"The United States begins to be rude": the worst between Moscow and Washington is yet to come

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The very specific and clear answer given by the heads of the Russian defense and diplomatic departments - Sergei Shoigu and Sergey Lavrov to the public boorish demarche of the Pentagon’s head Mike Esper, is, in fact, not just another proof that these high-ranking Russian policy do not climb. In fact, this is a completely unambiguously expressed position of our state, which determines the vector of further development of relations between Moscow and Washington. If you want - expressed in an extremely harsh form, the refusal to surrender.





But maybe it wasn’t worth chopping off just like that? Perhaps it was necessary to try to find compromises, to try to "normalize" something there again, or even to "reboot"? Well, no ... All recent events convincingly prove that there are simply no other options for "communication" with the United States acceptable to Russia.

And hand over the weapon ...


In the talk about the “abnormality” of the behavior of our country, the head of the United States Department of Defense, vigorously wandering around Europe with the aim of putting together either an anti-Iranian coalition, or an anti-Russian (and, most likely, both), noted in Paris. His speech at the Royal Institute for Defense Research, held in the capital of Misty Albion, is no less revealing. In his London speech, Mr. Esper said that his country was ready to make even more efforts to “contain the aggression of Russia”, which, in his opinion, manifests itself “not only in Eastern Europe”, but almost “in all regions of the world ". You see, he dreamed of "authoritarian regimes that redraw the global security system in their favor at the expense of other states." As the “most authoritarian,” the head of the Pentagon openly named our country. That is, on the one hand, he urges us to “accept Western values, change behavior” and “move forward,” and on the other, without even waiting for an answer to this message, he declares an implacable struggle against Russia! Lovely ...

However, what exactly means a “change of behavior” to “normal” in the understanding of this high-flying Washington official, it became clear even before his appointment to a senior position in the US Armed Forces. Speaking at the relevant Senate hearings on the consideration by American lawmakers of a candidate for the most important military post, Esper made more than an eloquent statement. In his opinion, the START-3 treaty can be renegotiated between Moscow and Washington only if it includes an item on full control of all Russian nuclear weapons, up to tactical charges! How do you like the scope? "Wishlist" of this scale, in fact, make you think about the normality of Esper himself. And at the same time, they give an excellent idea of ​​what kind of behavior of Russia he sees as acceptable. Essentially, they do not even demand from us complete and unconditional surrender, but voluntary suicide. What will happen to Russia, give it the keys to its own nuclear arsenals in the "good" American hands, you do not even have to specify. Especially, in light of the fact that, even without the slightest hope of receiving them, Washington, nevertheless, is stubbornly trying to behave with our country as if it were its own colony.

"The people of Russia are tired!"


It was this statement that was published publicly and in print, using The Washington Times as a mouthpiece, recently by two members of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Michael McCall and Eliot Engel. In their opinion, our fellow citizens, exhausted to the limit, whose troubles and hardships they take so close to heart, from the unbearable "tyranny of Putin", which "does not stop at anything to brutally suppress any political protest." They, you know, from Washington know better ... And if so, then the “shining light of world democracy” in the person of the United States is simply obliged, without stopping for a second, to fall down with all its might on the enemies that have settled in the Kremlin and not just “support the Russian people in their struggle for freedom ”, but also“ bring those responsible for violating human rights to severe responsibility ”. If you think that these are exceptionally loud words, then in vain. Just last week, these two clowns seriously began to demand that Donald Trump impose new sanctions against our country! According to their senatorial understanding, a new portion of some particularly severe restrictions, to its people "tormented by tyranny", will definitely benefit.

And even tried to bring the legal base under this case, damned! Like, “beaten up, arrested, imprisoned”, and, most importantly, “intimidated to the utmost by the authorities”, the participants in “thousands of peaceful demonstrations and rallies” frankly scream revenge. This is a direct violation by Moscow of its "obligations under the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe"! (And what is your American relationship before that, even if it were so ?!) And, therefore, the State Department and the White House should immediately apply sanctions against Russia in accordance with the Magnitsky Act, so that it doesn’t seem a little! Alas, all these ugly antics, which are nothing more than a standard of interference in the purely internal affairs of a sovereign power, do not at all boil down to amusements of senatorial idiots and cheap political PR. The United Nations joined the company almost immediately, which has long turned into an obedient puppet of Washington. As soon as the team heard the voice: “Voice!”, And now Michelle Bachelet, the whole UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, sharply worried about the fate of the Moscow “opposition” party, “throws the masses” a call “to investigate the events of protests” in our capital. For example, to "figure out" whether the police really used violence. And also in how justifiably the police themselves acted ... Well, well, dear, you weren’t so excited when the "yellow vests" swept in Paris? And to this day, lupus, by the way. Maybe you’ll investigate from there and start?

