Patience snapped: Russia made a choice between Iran and Israel in Syria

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The attack on the oil facilities of Saudi Arabia once again intensified the confrontation in the Middle East, which has recently faded somewhat and began to turn into something sluggish and permanent. Despite the seemingly conciliatory statements made so far from Washington, the region again smelled of gunpowder, and almost stronger than in all recent times. At this difficult moment, our country, unwittingly, has to decide on the question of which side it is ready to take with this or that development of the situation.





In fact, to make a choice between the two states with which she tried until recently to maintain smooth and balanced partnerships. Iran or Israel? Certain points give reason to believe that a concrete decision in the Kremlin has already been taken. In whose favor?

Syrian Rift


Relations between Russia and Israel, which for a long time simply had no cause for mutual claims, in recent years have not only been built on the principles of mutual understanding and respect, but were, one might say, quite friendly. Moscow could “slow down” the contracts for the supply of armaments to the Arab countries that were profitable for it, or even abandon them altogether if Tel Aviv expressed concern about this. Israel, in turn, did not become a participant in the campaign launched by Washington and obligatory for all US allies on political defamation and economic pressure on our country, which began after the annexation of Crimea to Russia. A certain “special relationship” between the leaders of the two states, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and our President Vladimir Putin, played a significant role here. The leader of the Jewish state was always a welcome guest in Moscow, took part in the Victory Parades. It would seem that everything was just wonderful and the situation was returning to those times when the military of our countries (or rather, Israel and the USSR at that time) looked at each other through the sights and participated in battles against each other, it was impossible to even imagine ...

This whole idyll has been threatened since the start of the military operation conducted by our country in Syria at the request of its government. It was then that the status quo between Moscow and Tel Aviv began to undergo increasingly serious tests. And the reason here was Iran, or rather, the presence in Syria and participation in the fight against the “Islamic State” of both its regular formations and irregular groups supported by Tehran. For Israel (which is typical, not at all eager to fight with ISIS), the "Iranian question" has long ago turned into an idefix at the level of almost paranoia. Tel Aviv categorically does not intend to put up with the presence of armed representatives of the country, which they consider their enemy No. 1 in the immediate vicinity of their own border, nor, moreover, with the strengthening of the position and importance of Tehran in the region. The Israelis began to “solve the problem” in their usual manner — by regularly arranging flights, and delivering lightning strikes against objects and vehicles that they believed the Iranians used for military purposes. Everything would be fine - but the places attacked by the IDF were in Syria. Over time, the actions of the Israeli military became increasingly impudent, if not impudent. Most importantly, the interests of not only Damascus, but also Moscow, were completely ignored.

Patience burst?


In this situation, both the command of the Russian aerospace forces grouped in Syria, and even the top leadership of both our Armed Forces and the state as a whole, showed enormous, obviously incredible restraint. According to many, even excessive. For a long time, instead of forcing the Israelis to restrain their ardor with military force, Moscow followed the path of persuasion and exhortation. In 2015, a special “hot line” was created to prevent incidents, along which messages about upcoming air strikes were to be transmitted. However, IDF representatives abused this manifestation of mutual trust in the most unscrupulous way - “warnings” followed literally at the very last moment, when it was already physically impossible to take any measures not only to prevent the attack, but even to get the Russian military out of attack. . All this ended in the most tragic way - the death in September 2018 of the reconnaissance aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces Il-20 and its entire crew. The formidable “final warnings” from Moscow that followed did not particularly scare Tel Aviv. As well as the delivery of the S-300 SAM system to the Syrians that followed almost instantly, against which they objected literally with foam at the mouth. Having calmed down for some time, the vultures from the IDF, accustomed to impunity, only modified and improved the tactics of the air raids, but they did not even think of abandoning them. Moreover, in addition, they began to "try for strength" our air defense ...

Now, it seems, the Kremlin’s patience has completely snapped. No matter how much Netanyahu said at the end of his last Moscow visit that due to his personal friendship with Vladimir Vladimirovich, there could be no talk of any “clashes” between the military of the two countries in Syria, in many Western media, and, above all, in the Israeli Jerusalem Post, the exact opposite information was published. It turns out that during the negotiations with the Israeli prime minister, Putin did not warn, but threatened: another attempt to “bomb” a little object on the territory of Syria, whether Iranian or not, and the IDF made it would be shot down without any pity. And not by the Syrians, but by Russian air defense or air forces. However, from now on, the Syrian military does not prohibit hitting air raiders for defeat. Direct confirmation of the absolute reliability of this information can be considered reports of at least three Israeli air strikes already thwarted on Syria. In all cases, fighter aircraft of the Russian aerospace forces (according to some sources, the Su-35S from the Khmeimim base) rose to intercept IDF combat vehicles. All this, however, did not prevent the same Netanyahu from once again expressing that “Tel Aviv does not intend to put up with the threats emanating from Iran,” and even clarify that it is “aggression from Syrian territory.” Obviously, it still doesn’t reach.

