotiations" with the Nazis, the upcoming operation "The Unthinkable" - a joint attack by the "allies" on the Soviet Union in 1945, the post-war concealment of the Nazi bloody executioners, characterizes these "fit-in" hypocritical "partners" well!

        By the way, Savigne, did it seem to me (from your comments) or are you really somehow too anti-Soviet (and anti-Russian) “excited” ?! To me, even though I am not a Frenchman (whose feelings you obviously care more than the feelings of Russians ?!), this "also" in you is "unpleasant", alas. smile
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          Savigne 24 September 2019 11: 33
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          there is a militant anti-Sovietism

          Mercy for the compliment. It's nice when you are considered a decent person.

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          For some reason, you forget that the Bulgarians also "fit (in understandable words)" for the Nazis and, together with Hitler, as part of Hitler's "Common Europe", attacked the USSR in 1941 ?!

          Bulgaria NEVER attacked the USSR. Until 1944, embassies of the two countries worked in Moscow and Sofia. Until in 1944, the USSR from the territory of Romania attacked Bulgaria.

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          About the Bulgarian "non-war" against the USSR in the air and at sea, you "tell" our dead submariners, whose submarines sunk by the Bulgarian Navy and Air Force lie on the seabed near the Bulgarian coast!

          They are sunk in Bulgarian territorial waters. This is common practice with respect to border violators who are discovered but do not wish to surrender to the authorities of the country whose borders they violated. Peacetime practice.
          In addition, the Bulgarians did not know whose boat it was. Maybe Turkish. Or maybe someone else.

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          Good Soviet power spared the "subtle sensitivity" of former Nazi henchmen too

          And again, the victim of "the best education in the world."
          The period of "Soviet power" lasted in the USSR from 1921 to 1927. Since 1927, the period of “Soviet socialism” (ended in 1991) began in the USSR, which had little in common with the “Soviet power”.

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          at least the same France and Finland

          Respected. I will simply keep silent about the “punishment of France”. Because it just hints at your complete inadequacy.
          As for Finland, what the Anglo-Saxons allowed Dzhugashvili to do there, he did. You are not aware of the distribution of roles in that world. And it seems they believed Soviet propaganda about the "great and mighty USSR."
          No, the USSR in those years (including 1945) was a puppet of the Anglo-Saxons with its last gasp. And performed in Europe about the same role FOR THEM as China in Asia and Ethiopia in Africa.
          Since in May 1945 the USSR was still needed by the United States for landing on the Japanese islands (this was fraught with huge losses, so the Americans were not going to land there, and the Chinese seemed to be unable to), it received its share of the USSR in Europe.
          After the nuclear bombing and surrender of Japan, the Anglo-Saxons no longer needed the USSR. Therefore, in the Far East of the USSR received a hole from a donut. As, however, and the Chinese. Who were outraged by the sacrifices made by the pro-American "brilliant generalissimo Chan. And almost tore him (such a genius) into pieces for this, he had to take refuge in Taiwan under the protection of American bayonets.
          Even the Ethiopians, in response to the losses, caused the unrest of the emperor Selassie and made concessions on his part.

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          anti-Soviet (read anti-Russian

          What kind of fiction is this? What does Soviet have to do with Russian?

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          all these post-war years, hush up the active participation of "pan-Europeans" in the aggressive Nazi "Drang nah Osten"!