Spy games no longer hide


However, restoring order in Moscow, which led to the failure of yet another attempt to organize a Maidan there, worries Washington not so much as the problems that may arise when the next one is arranged. And the fact that actions aimed precisely at this is being undertaken and will be undertaken by representatives of the United States in the future does not even try to hide it! On the contrary, Washington experts today are discussing with might and main the extremely burning issue regarding section 1075 of the law on budgetary appropriations for next year. This paragraph of a very voluminous document states that in 2020, the US Secretary of State will be obliged to demand detailed information from Moscow about all, without exception, the movements of her diplomats on American territory. And immediately transmit the data to the FBI and National Intelligence. For some in Washington's highest echelons of power, this idea was extremely unpleasant and caused a flurry of criticism. Do you think that this is precisely a violation of the very “rights and freedoms” for which the United States is ready to tear the throats of everyone and everyone? Due to the fact that such demands look like the most natural rudeness and the manifestation of utter distrust and disrespect for Russia? Do you really think so? I can only envy your naivety.

Washington seriously (and, it must be said, not without good reason) fears that the “Russian barbarians” will immediately give a mirror answer to this demarche. Well, just like during the “diplomatic war” that erupted between the countries over the “Skripals case”. Do you expel six dozen of our representatives? Well, and we will give exactly the same number of yours under the knee ... Do you close the Consulate in Seattle? Well, that’s not how yours can be in St. Petersburg! An official letter of protest in this regard to the Senate Committee on the Armed Forces was sent signed by the acting director of the administrative and budgetary administration of the White House, Russell Vouta. However, there is no doubt that the text of this masterpiece of the epistolary genre was dictated to him from the Pentagon and the CIA. Why? And you will appreciate only one quote:

... The possible restriction of Russian travel by our diplomats will undermine their ability to work relatively freely in Russia to advance US interests!


Believe me, I did not exaggerate and did not overestimate anything - that’s exactly how it is written. Truly American simplicity, which, as the Russian barbarians say, is clearly worse than theft.