However, judging by the results of the recent parliamentary elections, the current Prime Minister Netanyahu is already political "Yesterday" of Israel. With whom in Tel Aviv Russia will have to deal in the future, we will see. One way or another, but further "multi-vector" for our country in the Middle East is hardly possible. And, by the way, another confirmation of which side Moscow chose was the words of the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Hassan Rouhani, who recently announced that a final agreement was reached between his country and Russia, as well as Turkey and Iraq, on settlements in national currencies , using, as he said, "an alternative SWIFT payment system." In fact, in this case we can only talk about the Russian SPFS. The Iranian leader was very optimistic about this event, calling it "the beginning of a serious struggle against the dollar around the world," which should lead the United States "to weaken and lose hegemony." Well, well, if so. In any case, against the backdrop of the thickening geopolitical clouds of Russia, it is much more logical to choose allies among the "best enemies" of the United States than among their faithful vassals and satellites.
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  1. 0
    20 September 2019 09: 13
    -Yes, the "casket" just opens ... Since Israel is more and more afraid of Iran, then ... then ... then ... then less and less Israel is becoming interesting to Russia ... Well , the Israeli leader often visited Russia ... well, he takes part in various celebrations ... parades, unveiling of memorials, etc ... Well, come fly, take part ... sorry, or something ...
    - Well, then what ???
    - Well, maybe Israel can still substitute someone with a quiet glander (expose someone else’s plane to attack), it can still fire at a not-so-professional enemy from foreign territory .. devastated by a long war ...
    -Yes, Israel still succeeds ...
    - But it all began to resemble some acts of desperate ostentatious self-hypnosis to oneself; resembles attempts to somehow, at least somehow show and prove that he (Israel) is still "in shape" and that supposedly ... - he can still perform in "this heavy weight" ...
    - Meanwhile, Israel's weight is getting lighter and lighter ... - And its fear of Iran is becoming more and more noticeable ... - And the area of ​​yesterday's territorial power of Israel has already begun to narrow ... - Such is the "shagreen skin" ...
    - The time has changed ... - Israel has money; there is a well-armed, well-equipped and professionally trained army; there is a guarantee of the powerful of this world, which makes it possible for Israel to maintain its world prestige; but nevertheless, Israel began to lose credibility as the unquestioning leader in this "Arab region" ...
    - Israel "slept" and "slammed" Iran; slammed its reinforcement ... - I thought that everything would cost with bombing and periodic strikes ... - I "slept" Turkey's reinforcement ... - And for this you will have to pay very dearly ... - And very soon ...
    - In the meantime ... - this is how the Israeli leaders will now fly to Russia (one after the other) ... - in an attempt to find support ... Or, perhaps, slowly "looking out" for a place for the mass emigration of Jews to Russia .. -Hahah ...
    1. +6
      20 September 2019 10: 03
      Israel, by itself, in the "heavy weight" never could and could not and cannot, and its army is sufficient and modern exclusively within the framework of the struggle with its closest neighbors, but nothing more. Everyone considers this country only:
      a) because of the Jewish diaspora in the USA, which = the global financial oligarchy, which has been covering and financing it since its inception;
      b) because of the attitude towards the difficult fate of the Jewish people in connection with the events of the Holocaust. But at the moment, the global financial oligarchy of the United States is slowly but still beginning to lose its position, and this affects Israel. Yes, and we have relations with this "Sher Khan" are getting worse, so now we have to clatter with "Tabaka" ...
      The rest I agree.
      1. +1
        20 September 2019 10: 37
        I agree, 2006 showed everything to everyone, the Zionists do not have a normal army, and the recent aggravation on the border with Lebanon has once again confirmed this. They just urgently evacuated the base.



        black and red banners ...
      2. 0
        8 October 2019 19: 35
        Once, in a six-day war, Soviet pilots also spoke of Israel with a great deal of indulgence. What came of this, everyone knows. Today, the Russian army is quite powerful, but it would be a huge mistake to think that the Israeli army is less powerful. Yes, and motivation has been added. And more. Plus, do not forget the words of Golda Meir:

        We have one "secret" weapon - we have nowhere to retreat!

        Remember: "Moscow is behind us!" So, there is nothing behind us. Therefore, do not drive us into a corner. We are small but remote. Therefore, we do not pay special attention to threats and waving fingers. It is known all over the world that Russia maintains relations with Arab countries only because of oil. Tomorrow something will change, but for the Arabs it is easy, and everything will turn upside down. Until then, be friends. Did the Chechens cut the throats of Russian boys a little? Best friends now. Few Arabs blew up in Russia? And now friends. Such friendship always goes sideways. And only Israel estimates this realistically.
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    3. -2
      21 September 2019 15: 55
      Quote: gorenina91
      -Hahah ...