          You, in view of your ignorance (due to “the best education in the world”), do not understand why and why “Drang nah Osten” happened. This Drang happened contrary to the plans of the Anglo-Saxons and French. Because they planned to KEEP Germany from any actions by means of "passive armed confrontation" on the border.
          Or do you really think that they planned that Germany would attack the USSR with France and Britain on the second front?
          Then you have obvious logic problems.
          As for 1941, the USSR was the only country where the Reich could really reach. And where could he solve his problems. Because in the "battle for Britain" he was defeated and Britain was too tough for him. Therefore, he set about the USSR. Which in November 1940 refused to join the Triple Alliance and rolled out to the Germans its “counter demands”.
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            beeper 24 September 2019 13: 40
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            In principle, I knew a priori that "I feed the troll" .... wink
            You, SavIgn, have confirmed your minuscule knowledge, aspirations and limits of thinking, but I didn’t doubt you retrospectively (but it was interesting to “touch” yourself — it suddenly deceives me and you didn’t show all sides of the “talent” ?!)! yes
            You made me laugh with yours, some very childishly naive, anti-Soviet "obstinacy" and this "donut hole for the USSR in the Far East according to the WWII results" - it went like this: Port Arthur and the adjacent territories, half of Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands (behind this "public void" the Japanese, and the Japanese occupiers behind them, the Americans, still grieve and fight in wailing, trying to get themselves by any means, because they know the real price for this "hole", unlike you, SavIgn ! wink ), which went to the Soviet sphere of influence, China with Manchuria and North Korea (38 each), .... I don’t even want to write you something trivial in such cases- “learn the materiel, Savigne!”, frankly, you even slightly disappointed me with your one-sided and wretched (erased from being consumed by your "farthermen"! yes ) "Arsenal" - I still like the multifaceted and creative "trolls", but alas, this is a real rarity and you turned out to be not one of those! request
            Now I read that you still dipped below, maybe I will answer, although I do not promise.
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              Savigne 24 September 2019 14: 02
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              Port Arthur and surrounding areas

              And where is this Port Arthur? Which federal entity is included in?

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              Paul Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands

              Well, well.

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              China and Manchuria and North Korea departed into the Soviet sphere of influence (38 parallel)

              Yes Yes. I directly see what kind of "influence" the USSR had on the DPRK and the PRC. They didn’t give a damn about him. Saliva. Moreover, even during the time of Brezhnev.
              Used and thrown away. Like a condom.

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              maybe I’ll answer, although I don’t promise.

              You can not answer. Your nonsense is clear in advance. I learned it by heart even during the time of political information in the USSR.
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              It’s amazing. 21 century in the yard. A bunch of information in the public domain. But the feed is not in the horses. As they learned some mantras in the USSR, they continue to chant the same thing all the way. And no arguments and facts can break them. A totalitarian sect, it is a totalitarian sect. To break out of her paws is not given to everyone.
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                beeper 24 September 2019 15: 59
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                Nda, your confusion, SavIgn, is full- "horses, people mixed up in a heap" and you don’t see anything beyond your nose ?! smile It was about the Soviet Union in the Far East allegedly "a donut hole", and how then the Soviet leaders ordered it ... do you want to arrange a "holivarchik" ?! yes
                The influence of the USSR on the PRC and DPRK is still manifested, after many decades, these states are by no means in the orbit of the "hegemon" -USA and, thanks to this, the world is becoming multipolar!
                Even when the Soviet Union was destroyed, the Chinese Communists raised its banner! China is now an ally of the heiress of the USSR-Russia, in spite of any attempts by the American "partners" and previous confrontations!
                It is strange that with the current abundance of available information on the topic of Articles and discussions, you Savign have so poorly mastered it ?! smile
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                  Savigne 24 September 2019 17: 03
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                  It was about the Soviet Union in the Far East allegedly "a donut hole", and how then the Soviet leaders ordered it ...

                  The fact of the matter is that it "got" so that a part had already been returned. And with another part there are some problems.

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                  The influence of the USSR on the PRC and DPRK is still manifested, after many decades, these states are by no means in the orbit of the "hegemon" -USA and, thanks to this, the world is becoming multipolar!

                  Ugh, what an abomination. Scoop foreve. Better I don’t have one eye, if my neighbor doesn’t have both.
                  The USSR’s habit of piping with the USA came sideways to him, he overstrained and grunted.
                  Now they decided to force the Russian authorities to measure their piping with the United States.
                  RF is economically 0,34% of the whole world (21 place). The USA is economically 33,88% of the whole world (1st place). They will trample and not even notice. After that, the scoops will sit on the Internet of the Voronezh Democratic Republic and urge the authorities of this republic to face off with the same USA.
                  Fools lesson is not for the future.

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                  Even when the Soviet Union was destroyed,

                  It was not destroyed, it fell apart due to the fact that it rotted from the inside. Due to the non-viability of its design.