After that, the newspaper sensation now inflated in the USA about the alleged “evacuation from Moscow of the CIA’s most important agent working in the highest echelons of the Kremlin’s power” conducted in 2017 no longer seems delusional, much less ridiculous b were not denied her in Langley and the White House. Spies, bastards, and then they are going to spy! They did subversive work and will lead! But along the way - demanding from us to “change behavior” and “become normal” ... Yes, by the way, about normality. Here the other day, one of the US presidential candidates, Bernie Sanders (he seems to be running for Democrats), speaking to the voters, voiced a simply wonderful proposal: to limit the birth rate in poor countries by “making it easier for women to have access to abortion”! You know, I deeply spit, does Mr. Sanders know that this thesis fully repeats the proposals for "inferior peoples" expressed in the SS developed and delighted his boss Heinrich Himmler with the "General Plan Ost". It is enough for me that ideas coincide one to one. If it is precisely these “democratic values” that we are offered to accept for “moving forward”, then I completely agree with Shoigu and Lavrov - let’s better “we will be abnormal”. And the longer the better.
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  1. +3
    10 September 2019 09: 17
    The reaction of our respective agencies to the way the US obstructs the work of our diplomats is surprising, and where is the response to the rudeness and arbitrariness of the American State Department? It's time to restrict the movement of US diplomats (read spies) outside the Garden Ring, and especially active "instructors" and organizers of "protest actions" in Moscow, to be thrown out of Russia without the right to visit for life! Or our Foreign Ministry officials will over and over again express "concern" !!!
    1. -1
      10 September 2019 13: 35
      Why throw out, close each diplomat for 25 years old, and there are no problems.
      1. +2
        10 September 2019 16: 25
        Come on, tell me about the theory of color revolutions. For example, in Switzerland, you can arrange a color revolution? The answer is no. And why? But because a revolution cannot be made from scratch simply at will, but you can stir it up (the revolution) only where everything is not all right. And what about the trouble in other countries, "Obama" is doing, or is it the local thieving authorities and elites? Yes, the United States is taking advantage of the internal disadvantage in other countries in its own interests, but they are not creating a revolutionary situation in these countries. There it is created by local thieving foolish leaders. So, if you remove all Western agents of influence, then the country will not become more prosperous and calmer, since the source of the problem is inside, and not outside.
        1. +3
          10 September 2019 17: 58
          I can tell you about the theory of color revolutions. And in Switzerland it is quite possible to arrange it for yourself, if someone needs it. It is more difficult, of course, than in Egypt or Tunisia, but it is also possible, the question of price. And there will be problems, and foolish leaders, and "popular indignation" will be drawn, and placards with fists of different colors are right against the background of the Swiss cross, everything will be, do not worry ... Only so far, it is not profitable for anyone in Switzerland - there are also communists , and the capitalists, and terrorists, etc., have money. And while they are there, there will be no revolutions. But how it ends - expect trouble ...
          1. 0
            11 September 2019 07: 43
            Well, contradict yourself. What does the money mean ?! Can Switzerland really physically protect this money ?! Do not make me laugh. Give at least one example of a prosperous country in which it was possible to rock a revolution or a military coup from scratch. There are no such examples. Standing apart are relatively prosperous countries, in which they succeeded in shifting the regime by force, having accumulated any armed shobla at the borders. But here again the question is: was everything all right in that country, if citizens instead of protecting the country chose to dump massively from there?
            1. +4
              11 September 2019 15: 55
              Switzerland does not need to protect money, because they (these money) have such powerful owners that, as I said, while they are lying, no one will touch them. This is the tacit agreement of all those who have them there.
              Now relatively prosperous countries. Yugoslavia and Libya were quite prosperous until they began to interfere strongly with some people; the social programs there were such that modern Switzerland never dreamed of. Another example is Czechoslovakia, a strong and industrialized state where people lived quite comfortably too, they also ruined him directly from the United States, and the first president of an independent Czech Republic, Havel, who simply spent years on the salary of the CIA, did not even deny it. Only the Czechs, thank God, had the brains to do without partition and collapse without bloodshed.
              1. -2
                11 September 2019 16: 39
                Yugoslavia and Libya did not fall apart through revolution. They were simply bombed. With the Czech Republic, too, not through a revolution.
                1. +3
                  11 September 2019 16: 55
                  You obviously do not know the materiel. In Yugoslavia, a revolution and a civil war began on religious and national grounds, which, in fact, have not ended so far. And instead of a large and strong (and very intractable) country, now on the map are acne without its own army and economy, easily controlled separately from the outside. Serbia, already a separate country, was bombed, and much later, it also turned out to be intractable ...
                  With Libya, the theme is the same, only in the quintessence and in time, and in the development of events, everything is much faster and easier - the "barbaric regime" was bombed out, preventing the manifestations of the "movement to freedom". Because they quickly realized that Gaddafi would quickly smear the local "revolutionaries" without external military assistance on the wall ...
                  And in Czechoslovakia there was a natural revolution, the Czechs themselves call it a "velvet revolution", because it was practically bloodless, like the subsequent partition of the country ...
                  1. +1
                    20 September 2019 13: 21
                    Aleksey, and this is one of those for whom the 90s are "saints" (who are no longer allowed up to the trough) - from there he is, the "shaker of the authorities", from where the "sable piles" come from.
              2. -4
                20 September 2019 21: 14
                Quote: Pyshenkov
                Yugoslavia and Libya were quite prosperous until they began to interfere with some people,

                What nonsense.
                While Tito was alive, he held Yugoslavia with an iron hand. As soon as he died this artificial formation collapsed into its component parts under the weight of internal contradictions.
                Exactly the same thing would have happened with the USSR in the 50s if there had not been a war.
                Gaddafi was able to seize power in Libya. But he could not impose his authoritarian regime on the Libyans. Therefore, he simply bribed local barons. When his money ran out (blocked accounts), these barons simply cocked him. As a useless and even harmful object for them.