      You yourself laughed at your reasoning
      You always need to really look at the situation and it looks like this
      1 Mojtaba Zonnur said that his country is capable of destroying Israel in half an hour.
      Ahmad Karimpur, an adviser to the Iranian defense minister, said that if the country's supreme leader Ali Khamenei gives the order to destroy the state of Israel, the Iranian army must do this quickly in 8 minutes.
      You can find all these statements on the Internet.
      2 To make it easier to explain, I will give a map:


      In northern Lebanon, there is Hezbollah, which is financed and armed with Iran. It has about 130 thousand short-range missiles and about several thousand medium-range missiles.
      They cover the north and center of Israel.
      In the south, Gaza is also funded and equipped with weapons and consultants, and there are thousands of missiles that cover the south and center of Israel.
      Now Iran is trying to settle in Syria and in the Golan region to build its own bases with more modern and accurate missiles and build the traffic of these missiles to Lebanon.
      And what we have:
      North and center of Israel shells Hezbollah.
      South and Hamas Center.
      From Syria, the north and center of Israel are the IRGC.
      And Iran itself is turning on long-range missiles.
      These are those 8 or 30 minutes that Iranian politicians and the military are talking about.
      You understand that israel will not wait until this happens.
      This is what happens.
      And no matter how someone would like to drag Russia into this. it will not happen.

      The president (Putin) emphasized that Moscow would be ready to use nuclear weapons, only making sure that "someone, a potential aggressor, is striking Russia." To this end, Russia has a missile attack early warning system.

      Israel has the same system and LAW.
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        1. 0
          21 September 2019 21: 29
          Quote: Conn
          Wailing, how scary.

          And that’s right.
          There has already been the USSR and the Six Day War, and the Yom Kippur War, and Syria in 1982.
          The current leadership of Russia has a better memory.
          Remember, Israel defends its right to exist, not polytechnical intrigues!
    4. +2
      22 September 2019 09: 00
      Israel is not afraid of Iran. He constantly strikes at Iranian targets in Syria and has already begun in Iraq too. If he was afraid of Iran, he would not dare to do so. But Iran has never seriously responded to Israel’s attacks. Compare Iran’s behavior towards Saudi Arabia and Israel. It’s completely different. It seems that Iran is seriously afraid of Israel. Then what does it mean

      Israel slept through the strengthening of Iran and Turkey.

      Do not tell me, but how could he not oversleep them? He just did not oversleep and has long been fighting the Nazi regime in Iran by various methods. But Israel is militarily much stronger than Iran and Turkey. Israel's economy is also strong. He exports a lot of high-tech, the most advanced military equipment. Well, of course, an alliance with America. So, in vain do you drop Israel from the calculation of forces in the Middle East. And then, he really defends himself against the threats emanating from Iran, which is constantly threatening to destroy Israel. So, here you can’t reproach Israel. Self-defense is legal for anyone. Well, and about the emigration of Jews from Israel - it is you, Madame, who clearly wishful thinking. It’s just the opposite. Now the emigration of Jews from Russia to Israel is growing rapidly. Israel is very strong today and has won all the wars with the Arabs that they had. Even the large-scale Soviet military assistance with weapons and advisers did not help.
  2. -7
    20 September 2019 09: 19
    Bullshit. Just the day before, we agreed with Israel. The Kremlin will not throw its promised land.
    1. +7
      20 September 2019 10: 06
      It's not about throwing. It’s like with your beloved dog - you can feed, pet, but you should not let him eat right from the table and justify the legs of the bed ... laughing
      1. 0
        21 September 2019 17: 11
        Like, we weren’t allowed to piss on the bed, but they themselves ..... strike in Syria ... and ours visit them on vacation, on weekends, etc.?

        Or is it about Iran - to eat from the table, etc.? So, it seems, was not heard ...

