Gref and Siluanov opposed national projects: where do liberals offer to put money

Speaking at the Moscow Financial Forum, the head of Sberbank, German Gref, said that national projects approved by the head of state, Vladimir Putin, "will not produce the desired result."




At the same time, the financier noted that his views on the increase in budget expenditures and the impact on monetary policies, coincide with the views of the Minister of Finance, Anton Siluanov.

According to Gref, national projects will not bring the expected result because they are not completely structured, and they need to invest huge resources.

The head of Sberbank believes that these resources should be directed to other areas. And where, according to Gref, it is necessary to direct the resources intended for the implementation of national projects, causes, to put it mildly, bewilderment.

Instead of specifically formulated projects on the most important problems for Russia, with clearly defined deadlines, the banker offers to finance a certain amorphous “reinvention and creation of a new model in each of these areas: in education, healthcare, public administration, and the judicial system”.

A rather strange statement for a person who knows better than others that money directed to such vague goals tend to disappear in the same vague direction.
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  1. Stas Ek Offline
    Stas Ek (Zhora) 15 September 2019 12: 45
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    On your own account to keep loot more reliable.
  2. Port Offline
    Port 15 September 2019 13: 32
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    Gref is not a financier, but a swindler from the big road, let him tell you why people keep pensions in the Security Council for a week, creating huge lines of pensioners at ATMs, because pensions are issued at different times of the month so that Gref doesn’t profit from someone else’s for nothing.
  3. valeriy7 Offline
    valeriy7 (Valery) 15 September 2019 15: 39
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    Instead of specifically formulated projects on the most important problems for Russia, with clearly defined deadlines for implementation, the banker offers to finance a certain amorphous “reinvention and creation of a new model in each of these areas: in education, healthcare, public administration, and the judicial system.

    A rather strange statement for a person who knows better than others that money directed to such vague goals tend to disappear in the same vague direction.

    - Gref's task is to disrupt the financing of nat. projects, and if possible, then heat the hands on this.
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 16 September 2019 11: 03
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      ... even if Gref doesn’t succeed in warming his hands at the disruption of national projects, he will be paid for it anyway, on the other hand ... so he won’t stay in the way, he knows what he’s working for, since ....
  4. Bitter Offline
    Bitter (Gleb) 15 September 2019 18: 55
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    ... will not give the desired result.

    ... these resources should be directed to other areas.

    That is the problem. No need to look for reasons "why they will not give and what is better" - all the best is the enemy of the good.
    It would be nice to do a search for a solution to problems, the disclosure of reserves, opportunities and their further development.
  5. Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) 15 September 2019 19: 12
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    What a pity that Colonel Kvachkov did not finish his job.
  6. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 15 September 2019 23: 54
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    But it’s better to send Gref himself to other areas, areas not so remote. He will be there and structuring to the end, and the investment of gigantic resources in reinventing and creating a new model.
  7. Aleksey Glotov Offline
    Aleksey Glotov (alexey glotov) 16 September 2019 02: 40
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    A specialist in 1001 and one honest way of weaning money offers a 1002 way of weaning money ... when he has a moshna burst from the strain.
  8. General Black Online
    General Black (Gennady) 16 September 2019 07: 46
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    I would like these to be the last speeches of Messrs. Gref and Siluanov.
  9. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 16 September 2019 09: 25
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    The stump is clear, they won’t.

    Previous projects did not. So why should they give it now?
    IPhone killers, Wi-Fi - transport, Fedya robots, nano-scooters - everything will be, but not for long ...
    Soprut grandmother, as before.