                Quote: Pyshenkov
                Another example is Czechoslovakia

                Czechoslovakia is generally an artificial education from the very beginning. Punishment to the Slovaks for their participation in the war on the side of Germany. Neither the Czechs nor the Slovaks wanted to live together. And they did not, as soon as such an opportunity appeared.
          2. 0
            20 September 2019 13: 24
            Alexei, don’t swing the beads ... There’s no one to do - prove nothing to such a thing, just waste your time and nerves. This is one of the admirers of your maydauns (are you from the former USSR?).
            1. +1
              20 September 2019 13: 28
              Yes, I don’t seem to like a sword ... In general, by origin, not from there, but from the former capital of the former USSR laughing , although, for example, I have a grandmother and maternal grandfather from Ukraine ... That is, I am such a typical Soviet product wink
              1. 0
                20 September 2019 19: 46
                Well then, excuse me - for some reason it seemed ... Ahh ... This is a peep from us from there ...
                1. +1
                  23 September 2019 09: 26
                  It’s okay, I wouldn’t be ashamed to be a Ukrainian if I were. I wouldn’t be born there right now, but at a decent time wink when there was something to be proud of
          3. -3
            20 September 2019 20: 27
            Quote: Pyshenkov
            About the theory of color revolutions, I can quite tell you.

            It would be fun to listen to, especially since there are no color revolutions. Does not exist in nature. This is an invention of the "TV".
        2. 123
          +1
          10 September 2019 21: 05
          Revolution in Switzerland? Yes, easily)))) Do not forget that in Switzerland there is the main condition for the revolution - the American embassy. Remember, the secrets of bank deposits in Switzerland no longer exist, the Americans asked for that. The weak point of the Swiss elite is the wallet. If something happens, they will be hinted, like Yanukovych, that it is not good to offend "the children", because there will be problems with banks and the franc will cease to be a reliable currency, and then a matter of technology. It remains only to explain to the German-speaking majority that all "Svidomo" Swiss must speak German, and the French-speaking population of the west of the country (19%) is very similar to the separatists, even in the south there are 8% of obnoxious lazy Italians who prevent the country from becoming truly great, and there are still about 20% of those who came in large numbers, all the guilty foreigners. It is very easy to play off these 4 population groups. You just need to explain to the French, Italians and "come in large numbers" exactly how the Germans oppress them. And the American diplomats know how, the technology has been worked out. Besides, you need to bring in cookies. By the way, please share information on Taiwan's "local thieving fools-leaders", it is very interesting to read.
          1. -1
            11 September 2019 08: 09
            By the way, please share information on Taiwan's "local thieving fools-leaders", it is very interesting to read.

            I will not give you a fish, but a fishing rod, and I will teach you how to fish. Watch your hands and repeat movements, the method is universal and works for everything. You type in a search engine: "What is Taiwan striking against" and read the articles. Everything! You will find the answer.
            1. 123
              +2
              11 September 2019 10: 53
              Please, drive your hands more slowly, I write it down. I took your advice literally. I learned not much new. The first reference to "DW", a very biased organization, is financed from the state budget of Germany, we wrote and showed very interestingly about the elections and protests. In our times, it is customary to impose sanctions for this. The article very picturesquely describes how poor Taiwan asks for protection from evil China from the "progressive world community."
              Did you read anything besides this? Protests began after the law on extradition to China.
              As early as July 15, Hong Kong authorities officially stopped the process of passing the bill; in August, the draft law on extradition to China was withdrawn. Since initially everything was focused on confrontation, the recall of the law, of course, did not help. Demands are being put forward all the new, up to the introduction of the American army. By the way, since China and Taiwan are legally the same state, it is their internal business, which laws to adopt and I'm sorry, there is nothing for any Deutsche Welle to poke his nose where the dog is ... well, then you are in the know.
              In conclusion, about "watch your hands", let me remind you a question - please indicate the source of information about the Taiwanese "local thieving authorities and elite"? You are sure that they themselves are creating the revolutionary situation and that "abroad" has nothing to do with it. Something I do not remember the demands of the protesters to remove the local corrupt elite.
              1. -2
                11 September 2019 14: 15
                Well, you see, you learned the lesson perfectly and even applied it in practice. But you are trying to interpret the obtained data in favor of your theory, but it will not work. The conflict there is about a completely different matter, and the fact that "legally" Taiwan and China are one state - so this opinion is not shared by everyone and is not considered an internal affair. So, do not pull sour to green by the ears. Study the issue further.
                1. +2
                  15 September 2019 07: 11
                  I'll tell you a secret. To ensure the collapse and mess in the country, you must first arrange it in your head. Well, like you. Nothing personal, I'm figurative. Such then will make a revolution, and perestroika, and even the devil knows what. The goal is to destroy, not build.
        3. +3
          10 September 2019 21: 34
          Quote: shpakov.alex
          ... if you remove all Western agents of influence, the country will not become more prosperous and calmer, since the source of the problem is inside, not outside.