        Money doesn't smell. Abramovich as witnesses ...
        1. -1
          23 September 2019 09: 13
          No, "eating off the table and trimming the legs of the bed" is exclusively about Israel ... And our people go to visit a lot, etc., and this does not mean at all that these are friendly countries ...
          1. 0
            23 September 2019 09: 29
            Judging by recent negotiations, the President chose Israel ...
            And all-all, including Iran, gave promises-to behave well .... and phoned, only bomb terrorists.
            1. +1
              23 September 2019 09: 37
              I strongly doubt that he chose anyone at all ... He just has to balance on the verge of other people's interests, trying to comply with his own. By the way, I don’t envy him at all ... And as for the promises, of all those involved there (in Syria), it’s possible to believe that these promises will be fulfilled, most of all to Iran, only then to the Turks, then Americans and Israel in last place. Although in general all three of the last partners are awful, as for the promises and their fulfillment in practice ... No.
              1. 0
                23 September 2019 09: 41
                Somewhere like that, but Israel is everything for our elite ...
                1. 0
                  23 September 2019 11: 37
                  If you mean the elite that I think about, and for whom "Israel is our everything," then Israel, apparently, should be very upset: their "our everything", that is, "their everything", has nothing to do directly with the territory of this country, its army or government. If something, like "a roasted rooster still bites in the fifth point", then this "everything" will move to another place, where it is quieter, not for the first time ... wink
                  1. +1
                    24 September 2019 08: 57
                    That is yes. But if not Israel bites, but, for example, Voronezh, they will nevertheless come to Israel ...
                    1. 0
                      24 September 2019 10: 18
                      I agree. But if Israel pecks, then there is still where to go, and not necessarily to Voronezh wink
  3. +8
    20 September 2019 10: 26
    The author clearly does not understand that Russia has no choice, do not give a damn about the fate of the Zionist-Nazi kagal, but Iran’s loss will mark the US base in the Caspian, so we will help Iran in any situation and Tel Aviv’s Wishlist will not change anything. And our intervention in Syria is proof of this, because after Syria they would have taken up Iran.
    1. +4
      20 September 2019 11: 04
      Well, about fate, you, in my opinion, have gone too far ...
      I don’t know about the US base in the Caspian, but from any point of view, including the economic one, Iran is a large and important partner in the region, and in the world. Israel itself, without the United States, +/- 0.
    2. +1
      22 September 2019 09: 06
      Dear, the Nazi regime is just in Iran, and not in Israel. Who threatens to destroy whom? Iran threatens to destroy Israel. Israel does not threaten Iran. Israel is defending itself, and you want to deprive it of the right to self-defense? So you yourself then, along the way, Natsik.
      1. 0
        23 September 2019 09: 19
        And in Iran, where, excuse me, is the Nazi regime? And who threatens whom - this "mother said in two". Now who threatens whom - this fashion in the world has gone like this, especially the States to the whole world here and there, but so far there is some silence ... And thank God ... And the Israelis are really bombing and killing people on the territory of a neighboring state, hiding behind the fact that someone allegedly threatens them, as well as the fact that their people suffered from the Nazis ... For a long time already, however, but still suffered. However, this is not a reason to indulge in whatever you want eighty years later and expect impunity ...
  4. -1
    20 September 2019 15: 21
    Well, the best advertisement for Russian weapons and not come up with. And then Israel does not produce its own weapons. They have American planes, tanks they have Leopard 2 in Israeli tuning, half of the army of combat feminists. But they are such lovers of rattling weapons.
    1. +3
      21 September 2019 02: 05
      Well, I don’t know, Merkava is not at all like a Leopard, it’s a conceptually different car. Rather, a very powerful BMP. And obviously his own. And with drones they have more than good. And his small arms and good. And they obviously have nuclear weapons. And there were planes, just the USA bent them under the F-35. Armored vehicles have their own, ATGM, OTR. Simply, open even Wiki, and you will understand that they are fundamentally wrong. The enemy is serious, in many ways you can blame them, but not in neglect of the army and its armament.
      1. +1
        23 September 2019 07: 20
        Under the F-35, the Israelis did not have to be tilted. This is a great plane and they are very happy with it. His criticism is trash. Garbage.
    2. +3
      22 September 2019 09: 19
      You would first have to learn the materiel before fooling such nonsense. Israel just makes a lot of military equipment at the most advanced level - basically, it’s missiles of all kinds, radars, electronic reconnaissance and electronic warfare equipment, gunner, artillery, optics, patrol boats and missile corvettes. Of the corvettes, three were built in the USA, now they have ordered four in Germany, and the rest have their own, and they have very advanced corvettes too. Yes, their planes are now American, but much of their equipment is their own. Once they produced Kfir fighters on the basis of the French Mirages and created the F-16 class Lavi fighter, but he did not go into production - the Americans did not want to compete with their F-16s. But in urgent need, Israel can resume the Lavi project. They also licensed Phantom jets and were ready to produce an engine for Lavi. Well, as for the tanks - you’re just disgraced in general. What the hell Leopard, when they release their Merkava, and by the way, their KAZ (if you know what it is). Women in their army, of course, are much fewer than half, and their enemies rattle their weapons, and they respond, respectively.
  5. +3
    20 September 2019 17: 03
    There is nothing to choose there, the Zionists - the enemies of Russia, have been, are and will be.
    1. +1
      21 September 2019 04: 08
      Zionists, perhaps, and even most likely, the people of Israel, are impossible, these are not banderlogs to you, if the Chinese are grateful to the USSR (and they are not all), then the Jews are, moreover, they are crafty, but not stupid.
      1. -2
        21 September 2019 04: 11
        The enemies of Russia are not Jews and not Americans, but the Moscow kamepto camarilla, which only the lazy, from Soviet times, has not had, hence all the defeats of Russia.