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                  China is now an ally of the heiress of the USSR-Russia

                  1. China is an ally to itself. He simply wanted to spit on the rest. Moreover, always.
                  2. Russia is not the heir to the USSR, but only its legal successor. You do not even know the basic principles. And do empty chatter.

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                  It is strange that with the current abundance of available information on the topic of Articles and discussions, you Savign have so poorly mastered it ?!

                  I'm in the know. But it’s not even given to you.
                  Do not worry, this is far from being given to everyone. All people are different and they rarely equal each other - contrary to the stupid mantras of the Bolsheviks. More or less people are equal (in their poverty) only in a primitive society, with a slave-owning OEF. Therefore, it was she who formed the basis of "Soviet socialism." Everyone there was approximately equally poor.
                  However, you do not understand this.
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                  A.Lex (Secret information) 1 October 2019 08: 26
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                  And he is one of those who do not need reliable infa. For him, his emotions and manuals of his beloved West are immutable. And the fact that he refers to the cries of the same as he speaks only about one thing - he is an ignoramus and a liar.
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          Savigne 24 September 2019 12: 16
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          The "dismemberment" - the total destruction of the Soviet Union and its multinational population was prevented - "not allowed" to be done exclusively by our Soviet Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army (RKKA) and our entire Soviet people, from small to large

          You tell this nonsense to a special doctor, and not to me. I really know the real situation. And I know why since the last days of June (!!!) 1941, the Bolsheviks began to ask under the wing of the Anglo-Saxons. But at first they refused to take them under their wing, and only after the USSR refused the 1939 conquests in Poland (the Maisky-Sikorsky pact) and the annexation of the Baltic states (they promised to hold free elections there after the war, but then they somehow forgot about it ), he was admitted to the Anti-Hitler Coalition (24.09.1941).
          Without the Anglo-Saxons, the USSR would probably not have survived until the summer of 1942. The territories held by the Bolsheviks would simply have died out from starvation. And so in the winter of 1941-42. throughout the territory controlled by the Bolsheviks reigned solid "Leningrad". Yes, and with a pitchfork and axes you won’t get much. And gunpowder, TNT, gasoline, etc. etc. the Bolsheviks were not really.
          War, this is primarily the rear. The Bolsheviks did not have a rear. But cannon fodder was in abundance (until 1943). Therefore, the Anglo-Saxons built a scheme: Soviet cannon fodder + rear abroad (mainly in the USA).
          This scheme was not new or unique. Similar schemes were built by the Anglo-Saxons in China and Ethiopia. Therefore, the Chinese and Ethiopians, here is the REAL "level" of the USSR of those years.

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          I was just remembering a Muscovite friend, who was still a very young teenager at the Moscow aircraft factory, because of his childhood growth, he was standing on a drawer attached to the machine, in the cold and hunger he sharpened details for the front, for our Victory ...

          If he hadn’t sharpened anything, he would have received coupons for the purchase of the JEWEL rations. On which it was impossible to live, it was so small. And if he did not have other breadwinners who would feed him, then he would simply die of hunger.
          Therefore, he sharpened what they say. Getting a WORK card and thus fighting for the right to live in this world. And the Bolshevik power, quite possibly, was before him a star. Like personally Dzhugashvili.
          The Bolsheviks knew how to make their citizens work for themselves. And fight for yourself. They did not know much else. But this "science" (the science of coercion) was mastered in all its subtleties. Bestial was power. The slaveholding OEF, it is the slaveholding OEF. Whatever you call her. At least by “Soviet socialism”, even more so.
          In general, in the territories controlled by the Bolsheviks during the war years, 8,7 million people from the civilian population died. Not all of them, of course, died of starvation. But I think the majority.

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          and not the countries that “fit in” and were dragging on with the “second front” in Europe,

          In the anti-Hitler coalition, each country had its own role. The role of cannon fodder in Europe was assigned to the USSR. And nobody wanted to beat off this role from the USSR and did not beat it off.

          And the Bolsheviks and Dzhugashvili personally signed the citizens for this role. So your claim is not addressed.