          And in order to divert people's attention from this source, an image of an external enemy is needed. I completely agree with you. You cannot simultaneously follow the recommendations of the IMF, and at the same time tell the people about sovereignty with a blue eye, and be surprised at the lack of respect from the authors of the "international rules of conduct."
          Well, it does not fit with one another - from the word in any way.
        4. -2
          20 September 2019 20: 25
          Quote: shpakov.alex
          So, if you remove all Western agents of influence, the country will not become more prosperous and calmer, since the source of the problem is inside, not outside.

          A great comment that is hard to disagree with.
    2. 0
      11 September 2019 12: 31
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      ... the reaction of our respective bodies to the way in which the work of our diplomats in the United States hinders is surprising, so where is the response to the rudeness and arbitrariness of the US State Department?

      You read the article carefully before calling for retaliatory actions. There is nothing to answer yet. The Fashington Region is still discussing the possibility of imposing restrictions on Russian diplomats in 2020. And it is not a fact that they will enter, fearing our response.
    3. 0
      17 September 2019 13: 12
      Not just "concern," but "deep concern!" or "terrible silence!"
  2. -2
    10 September 2019 11: 36
    Lumped everything together again. If the population of Russia is really, in general, satisfied with foreign policy, with the exception of a few "buts", then the population of Russia is really tired of domestic policy. The population is tired of robbery by the authorities through taxes, through pension reforms, through the maintenance of all sorts of pseudo-brother regimes over the hill, through the maintenance of the families of officials (Putin's friends, by the way), through the maintenance of some incomprehensible bandit formations "Rosguard" that beat and maim the people who came out into the streets and peacefully declared to the authorities that they had been stolen. In these elections of local authorities, United Russia was substituted as never before. How, with the total hatred of the entire population of Russia, you can get the leading number of votes ?! Only through forgery, which they did.
    1. +4
      10 September 2019 13: 51
      And did it not occur to you that domestic policy is being built not without looking at external factors? And domestic politics is more of a crisis, because outside of us by no means democracy has dug up all borders with saliva.
      Personally, I have only one question for domestic politics - why are such liberal-ingratiating approaches to outright enemies of the people and practically in wartime? Sitting behind a stolen package of buckwheat from a store is more realistic than stealing billions from the budget, and this is not a joke.
      If one has already taken a course towards a tough position in foreign policy, the domestic should be consistent. And then the faculty with the Russian Guard slid to the chase after the peasants with a can of beer. Heroes
      1. -1
        10 September 2019 15: 08
        So analyze domestic politics and answer the question - which side are some things a continuation of foreign? How does the confrontation with the collective West translate into the fact that families of the leadership of the Russian Guard, for example (and other elites, and not only security officials) live abroad and own large real estate there? How does this confrontation with the West lead, on the one hand, to the impoverishment of the masses, and, on the other, to monetary constipation among the ruling clans? Do not all sectors of society have to take part in the defense of the country in moments of danger? Well and so on, examples of illogicality are just the sea. So, domestic policy has nothing to do with foreign, and generally contradicts it.
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          0
          10 September 2019 21: 09
          Please share a link to information about

          ... the families of the leadership of the Russian Guard and other security officials who live abroad and own large real estate there.

          It's not just your feeling and guesses, right?
          1. 0
            11 September 2019 07: 46
            Yes of course. And the General of the Rosguard Zolotov himself publicly slandered. Myself and their colleagues. There is so much information that even the deafblind can no longer pretend that she knows nothing.
            1. 123
              0
              11 September 2019 10: 15
              Come on, do not evade, please)))))) With my vision, everything is fine so far, with hearing too, but the information you specified has not been met. The answer is very similar to "everyone knows this", "all progressive humanity thinks so." Please give a link to the source of information, where Zolotov himself and his colleagues stipulated. As he promised to trample Navalny's face in the ring in the seat - I know, I haven’t seen anything about foreign property. Be kind to people. Please share a source of crystal clear, truthful information.
              1. +1
                11 September 2019 11: 21
                Quote: 123
                Please share a source of crystal clear, truthful information.