        Do not look for enemies far, they are all under your nose ...

        disguised in "theirs".
    2. +1
      22 September 2019 09: 24
      You, along the way, have no idea what Zionism is. He has only one single goal - to create a Jewish state and resettle there as many Jews as possible from around the world. And with these tasks they are quite successful. They have no other goals, and they have no complaints against Russia. This, on the contrary, Russia has always armed and incited the enemies of Israel. So, rather, Russia is the enemy of Israel than Israel is Russia. Although so far they get along well with Putin.
  6. -3
    20 September 2019 17: 25
    I read the article, then read on the internet about the Arab-Israeli wars, starting in 1947, ..... where, when, who won, who lost. Conclusion: the author of the article is either ideological or taught history according to Fomenko-Nosovsky.
    1. +1
      20 September 2019 20: 16
      You, you see, read the article poorly. And here about the Arab-Israeli wars ?
      We are talking about a possible direct Russian-Israeli clash ...
      1. +1
        22 September 2019 09: 35
        But such clashes in the past occurred and did not end with anything good for Russia. In 1970, battles took place on the banks of the Suez Canal between regular military units of the Soviet air defense and Israeli air forces. The outcome of these battles is known - it was not possible to break Israel. In Syria, to a lesser extent, they also clashed, and in 1982 the Israelis simply tore the Syrian air defense and air forces in Lebanon, despite the most advanced air defense systems Square and S-125, and the MiG-23 was armed with Syrians in the air. In 1973, the start of the war was unsuccessful for Israel, but the crown of the whole affair was the defeat of the Egyptian and Syrian armies. Israeli troops stopped 100 km from Cairo (crossing the Suez Canal) and 30 km from Damascus. The USSR then raised such a screech, they were afraid that Israel would seize the capitals of Syria and Egypt and overthrow their ruling regimes. Although, in fact, Israel did not need this at all. These were Kremlin fantasies. And what Israel needed was to crush the war machine of these two aggressors. And they crushed her. There is no doubt that they will continue to crush, if necessary.
        1. -1
          25 September 2019 18: 46
          Do not confuse the presence of instructors in a military clash with a war between states.
          In Korea, the USSR and the USA also fought against each other, but the war was between Koreas.

          The USSR then raised such a screech, they were afraid that Israel would seize the capitals of Syria and Egypt and overthrow their ruling regimes.

          And I don’t even want to comment on this nonsense ...
  7. -1
    20 September 2019 17: 52
    The right choice, it was high time for them to land on the ground.
    1. +1
      22 September 2019 09: 40
      First you need to have a landing gear, otherwise the hernia would not come out.
      1. +1
        22 September 2019 14: 31
        Quote: Alexey Ilyin
        First you need to have a landing gear, otherwise the hernia would not come out.

        Do not worry, the landing site already has experience too (starting from the DPRK and ending with South Ossetia) and, strangely enough, the hernia after that did not come out. And this time, too, everything will be fine.
        1. 0
          8 October 2019 19: 57
          Yes, you have not coped with your "ground plane" with little Chechnya. And your experience with the DPRK and Ossetia can be stuck in one place. The whole problem is that Russia has always supported and supports the Arab countries, which are engaged in terrorism with great pleasure (here, of course, both oil and gas). Despite the fact that she herself suffers greatly from terror. But your rulers are of little interest. It is not their children who are dying. Or do you need examples? So I have them. And it will be good when it’s good for your pensioners, disabled people, when young people don’t think about where to find a job, when education, medicine rises ... Now all this will be raised, a hernia will really come out. But you have to try, not think about Israel. Israel is able to take care of itself.
          1. +1
            9 October 2019 11: 50
            Our soldiers fulfilled their duty with dignity and heroism in Chechnya, North Korea, Ossetia, which were put before them. Unlike you, who unleashed a terrorist war against their own people in their country, who refused to swear allegiance to Bandera and the Nazis in their "Kueva. It was not enough that someone dared to insult those boys who went through that war.