    And by the way, what for Putin’s friends then attacked? Honestly fulfill the role of the nasty Cassandra ....
  10. Monster_Fat Offline
    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 16 September 2019 17: 08
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    That's just what Gref is far from d ..... to and he looks beyond the nose of the majority. Another thing is that it is not understood by those who still think in categories of the 4th century, and in the yard already, long ago, the 5st century, which brought XNUMX technological ways and already looms the XNUMXth. People are becoming more and more unnecessary in the production process in the quantity that they were needed in the XNUMXth century, many classical professions either die off or are completely reformatted. Even entire branches of the economy, familiar to us for hundreds of years, are dying. For example, with the introduction of blockchain and cryptocurrency, banking will wither away, banks will no longer be needed, and so on. Gref thinks already in advance about this and he believes that we must first urgently find out what changes in the economy, production, finances, public consumption, etc., will be crooked in the future, in connection with the achievements and opportunities that the modern scientific and technological revolution gives us and will give, and only then, to prepare some kind of "program" for "development" already, taking these requirements into account. Moreover, it will be necessary to prepare new programs everywhere, in all areas, if we do not want to waste our money and efforts in vain, continuing to “bend the old line”. So that I personally completely agree with Gref - without analyzing the perspectives and requirements given by modern achievements in all areas of human life, it is impossible to develop the right development programs, set the right priorities and what is now offered under the guise of "national programs" is complete bullshit, pure sophistry (except perhaps with the exception of the development of the transport system, which is always needed) .- A waste of money.
    1. sgrabik Offline
      sgrabik (Sergei) 16 September 2019 17: 46
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      As all these Gref, Chubais, Siluanovs, Nabiullins and all similar liberals got all already, it seems that they all live somewhere in parallel reality and absolutely do not want to understand the problems of ordinary people, that for them the people are just consumables! !!
    2. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 16 September 2019 22: 41
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      ... now it is proposed under the guise of "national programs" - a complete nonsense ...

      He looked into ravings, fluently and diagonally. recourse

      1. Health care.
      - reduction in mortality.
      - development of children's health care, the creation of a modern infrastructure for the provision of medical care to children.
      - etc.


      definitely bullshit who can’t pay for treatment in Switzerland himself - he didn’t fit ... crying

      2. Education.
      - the formation of an effective system for identifying, supporting and developing abilities and talents in children and youth, based on the principles of justice, universality and aimed at self-determination and career guidance. etc.

      what for? Three classes of parish school are quite enough. Who can’t pay himself for Harvard - well, sorry, didn’t fit. what

      3. Housing and urban environment.
      - Establishment of mechanisms for the development of a comfortable urban environment, the integrated development of cities and other settlements, taking into account the urban environment quality index;

      Here you can see a direct link to the first paragraph.

      4. Ecology.
      generally fiction and foggy money laundering scheme.
      You can buy "garbage plants" for the capital.
      The rest will be interrupted. good

      5. Highways.
      - an increase in the share of regional roads that meet the standards in their total length up to at least 50 percent.
      -Introduction of a publicly accessible information system for monitoring the formation and use of road funds of all levels.
      - etc.


      Of course, it is important how otherwise important priests will travel around business and have picnics. yes

      6. The labor market.
      Absolutely unnecessary business - the market will destroy everything itself. good

      7. The science
      - why spend money? Everything can be bought or exchanged for non-renewable resources, thank God there are many more.
      Evil communists as it is not very "skins and lands" for beads changed. wassat

      8. The digital economy.
      It’s important, otherwise it’s faster to download resources to the west. recourse

      9. Culture.
      And what is this about? Well, if only Raikin toss the dough into his theater, that's all. laughing

      10. Small business.
      Absolutely no one, all funds are plundered at once and you will not find the ends. hi

      11. Cooperation and export.
      Here, of course, it is necessary to pump that we can fuck from this. hi It is clear that not all, but only those who fit.

      12. The backbone infrastructure.
      - reconstruction of the infrastructure of regional airports.
      - construction and modernization of Russian road sections related to the international transport route "Europe - Western China";
      - an increase in the capacity of seaports, including the ports of the Far East, Northwest, Volga-Caspian and Azov-Black Sea basins;
      - etc.