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          and at the same time doing business with the Nazis!)

          And this is generally arrogant lies.

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          Whose will take in the fierce confrontation of Hitler's "Common Europe" and our Soviet Union!

          What else is the "Common Europe"? Germany with Italy and a couple of little things, is it a "Common Europe"? You are clearly raving.
          In addition, the Britons declared war on this "Europe" in September 1939, and the United States (hybrid) in March 1941. At the same time that the USSR called the war of the West with Germany criminal. Ah ah ah. The bourgeois villains encroached on the Nazi brothers (find the file for the Pravda newspaper for those years).
          You are very, very poorly educated. In fact, apart from a set of stupid and easily refuted agitation, you know nothing.

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          the upcoming operation "The Unthinkable" - a joint attack by the "allies" on the Soviet Union in 1945 with the Nazis

          Has the roof gone completely?
          It looks like it.

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          post-war harboring of Nazi blood executioners

          Which ones? Can you give examples?

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          Frenchman (whose feelings clearly concern you more than the feelings of Russians ?!)

          I am Russian, and most of all, of course, I care about the needs and aspirations of Russians.
          It is simple to understand the attitude of Russians towards the Bolsheviks, who belonged to Russians and did with Russians about what the Nazis did with Jews. Tracing the attitude of Jews towards the Nazis and Nazism. Of course, the Bolsheviks in Russians evoke about the same feelings as the Nazis in Jews.
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            beeper 24 September 2019 14: 42
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            Yeah, it's still sadder here yes -It feels like you, SavIgn, completely lose control over yourself and emotionally write anyhow a miserable general knowledge of history (we’re talking about the latest, I can’t judge about your knowledge of the history of the Middle Ages and the ancient world, but you have obvious problems and absolutely there is no holistic vision, some kind of continuous anti "Bolshevik" pro-Western "obstinacy" completely blinds you and does not allow you to soberly look at things, events, in their interconnection and mutual influence) and its facts, even well-known ?! request
            I see that it’s useless to “go into details” if you just include Germany and Italy as part of Hitler’s Common Europe, and even Czechoslovakia, which forged weapons for the Hitler Reich, might be considered a "couple of little things", not counting all the other Hitler henchmen, Yes, the same "poor and miserable" pro-Hitler Poland, on the streets of Polish cities, villages and in numerous concentration camps, famously destroying Jews and other non-Polish Ukrainians and Belarusians, including, under the mock of WWII, achieving its post-war "mono-ethnicity "....
            By virtual communication with you, SavIgn, I am satisfied — I saw your “framework” and “limits” of knowledge, the template methods of “trolling” and how you quickly lose your temper, and I realized for myself your low “intellectual potential” as an anti-Russian “troll” ", a kind of" enemy of the Bolsheviks ", dressing up under the alleged" Russian patriot "! wassat
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              Savigne 24 September 2019 17: 11
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              and even Czechoslovakia, with might and main forged weapons for the Nazi Reich

              Learn the story, Pishchak. Slovakia was a completely independent state in those days (as it is now) and Czechoslovakia simply did not exist.

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              pro-Hitler Poland

              As for pro-Hitler Poland, this is, of course, excellent lies. But Poland does not interest me at all.

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              Well, I realized for myself

              I don’t think so. You will not succeed.

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              disguised as a supposedly "Russian patriot"!

              Why is this? I am a real Russian patriot. There are not very many such people even in Russia. With the development of Russian society (Tatars, Bashkirs, etc.) in Russia will become more and more. And, again I repeat, this is called the development of human civilization (progress in the development of society). Substitution of some sections of the population (backward) by representatives of other, more developed layers of the population. Which sections of the population are less, and which sections of the population are more developed, see the textbook on classical political economy.
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                beeper 26 September 2019 14: 29
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                It’s clear, SavIgn, before that, by all your indications, “thinking patterns” and speech markers, they called themselves “the daughters of a Russian officer”, and now, you, the “new” nickname was chosen as the “real Russian patriot”, oh? ! wink
                Well, yes, in Ukraine we already went through this, all sorts of pro-Western sellers also call themselves “real Ukrainian patriots” and “patriotically” sold Ukraine to Americans for a bag of “cookies”, not even “for a basket of cookies and a barrel of jam” ... You Isn’t it, SavIgn, because the whole trick is the same, the "patriotic" ameroholism is already rushing like that of the Bandera Nazis ?! yes
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                Dai kena (Dai Kena) 27 September 2019 05: 48
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                I am a real Russian patriot.