  8. 0
    20 September 2019 18: 34
    For Iran, the United States used to be the Great Satan, and the USSR the Lesser Satan. Interestingly, the current RF inherited this honorary title or what?
  9. 0
    20 September 2019 21: 29
    Prime Minister Netanyahu, like a nasty fox, wants, like Lukashenko, to sit in two chairs, but the meanness is still full of even Russia.
    1. +1
      22 September 2019 09: 49
      And what is the meanness? Rather, villainy goes from Russia to Israel. Blame it on your health and ascribe to another (Israel) the blunders of your Syrian allies and your own military - you will not name anything but meanness. To the credit of the Russian military, many of them immediately disproved Konashenkov's nonsense, which was completely obvious to professionals from the air defense and air forces. Even Colonel Alksnis, a member of the Duma, immediately rejected the gross fake of the Russian Defense Ministry that, say, an Israeli fighter hid behind the IL-20. This is not to mention the fact that Israeli planes were no longer near Syria when the Il-20 was shot down. But the Kremlin decided to commit meanness in order to cover up its stupid allies and their own lazy people, who showed themselves not in the best way.
  10. +2
    20 September 2019 22: 14
    It is clear that Israel is not a friend to Russia, but Islamic Iran is not even more a friend and, one might say, even an enemy. Israel still supported Russia under certain conditions, but Iran, not only supported and supports Shiite Islamists in Russia and around the world, but it is also a competitor to Russia in the oil and gas market. Russia should be thanked for the sanctions, because of which Iran cannot freely trade its resources on the foreign market, but what if it could trade them? And Israel only consumes resources and, therefore, Russia is not a competitor in their trade. In addition, the Jewish lobby is widely represented in the highest echelons of power in many countries, through marriages and close to the government "bankers-businessmen", which is not and cannot be in Islamic, radical Iran. So think - with whom is it more profitable and promising for Russia to "be friends". wink
    1. -1
      21 September 2019 07: 57
      In addition, the Jewish lobby is widely represented in the highest echelons of power in many countries, through marriages and close to the government "bankers-businessmen", which is not and cannot be in Islamic, radical Iran.

      - Yes, about the Jewish lobby ... - that's right .. - But about the Islamic lobby, no ... - It was like that yesterday, not today. the "situation" has already started to change dramatically ...
      - And Iran, when this terrible genie is nevertheless released from the durable anti-infectious and anti-epidemiological autoclave intended for it ..., it may exert its influence not necessarily through its own Iranians and the inhabitants of the Middle East in general ... - For this there is a monstrous mass of other "suitable contingent ", which filled the whole world ... - yes even in the present Zap. Europe. Yes, even in Russia, where in all Russian cities there are already a lot of "bakhtiyars"; and the neighboring, former "'Bakhtiyar republics" ... - the current "limitrophe states" ... - also to help them ... - And among the Europeans, too, there are brainless, frostbitten human individuals who will easily commit any terrorist attack, being the same radical Islamists ...
      - Yes, and ISIS itself ... - is that .. ??? - And this is the most that neither, the international Islamic international radical organization component, which he directs; an Islamic lobby located in the highest echelons of power, ready to issue an order itself ... - that for carrying out terrorist attacks, that for armed demonstrations, that even for starting local wars ...
      - And also ready to fulfill and "someone else's orders" ... to fulfill all the same fanatical "mission-tasks" assigned to him ...
      - And the worst thing about this is that this Islamic lobby is becoming more and more influential, independent and independent ... - And also rich ... - So Iran is the most "suitable state" for the embodiment of all these "radical ideas" ... - And unpredictable Turkey too, and Saud. Arabia, and Yemen, and Libya ... etc .. - So ... - Alas ...
      1. +1
        22 September 2019 00: 33
        The Bakhtiarov republics are all Sunni, does Iran really have an influence on them?
        1. +1
          22 September 2019 09: 06
          - Shiites and bakhtiars (and it is the “bakhtiars” who are more radical in this respect) will easily go together to slaughter Christians when the reins fall under their tail and when they feel complete impunity ...
          - All this "Bakhtiarov's world" ... is the improvised "Island of Dr. Moreau", where only a slight, faint provocation is enough, and all the primitive instincts of this public instantly appear in all their glory, and all the fragile gilding of imaginary civilization at once peels off, like onion peel ...
      2. +1
        22 September 2019 09: 54
        You forgot about the split of the Islamic world into Sunnis and Shiites, who are in irreconcilable hostility with each other. Iran, of course, has certain opportunities, but they are quite limited. And if it comes to hot, then Iran will simply be pulverized. From the air. For this, you do not even need a land operation.
        1. +1
          22 September 2019 10: 19
          - No, I haven’t forgotten ... - Split split ... split ...
          - Here in Turkey, the country of universal Islam .... 80% of Sunnis and 20% of Shiites live ... - So what .. ??? - This has never stopped them from slaughtering Christians together for almost 500 years and "drinking Christian blood" ... - And today they together quite famously slaughter Copts and other Christians wherever they can "reach" them ... - This is their common bloody "hobby"...
          - Yes, and in ISIS no rabble of these religious co-religionists has gathered ... - but still, they do all their vile deeds together ...
          - Well, they can sort things out between themselves ...

          And if it comes to hot, then Iran will simply be pulverized. From the air. For this, you do not even need a land operation.

          - It is too late to wash Iran into powder, unless they start doing it today or "tomorrow morning" ...
          - But with a slobbering trump this will not work ... - The Americans chose the old man as president ... who broke all the ambitious traditions of the Americans ... -Hahah ...
          1. 0
            28 September 2019 10: 26
            Quote: gorenina91
            It is too late to wash Iran into powder, unless they start doing it today or "tomorrow morning" ...