      Ash stump desired projection, how else can neo-feudal lords be able to visit their lands? bully

      In general, out of all twelve, two or three offhand can be deployed and think about two or three. wassat fellow

      so sad what
      1. Monster_Fat Offline
        Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 17 September 2019 00: 31
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        All the so-called "national projects" are a set of phrases for which absolutely nothing stands. There is not a single paragraph where it would be written down on points and “steps” how and what they are going to “reform” and what coefficients and indicators should be achieved at the end of a given paragraph. All these "national projects", which have no specifics, but have secret financing, have the literary name "projects" - the result of the "fulfillment" of which is the notorious "development" of the "project" budget, that is, banal - "cut." These "projects" are from the same category as the "project" of creating "25 million high-tech, highly paid jobs." Here Gref is trying to convey to the “thinking” people a banal truth - you already decide what you are going to “build”, which Russia and which millennium, decide on the resources for construction, train builders and invite the missing from abroad, decide on system of construction control and the criteria of "readiness" of what you intend to build, etc., moreover, not according to one plan "A", but also according to plan "B" and "C". .
        1. Bitter Offline
          Bitter (Gleb) 17 September 2019 22: 06
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          As I understand it, if a set of phrases and slogans receives the status of a national project, then this does not happen all of a sudden.
          In turn, they had to work on this in certain circles, and some structures were obliged to develop various plans, terms and measures of responsibility for the breakdown.

          Otherwise, golem populism and no one will see money under this “miracle-judo-perestroika”.

          ... already, decide on what you are going to "build", which Russia and which millennium ..

          With the construction of Russia, everything is simple, there’s still breaking and breaking. And then built here you understand the national property. bully

          The main temples are more, different to build. Large and small, on blood and on water .... It is surprising that there is still no general church tax aimed at restoring the churches affected by various arbitrariness of the times.
  11. Alexander Bushkovsky (Alexander) 16 September 2019 21: 09
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    So these ghouls do not work for Russia, against Russia.
  12. Verkhomnapule Offline
    Verkhomnapule (OLEG) 17 September 2019 03: 39
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    These nits do not even cover their subversive activities against Russia. It is still not too late, it is necessary to get rid of them in a radical way. Completely remove from any state activity, otherwise they will strangle us !!!! am
    1. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 17 September 2019 22: 23
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      It’s never too late, it’s a matter of price, and the price tag is such that “this” is no longer needed. hi
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    Rinat (Rinat) 17 September 2019 07: 59
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    Gref, judging by his position in life - is over. I wonder how this ... is not even encrypted, apparently I’m sure that for his undisguised sabotage aimed at disrupting the autocratic development of Russia, he will not be bad.
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    yuriy55 (Yuri Vasilievich) 17 September 2019 09: 07
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    German Gref said that national projects approved by the head of state, Vladimir Putin, "will not produce the desired result."

    It's right. The result will be if this “snitch” is forced to work out deposit compensation in the zone ...
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    pafegosoff (Arkhip Pafegosov) 17 September 2019 20: 31
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    Gref, who hates war veterans, especially Russians, as a child of returnees, sometimes shows his poisonous teeth.
    For instance. He imposed on pensioners cards. Moreover, earlier, sick, non-walking old people came from Sberbank and issued cards at home. However, a year ago this practice ceased. A special hatred is for WWII veterans. "Come to Sberbank in person!" - such is the mocking advice of a paralyzed or simply anesthetized veteran. Imagine how many millions (billions) Sberbank appropriated (put into circulation), shoeing such unfortunate people for whom May 9 is a day of respect, and the remaining 364 days are days of humiliation!
    Putin sends mocking congratulatory letters, and laughs behind his back, showing his tongue and damn horns - Gref!
    His latest invention (this week) is a proposal to reduce police officers to the limit. What for? And then, so that the rest get more! Genius!!! With the government and other 90% officials, this somehow doesn’t ...
    This is Gref.