                Why are you so restless? Wanted crystal clear information? This is a fabulous guarantor. He will share with you what forced him to sign the law on pension reform or how long he was persuaded to add words to the constitution and strain for two new terms. You either yourself from this thieves team, where is this:



                gives absolutely honest information why his salary - the salary of the minister - is higher than the salary of the president and head of government.
                And he knows everything, and that's all he achieved ... So share your achievements with us ... Or are you the same Hero of Russia as Kiriyenko? Or have you already hung the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called on your chest?
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                  0
                  11 September 2019 15: 04
                  Well, the order, unfortunately, I can not see. A similar lexicon does not suit you; If only Tit is not your friend and like-minded person, then maybe in the future it will come in handy. Behave wrong.
                  You have offended a lot of people.
                  I looked through the video for the link. Watch this dull ..... can only be flawed. By the way, do you know that they are financed from abroad? In another way, the channel simply does not pay off. There are few people who want to watch eternal nagging. In the video there is nothing about Zolotov and his subordinates. Siluanov’s salary doesn’t interest me; I’m not used to counting other people's money. As I understand it, they simply came up with Zolotov? In this case, you are acting very nasty and mean. This, you know, is slander. Please do not write anymore. Vilely to communicate.
                  1. 0
                    11 September 2019 16: 52
                    By the way, do you know that they are financed from abroad?

                    So what?! All the "Kiselyovs / Solovyovs" in our country are financed from the Kremlin and very generously, so generously that there is enough money because of the mound they care about. Completely dumb propaganda.

                    Siluanov’s salary doesn’t interest me; I’m not used to counting other people's money.

                    And his salary is just our money. So, we count our own. And we believe that this employee is not worth a penny.

                    As I understand it, they simply came up with Zolotov?

                    Perhaps the Internet has already been cleaned. Especially for you, I will not look for anything, for me this topic is closed and exhausted. But a lot of people managed to see, and read, and discuss. Moreover, a lot of public people discussed this topic and Zolotov’s monologues. By the way, why didn't Zolotov sue anyone for slander? After all, it seems, he threatened. And in response to this, he received the disclosure of new information about himself and his family. And after that, smart people from the Kremlin ordered him to shut up and not shoot the office ....
              2. 0
                11 September 2019 14: 26
                Come on, do not evade, please))))))

                So do not shirk. If you do not want to meet this information, then how can I make you meet it ?! Well, remember? Zolotov personally talked about the successful son-businessman, and about the gifted granddaughter who teaches English in the host country, and that everything he has in Russia and beyond the hill is earned, and what and what is earned for - he won’t say, well and so on .... He would shut up with his intellect, but he does not understand that he merges himself, trying to brutally run over. And then you heard here, but here you have not heard. Not seriously. You, my dear, understand, I have no purpose to convince or convince you of something personally, and your position and arguments do not interest me much. But others read our correspondence / skirmish and draw their conclusions from this information. Moreover, they themselves, without coercion in one direction or another, draw conclusions based on their personal perception of the world.
          2. 0
            20 September 2019 13: 14
            123, here he dumped rainy manure for you .... or he could have "imposed" something from the "echo of matzo" - for them these are unquestionable authorities, like their king and boh - the khodor.
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              +1
              20 September 2019 16: 33
              And I did not expect another, the bird can be seen by litter.
        2. 0
          10 September 2019 21: 44
          Quote: shpakov.alex
          ... domestic politics has nothing to do with foreign, and generally contradicts it.

          Why not? Finances are withdrawn from the population internally in the form of taxes (direct and hidden, such as raising the age for retirement and VAT) and, among other things, invested externally in "high-quality foreign assets" - of course, with the aim of "saving for future generations."
          There are no contradictions - just the same, there is complete harmony.
          And since the turnout at the 2019 election did not exceed 43% on average, it means that citizens are generally satisfied with this state of affairs.
          1. 0
            11 September 2019 07: 48
            What is the turnout ?! Whether you go to the polls or not - it does not matter at all. Turnout is rigged, and the voting results. I myself worked part time in the elections in the 90s, I know the kitchen.
            1. +2
              11 September 2019 11: 50
              Quote: shpakov.alex
              Turnout is rigged, and the voting results.