            Yes, you’re right, it’s better earlier, but for this you need a strong-willed decision, which Israel was on the verge of making, but the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate stopped and said that he would solve it through diplomatic means.
            Few have read this agreement, which stipulated a moratorium on the development of nuclear weapons for 10 (ten) years.
            Israel cited evidence that Iran continues to develop and hides it throughout the country, next to civilian facilities.
            What the IAEA recently confirmed.

            Quote: gorenina91
            Iran is already too late to wash powder.

            I'm not sure anyone will do this.
            But if information appears that Iran is close to nuclear weapons production, you can rest assured that Israel will do the same as with the Iraqi and Syrian reactors.
            And if Iran responds, then the entire oil industry, oil ports and military bases will be destroyed (for example, Syria and Iraq). And there will be no need to wash it into powder.
            He simply cannot exist.
  11. 0
    21 September 2019 01: 51
    That's when the first F-16 is dropped, then we will know for sure: it burst.
    1. +2
      21 September 2019 11: 32
      Dropped already. In February, whether 2018, or 2019, I do not remember.
    2. +1
      22 September 2019 10: 01
      Well, how will Drying be dropped? What will you sing then? By the way, in 1996, during the Kuzi cruise to the Mediterranean Sea, training battles took place between the Su-33 (deck version of the Su-27) and the Israeli F-16. F-16s went to the tail of the Dryers, and not vice versa. But marginal superiority in maneuverability today does not at all guarantee victory in aerial combat. The main thing today is radars and air-to-air missiles. Well, the means of electronic warfare. Well, stealth (stealth), which Russian aircraft do not have at all, while Israel already has 18 F-35s and, by the way, they are very happy with them.
      1. +2
        22 September 2019 12: 08
        - Yes exactly...
        - To our great regret, our ultra-modern military aircraft .., according to a long-standing "tradition", continue to work for the public and amuse the greedy man in the street with "aerial acrobatics" ... - Just how they were a "weak link" for our air force. .. electronic warfare means; AFAR and modern air-to-air missiles ... have remained this very "weak link" ...
        - And it doesn’t matter to our enemy somehow ... - what kind of somersaults can a combat Russian aircraft carry out .... - he will simply quickly detect and destroy it from a long distance ...
        - The same Turks in 2015 slammed our plane with experienced aces from their territory from a distance of more than 20 km ... - But ours could not even react ....
  12. 0
    21 September 2019 11: 33
    Israel, goodbye.
    1. -3
      21 September 2019 21: 43
      You are not the first to say that. But Israel was, is and will be, but Russia will turn into New China and the New Islamic State.
      And in general, how can you choose with whom to be friends, with smart or with terrorists?
      1. -1
        22 September 2019 13: 37
        Israel will be destroyed by Iran in the early 20s.
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  13. +1
    21 September 2019 20: 39
    You need to compare not the number of aircraft and tanks, but the number of human potential. 100 million will erase any quantity into powder, they set themselves such a task. The constant pressure of hundreds of terrorists, sooner or later, will cause flight from the Promised Land earlier arrived there. What has been observed since 2000. In our country, in the USSR, comrades with a specific specialty and parents felt like an elite. Trading, cultural, intellectual. THERE they are, like everyone else. Nothing and nothing .... And they even have to serve in the army and die for their new (old) homeland. Is this the sudden saturation of European countries with repatriates from the USSR, and other nearby countries of the social camp?
    I doubt that against the thousands of Muslim extremist fighters, you will fulfill the threat of Golda Meir to use what you do not have.
    1. 0
      22 September 2019 10: 11
      You have been deceived. Since the 2000s, not emigration from Israel has been increasing, but rather immigration to Israel. And most of all just from Russia. Against millions of terrorists, there are machine guns and cannons, which millions do not care. There will be terror from within, they will simply expel the Arabs from their territory and the cause will end. Well, and at the very extreme, there is such a universal equalizer as nuclear weapons. And by the way, in recent years, the birth rate in the Islamic world has fallen sharply. Including in Iran. So, on the demographic front, not everything is so simple. Moreover, in the United States the birth rate is at a good level. This is bad in Europe with this affair. But who else should worry about the birth rate at home is Russia. Russia has huge demographic problems, including those with growing emigration from the country, and by no means only Jews, but also the most thoroughbred Rusaks.
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      2. +1
        22 September 2019 22: 44









        There is no population growth reserve. From prosperous countries, and there are much more ethnic Jews living there than in Israel, one should not wait for repatriates. The USSR has lost the majority, the "Russians" are not eager to fight, when here and now you can not be ashamed of your origin.
        In Israel itself, the proportion of Jews has fallen dramatically.
        1. 0
          28 September 2019 11: 46
          Quote: Vkd dvk
          In Israel itself, the proportion of Jews has fallen dramatically.