                - Another "Gus patgiot", and a "daughter-officer" on a bait at a lousy pendo embassy ...
                At the age of 21, our pend- “friendships” have planned another swamp gathering of such sent-out “patriots” ...
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            Dai kena (Dai Kena) 27 September 2019 05: 51
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            So, around the world, legions of dog-fed Washington legions and the same canine media are trying to falsify history, and pour mud on the USSR, which broke the ridge of all-Western Nazism.
            They work hard! Western "friends" do not regret all this green garbage.
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        Carabas (Aric Baldwin) 24 September 2019 13: 42
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        They fought for a whole month. Then the croissants ended and the frogs raised their paws!
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    topograf (topograf) 24 September 2019 03: 27
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    No pasarán! am angry
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    Dzafdet (Sergei) 24 September 2019 09: 43
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    Author, Failure. Corruption has reached such proportions that the economy is already stagnating. We need to change all power in order to move on. First of all, to reduce the state apparatus, the number of deputies in the Duma and the Federation Council. Maintain a 40% income tax on large incomes. It is necessary to revive industry and agriculture ... There are many cases ... And urgently disperse the Medvedev government ..
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      Dai kena (Dai Kena) 27 September 2019 05: 39
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      In agriculture, Russia has long been in first place in the world. Change your Soros training manual.
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    marineri (Vlad Ivanov) 24 September 2019 10: 12
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    About the "fifth column" found on the Internet

    They hide behind a "critical look at history." At first they will say that there were no Panfilov’s, Kosmodemyanskaya was mentally ill, Matrosov stumbled, Gastello's plane crashed. Then they will say that the Wehrmacht was bombarded with corpses and, supposedly, a mass betrayal.
    Then they will talk about "millions of raped Germans," about the fact that the Vlasovites were good guys and fought against the occupation by the Soviet army of Europe. They work like a virus. They are trying to break through our immunity, infect us with doubt and convince us that we and our history are complete shameful shit that we must certainly be ashamed of.
    They are cunning and dodgy. They will use the entire arsenal of meanness and abomination.
    The main thing to remember is that the virus always invades the body in order to kill it. Their goal is the same - to kill our memory, our history, and by killing them, to kill us.
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      Savigne 24 September 2019 17: 45
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      Gastello's plane crashed.

      Gastello’s plane did not fall on the road or near it. Not far from the German column fell (it’s not entirely clear whether he was sent there by a pilot who missed) pilot Maslov’s plane. His remains are also found in the "grave of Gastello" opened in the 50s).
      Gastello himself from his plane allegedly jumped with a parachute (one person jumped, but who, Burdenyuk or Gastello, is unknown; although they jumped from the wing, and the navigator, Burdenyuk, could not jump from the wing) and his further fate is unknown.
      There was a confusion with the names. These are well-known facts.

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      They work like a virus. They are trying to break through our immunity, infect us
      doubt and convince us that we and our history are complete shameful shit, which we must certainly be ashamed of.
      They are cunning and dodgy. They will use the entire arsenal of meanness and abomination.
      The main thing to remember is that the virus always invades the body in order to kill it. Their goal is the same - to kill our memory, our history, and by killing them, to kill us.

      A description of how antibiotics (called the "virus") try to heal a sick body and destroy the infection (called the "body").
      The totalitarian sect of "witnesses of socialism" of pure water. Even the vocabulary is the same.
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        Dai kena (Dai Kena) 27 September 2019 05: 37
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        And here is a typical representative of this virus. He imagines himself to be an antibiotic, working out Soros slops in a bowl at the pendo embassy.
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    Verkhomnapule (OLEG) 24 September 2019 10: 22
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    blood am own choke !!!
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    Roarv (Robert) 24 September 2019 10: 52
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    The author learn to match. Where else the West will find such managers Gref, Chubais, Shuvalov, etc. investing all their money in offshore and western banks and bonds?
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    yuratanja1950 (Yuri) 24 September 2019 10: 54
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    The question is different - will Russia be ready for the coming storm on it?