              The low turnout raises doubts about legitimacy, which fuels the protest.
              Not caught, not a thief. And so that, in principle, they could not catch (my opinion) - electronic voting is conceived as something for which, in principle, it is impossible to provide independent observation - all that remains is to blindly trust "the party and the people."
              Now it is recognized as "successful" and under the label of "digitalization-modernization" for the elections to the State Duma in 2021, it will be implemented throughout the country.
              And then, when the "controllability of democracy" reaches the absolute, the VAT will be raised again (to 2017% recommended by the IMF in 22) and pensions will be canceled without any unnecessary reservations like "freezing" savings and IPC / IPP.
              1. 0
                11 September 2019 14: 32
                As for digital voting, you correctly noted. The election institute, in principle, works only in a small team, where all electors personally know the candidate for the post. In a large society, this does not work. But in a large society, it would be possible to at least ensure the reality of the voting process through the abolition of anonymity, so that each member of the public in the public domain could control whether his vote was correctly taken into account. But they will never refuse anonymity under the guise of taking care of us, in order to, like, protect those who voted for another from revenge of the victorious candidate.
      2. +3
        10 September 2019 21: 53
        Quote: g1washntwn
        If one has already taken a course towards a tough position in foreign policy, the domestic should be consistent.

        Exactly. Who are we on the boards of directors of "national treasures" - foreign citizens, you say? Ah, these are the shareholders ... well, then you can, of course.
    2. -4
      10 September 2019 14: 30
      Kaaak interesting you argue! If you are COMPLETELY not satisfied with the internal policy of the state in which you live, then isn't it easier to change your country? Pick a state for yourself in which the internal politics suits you completely. Explain, please, what kind of "pseudo-brother regimes over the hill" does our state maintain? And you know such a concept as geopolitics (if you reduce this concept to simple Russian, it will turn out like this: "Whoever feeds a girl, he dances!").
      Regarding the "bandit formations" - are you going to tell me here where my son serves, guarding such people as you are at rallies that you ILLEGALLY arrange, interfering with all other citizens? Don't you think that if these "gangs" won't protect you, the people will simply knead you into the mud? I have fists itching for woodpeckers like you for a long time ... That would be great. if men in uniform would stop covering you with YOURSELF !!! And ALMOST all my acquaintances and friends are in solidarity with me. Who are we? And we are simple hard workers (locksmiths, builders, teachers, doctors ...), whom you do not allow to have a normal rest with your family on a single weekend, interfere with driving on business on the road, interfere with our screams (the head is already from you, idiots, it hurts) ... Just give us the opportunity to remove these National Guards from you - find out what the people think of you!
      Remember, the liberda is kreaklovaya, as soon as the state stops protecting you (or, God forbid, you manage to overthrow the "regime"), you will be destroyed, and possibly physically! And this is not a threat - this is a WARNING of the very people that you despise and consider as tragic (what you yell at every corner)!
      PS
      Dear editors! Please do not delete this comment until the citizen to whom it is intended reads it! And there - at your discretion. These "figures" were painfully loose, insulting our intelligence officers and the state!
      .................................................. ................................ with uv. R.A.
      1. +3
        10 September 2019 15: 27
        Kaaak interestingly you are the one talking! Let the ruling elite change the country, as they once fled in 1917, dropping their slippers. Moreover, they already have everything there. And you, I see, the concept of "geopolitics" is known in some perverse form. Come on, the numbers in the studio, who and how much owes us from foreign "friends of the regime" and who worked as an investment. And all this banquet at the expense of their own people, from whom they took away and distributed to other countries and peoples. So ours have a lot to learn from the Anglo-Saxons and other "Germans".
        So who are the men (?) In uniform shielding !? And who was crippled and for what ?! You recall how the gendarmes a hundred years ago, people tore to pieces alive alive? And for what - to remind? You and your son are the defenders of thieves, and hiding behind false patriotism is your everything, but it won’t do it, just like it didn’t do for Cossacks and gendarmes in 1917.
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          20 September 2019 13: 03
          And you do not equal those times and these. In those days, the working day of an ordinary worker in a factory was 10-12 hours. There’s nothing to say about payment. This alone reduced the life of the working people to 40-50 years. About child labor and child mortality, too? The attitude towards the working people until 1917 was like cattle. ... This was one of the reasons for the overthrow of the old system.
          The current situation is completely different. And if you are not satisfied with the current realities so much that you are ready to overthrow the government, then remind you of the 90s? Was everything great then? Who were you at the time? And something tells me that you do not know the realities of those years at all and you have never been threatened with a barrel or rushed at you with a knife. Therefore, you cannot understand those who have gone through it. Whoever went through this NEVER, you hear, NEVER wants to return to the chaos that we had in the 90s and what "Ukraine" is going through now (and after all, by offering the OVERCOMING of the current government, you ONCE want to open the "Pandora's box" these same 90s ???). And therefore, we will resist this with all our might - right up to helping the police and the National Guards. If you are such a fan of Maidans, go to the ukram. That's where your justice is! And we, who have gone through the collapse once, do not want a repetition, and therefore (as the elections showed this time, and last times), no matter how (in your opinion) the government was corrupted, to demolish it by the Nazi (and any other) we will not allow coups. After all, it is people like you and those like you who supported the wrestling-drunk with the collapse of our homeland in the early 90s. It was your "Gaidars" who then came and brought the country to such a state that there were months (if not days) left before the collapse of central Russia. And GDP managed to prevent this collapse with great difficulty. And now you decided to prove to me that he was wrong? Oh well...
          YOU HAVE LEAD THIS ELITE TO THE AUTHORITY (and its other institutions, as they are now) !!! And now she does not suit you again?
          Therefore, the warning (once) was already to you and to people like you in 2011. Then you were bypassed by the punishment of the people. There won't be another time. Your horns in the form of various "rains" and "echoes of matzah" should be covered for a long time, as well as the Yekaterinburg Eltsyn Center. And other NGO-NGOs too. It is necessary to give a political, social, economic assessment of the 90s and the "creators" of the "free hand of the market". Whoever has the opportunity - to punish by the LAW! (and not as you suggest - OVERCOME)
          PS About the debts "ryzhYmu" - this is to those of your patrons from the very 90s who forgave these debts. But LDNR and Pridnestrovie, with South Ossetia and Abkhazia - yes, these must be supported! These are OUR PEOPLE who did not want to be amers' beddings (like their former owners - Ukrainians, Moldovans and Georgians). And we SHOULD them - for keeping silent when we tore apart the USSR, not defending OUR Homeland, not defending them!
    3. +1
      15 September 2019 07: 12
      Thank God that you and a handful of these are not the whole population of Russia.
  3. +3
    10 September 2019 18: 27
    What is the point of concluding some kind of agreement with a country that does not comply with these agreements?
  4. +7
    10 September 2019 21: 37
    The bloodiest conquerors:

    Alexander the Great - type Greek,
    Huns with Attila,
    Charlemagne is the first European integrator,
    Mongols of Genghis Khan,
    Uzbek Tamerlan,
    Ottoman butchers
    The conquistadors who destroyed the continent
    Napoleon Bonaparte - European Integrator No. 2,
    Eurocolonizers - slave trade, poisoning of peoples, exhaustion of resources,
    Japan, which killed about 30 million Chinese,
    Hitler Germany,
    USA - the extermination of the Indians, the slave trade, the bombing, coups, wars non-stop ...

    In general, the world is just groaning from Russian aggression ...
    1. +1
      11 September 2019 07: 58
      That's right (plus I put it to you), but the Russians are moaning from the Russian aggression. All of the "great shakers of the universe" listed by you gathered their people into a gang and went to rob their neighbors. Their own people, it seems, are in a share with the case, and the conquered neighbors went to slaves and indemnities. And now let's consider the Russian version - its population is in slavery (fortress), but the "conquered" neighbors have all the best for free at the expense of their own. I don’t remember the serf Tatars, Chechens, Chukchi, Bashkirs and other nationalities. Everyone was given civilization, statehood, industry, energy, medicine, education, cities were rebuilt. And so for centuries, that under the kings, that under the communists, that under Putin again begins. Russians are a tough people, but not two-core or stupid.
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      2. +1
        20 September 2019 13: 08
        Therefore, the people will no longer admit YOU to power (YOUR 90s were enough for us), for you, the "shakers of power", whoever is in this very power (except yourself) are not acceptable to you. That is why we will not let any "bulk sables" get close to the authorities!
  5. +3
    11 September 2019 06: 34
    Bad Americans, Syrians, Ukrainians, Georgians - but anyone, no matter what, demands from us some incredible filth, they interfere with life, and in general, breathe calmly! And the good ones, ours, loved ones to tears - just under this hype they raise prices, ages, and pull, pull, pull in your pocket! Another yacht is being built, another palace is being built - and? Silence ... But each sneeze and a bunch of very bad ones will be counted, and for each there will be a lengthy sheet of the article.
  6. 0
    11 September 2019 13: 41
    This is how the States make extracts from Hitler's "Mein Kapf" and push them, passing off as their thoughts.
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  9. +1
    17 September 2019 12: 41
    What remains for the United States to do? Yes, only to threaten and bribe bulk inside our country to weaken power. Nothing to deal with. We just have no other way but to go forward
    1. 0
      20 September 2019 13: 12
      Here, too, several white-ribbon "power-shakers" were noted ...