          Well, very interesting information.
          Especially the source that YOU will be able to make changes tomorrow.
          And in order not to powder the brains with an inexperienced reader, you can make it easier.

          On the eve of the 71st anniversary of the founding of the State of Israel, the Central Bureau of Statistics publishes demographic data on the country's population.
          According to these data, 9,021 million citizens live in Israel. Of them 6,597 million (74,2%) are Jews, 1,890 million (21,0%) are Arabs and 434 thousand (4,8%) are citizens of other nationalities.
          By the time the State was formed in Israel lived about 800 thousand citizens of the country.
          Over the past year from the previous Independence Day in Israel 188 thousand babies were born, 31 thousand people repatriated and 47 thousand died.
          Since the founding of the State of Israel in 3,2 million returnees arrived in the country, with 43% of them coming from the former Soviet Union in the 90s of the last century.
          Israel is home to 45% of the total Jewish population on Earth.

          48 thousand people over 90 live in the country.
    2. 0
      28 September 2019 11: 07
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      You will fulfill the threat of Golda Meir to apply what you do not have.

      No matter how much you shout, "halva" in your mouth will not become sweeter ...
      How would you not like

      IT IS NOT. BUT IF IT IS NECESSARY, WE WILL APPLY IT.

      Although the presence of nuclear potential has never been officially confirmed, the Israel Defense Forces formed a nuclear triad, which has aviation, land and sea components. According to experts, the Israeli nuclear arsenal is quantitatively close to the British. However, the difference is that the bulk of the Israeli nuclear weapons is for tactical carriers, which, if used against potential rivals of Israel in the Middle East, can solve strategic problems. At the moment, the scientific and technical potential of the Jewish state, if necessary, allows for a fairly short time period to deploy a powerful grouping of intercontinental ballistic missiles that can hit a target anywhere in the world. And although the current number of Israeli nuclear and thermonuclear warheads is considered sufficient to cause unacceptable damage to any potential aggressor, their number over the course of a decade can be increased several times. At the same time, the official policy of the Israeli leadership is to prevent the possession of atomic technology by countries that pursue a hostile policy against the Jewish people. Such a policy was practically implemented in that the Israeli Air Force, contrary to international law, attacked nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria in the past.

      https://topwar.ru/143462-yadernyy-potencial-izrailya.html

      And now you turn to topwar.ru and write to them that they DECEIVE ALL!
  14. 0
    29 September 2019 14: 48
    Quote: TAYAS
    Quote: Vkd dvk
    In Israel itself, the proportion of Jews has fallen dramatically.

    Well, very interesting information.
    Especially the source that YOU will be able to make changes tomorrow.
    And in order not to powder the brains with an inexperienced reader, you can make it easier.

    On the eve of the 71st anniversary of the founding of the State of Israel, the Central Bureau of Statistics publishes demographic data on the country's population.
    According to these data, 9,021 million citizens live in Israel. Of them 6,597 million (74,2%) are Jews, 1,890 million (21,0%) are Arabs and 434 thousand (4,8%) are citizens of other nationalities.
    By the time the State was formed in Israel lived about 800 thousand citizens of the country.
    Over the past year from the previous Independence Day in Israel 188 thousand babies were born, 31 thousand people repatriated and 47 thousand died.
    Since the founding of the State of Israel in 3,2 million returnees arrived in the country, with 43% of them coming from the former Soviet Union in the 90s of the last century.
    Israel is home to 45% of the total Jewish population on Earth.

    48 thousand people over 90 live in the country.

    An interesting approach. We don’t believe Wikipedia, because you CAN make any changes there, but you should definitely believe your pussy. It’s impossible there. Gentlemen do not lie.
    Respecting the interlocutor, at least a link from where this was found .....
  15. +1
    29 September 2019 14: 58
    Quote: TAYAS
    Since the founding of the State of Israel, 3,2 million returnees have arrived in the country, with 43% of them coming from the former Soviet Union in the 90s.

    43% of 3,2 million is 1,376 million. Where did the firewood come from? In the USSR there were only 674 thousand of them.
    We don’t believe Wikipedia, any changes can be made there, we believe your pussy. Gentlemen do not lie.

    Mass movements from prosperous USA, France, .... believe? Believe it.

  16. -2
    6 October 2019 01: 55
    The article has a one-sided approach and incorrect information.
    First, if Russia is responsible for Syria, then it is also responsible for the absence of terrorists and armed bands hostile to the region, such as Hezbollah. If it does not answer, then it cannot make claims regarding special operations.
    Secondly, Israel destroys terrorists, not Russian forces. It would be logical for Moscow to show gratitude to Israel, and not to be indignant. By the way, for what reason the indignation is not clear, people do their work and do not touch you.
    And thirdly, about that ill-fated plane, which the Syrians (or their own?) Seem to have shot down, how does this relate to Israel? Shame on blaming Israel for this.