    Hmm ... The question, of course, is interesting ...
    The fact that someone (that's it - someone) Garry Kasparov tryndit about the dissatisfied in Russia - so he and his Russian friends in the kitchen tryndit ... THEY are far from the people of Russia ....
    These pickets, demonstrations ... Look - how many there are, and, most importantly - WHO is present at most of them ...
    I do not think that the bulk of the peoples of Russia will be for bringing to power Uncle Sam's proteges ...
    Here, most importantly, let the President monitor the Duma, the Government and his closest associates ... hi
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      beeper 24 September 2019 15: 25
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      Yuratanja1950, the majority of the population of multinational Ukraine was also against bringing to power Uncle Sam’s proteges and what came of it, how did it happen ??!
      "Who's guilty?" and "What to do?"
      Learn from our mistakes and draw the right conclusions before it’s too late!
      The fish rots from the head, and the Soviet Union and the post-Soviet republics, from the "mega-mercantile" unprincipled "cosmopolitan" -memaro-puppet klepto "elitists" in power!
      Only the Russian Federation (the Republic of Belarus is already in full swing along the bitter "Ukrainian path" ..., alas!), In the very last moment before the inevitable collapse, received a unique Chance to Revive and become an assembly point, Support and Protection of the MULTINATIONAL Russian World, in order to avoid forever our Ukrainian amerocolonial fate to be the unheard-of prey of "universal people"!
      Russia received this Chance only thanks to the Patriotic Phenomenon of Vladimir Putin, no wonder it was he, no matter how you twist and no matter how you call him, now forever on the tablets of Russian History, in the areopagus of Russian Heroes of all time, and therefore the highest priority " goal number one "for the attack-intrigues of the" general people "and their henchmen!
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        Dai kena (Dai Kena) 27 September 2019 05: 35
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        We can handle it. And get you out! Russia in its history, and not such stinking reptiles crushed. Crush all these pendo-common-people to hell with dogs. I'm sure.
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    bibiboker (bibiboker j) 24 September 2019 12: 48
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    Money that is withdrawn from Russia has a criminal basis. It is displayed really a lot. In the West they know this. Banks (not only banks) do not want to work with such money, but they are forced to, because such a crime is legitimate in our country, which means that Westerners, with a squeaky heart, are forced to work. But they well understand that it cannot go on for so long and ultimately crime can hurt them too, and then expose and high-profile court cases. So they are looking there for someone to rely on in the future in Russia, that is, on the opposition. They need the names of the opposition and, as in ordinary business, invest in them correctly. We are not talking about any capture of Russia with the help of tanks. And no Chinese dream of capturing our oil with gas or the Americans are shopping centers in Moscow. Everything is done differently. Just a business !!!
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    Tektor (Tektor) 24 September 2019 14: 12
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    I will express seditious thought. It is clear to everyone, or to many, that puppeteers find hirelings with a draft in their heads and a simple motive to “raise dough” to radically worsen the economic situation in Russia. Which simply means the arrival of another turmoil and many human sacrifices. More specifically: hirelings come for our lives and the lives of our loved ones. And therefore, since they themselves can’t overcome this simple idea, then, in view of the current moratorium on the death penalty, I propose a decision for wrestlers with the regime of “swamp” (hybrid) methods to execute them for a referendum ... The decision of a nationwide referendum on each specific candidate should occur immediately after all legal appeals. It will be the judgment of the people.
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      bibiboker (bibiboker j) 24 September 2019 15: 03
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      I wonder where such nonsense comes to mind? where do you get this from?
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        Tektor (Tektor) 24 September 2019 16: 04
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        An eye for an eye.
        Guess where?
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      bibiboker (bibiboker j) 24 September 2019 15: 42
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      how will the people decide the fate of, for example, Abramovich? If the people decide that he is good, then live on. Most will decide that he is bad - a head off his shoulders. Good referendum.
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        Tektor (Tektor) 24 September 2019 16: 06
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        And here is Abramovich ??? I don’t understand it myself ...
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          bibiboker (bibiboker j) 24 September 2019 17: 38
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          Call "a specific candidate" and tell me by what principle you will lynch a person.
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    andrei2911 (Andrei) 25 September 2019 16: 35
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    Doesn’t it seem to the author that recently, GDP and EdRo have been doing everything possible to provoke a people to riot?
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      Dai kena (Dai Kena) 27 September 2019 05: 33
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      But doesn’t it seem to you that if it weren’t for GDP and EdRa, would the people have long hung up all these Soros saints - “rebels” in the streetlights? It’s your happiness that Uncle Vova is too kind.
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    Vkd dvk (Victor) 25 September 2019 23: 22
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    Quote: Savigne
    Quote: 123
    Do you deceive me again?

    Generally never stupid. Unlike you.

    I have no doubt that do not be stupid. This is you.
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    shinobi (Yuri) 26 September 2019 08: 32
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    They don’t know history at all. All changes in our state have always come from above. When necessary - the Kremlin acts quickly, decisively and brutally.
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    Dai kena (Dai Kena) 27 September 2019 05: 31
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    Just Europe (and not only it) once again goes to Russia. - Let, let these underdeveloped West-shaped barbarians come again. There is enough land of 2 meters for each goat.
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    Yuri Melnikov (Yuri Melnikov) 27 September 2019 15: 28
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    No need to engage in cap-making.
    There is a problem and it must be solved. It is necessary that the most inveterate unemployed or criminal at heart should be a patriot of Russia. What to do with those who have dual citizenship, not to mention triple? Who has children and money in the aggressor country? Where is the inner state pin around which the simple everyday needs of the common people revolve, and who does this people support, and for whom this people will die, as for Stalin? There are no answers to the sea of ​​questions, so that you can rest on our laurels.
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    AICO (Vyacheslav) 28 September 2019 15: 18
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    Russia must fall in 2021.

    How would you not get into your pants for these dreams !!!
  28. Nikolay Malyugin (Nikolai Malyugin) 29 September 2019 06: 39
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    It’s generally difficult to add anything here. But this is only on the pages of your publication. And in another newspaper they write that the West is moving to our side. Probably the truth is somewhere in between.
  29. Oleg Nikolaevich Chebotarev 29 September 2019 19: 16
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    No way, have thousands of Russian "elites" already prepared for vigorous activity? After all, it is no secret to anyone that it is there, in the supportive (to them) “civilized West”, that all the national wealth of the country, deduced by the comprador oligarchy for 30 years of domination in Russia, is located! Their families are also prospering there. They study and have fun, multiply and engage in profitable business. Therefore, it is a sin not to use such a potential of latent collaborationism against, in general, an absolutely alien population living in the untidy expanses of devastated Russia. Moreover, overwhelmed by the desire to strike a blow at the territory of the "civilized West". Perceived as a bloodsucker, aggressor and enemy of their homeland.

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    CCCP 2 October 2019 14: 37
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    Quote: Savigne
    Quote: lyubomir.mirolyubov
    The West sleeps all its life and sees the collapse of Russia.

    Yeah. Something when Hitler wanted to dismember the USSR, the West did not give him this.

    You, comrade Savigne, do not know the story, or do you take all for idiots?
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      alamut (A) 26 November 2019 22: 28
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      Most likely, he is from a galaxy of new electronic historians. The new Normanists are know-it-alls, bastards from marriage of fantasy novels with Holywood. Their main task is to sow doubts in the ranks of pop art and popcorn lovers with a mind as pure as the first snowfall. Basically, these ranks of new "historians" are replenished from beet and potato fields. Especially advanced Bedouins of history tell, and this is their trademark, the “Bertine Annals” and “Joseph's Letter”. They heard something from their teachers who want to change the history of Russia.
      And yes - they consider us idiots.