"The United States begins to be rude": the worst between Moscow and Washington is yet to come

The very specific and clear answer given by the heads of the Russian defense and diplomatic departments - Sergei Shoigu and Sergey Lavrov to the public boorish demarche of the Pentagon’s head Mike Esper, is, in fact, not just another proof that these high-ranking Russian policy do not climb. In fact, this is a completely unambiguously expressed position of our state, which determines the vector of further development of relations between Moscow and Washington. If you want - expressed in an extremely harsh form, the refusal to surrender.




But maybe it wasn’t worth chopping off just like that? Perhaps it was necessary to try to find compromises, to try to "normalize" something there again, or even to "reboot"? Well, no ... All recent events convincingly prove that there are simply no other options for "communication" with the United States acceptable to Russia.

And hand over the weapon ...


In the talk about the “abnormality” of the behavior of our country, the head of the United States Department of Defense, vigorously wandering around Europe with the aim of putting together either an anti-Iranian coalition, or an anti-Russian (and, most likely, both), noted in Paris. His speech at the Royal Institute for Defense Research, held in the capital of Misty Albion, is no less revealing. In his London speech, Mr. Esper said that his country was ready to make even more efforts to “contain the aggression of Russia”, which, in his opinion, manifests itself “not only in Eastern Europe”, but almost “in all regions of the world ". You see, he dreamed of "authoritarian regimes that redraw the global security system in their favor at the expense of other states." As the “most authoritarian,” the head of the Pentagon openly named our country. That is, on the one hand, he urges us to “accept Western values, change behavior” and “move forward,” and on the other, without even waiting for an answer to this message, he declares an implacable struggle against Russia! Lovely ...

However, what exactly means a “change of behavior” to “normal” in the understanding of this high-flying Washington official, it became clear even before his appointment to a senior position in the US Armed Forces. Speaking at the relevant Senate hearings on the consideration by American lawmakers of a candidate for the most important military post, Esper made more than an eloquent statement. In his opinion, the START-3 treaty can be renegotiated between Moscow and Washington only if it includes an item on full control of all Russian nuclear weapons, up to tactical charges! How do you like the scope? "Wishlist" of this scale, in fact, make you think about the normality of Esper himself. And at the same time, they give an excellent idea of ​​what kind of behavior of Russia he sees as acceptable. Essentially, they do not even demand from us complete and unconditional surrender, but voluntary suicide. What will happen to Russia, give it the keys to its own nuclear arsenals in the "good" American hands, you do not even have to specify. Especially, in light of the fact that, even without the slightest hope of receiving them, Washington, nevertheless, is stubbornly trying to behave with our country as if it were its own colony.

"The people of Russia are tired!"


It was this statement that was published publicly and in print, using The Washington Times as a mouthpiece, recently by two members of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Michael McCall and Eliot Engel. In their opinion, our fellow citizens, exhausted to the limit, whose troubles and hardships they take so close to heart, from the unbearable "tyranny of Putin", which "does not stop at anything to brutally suppress any political protest." They, you know, from Washington know better ... And if so, then the “shining light of world democracy” in the person of the United States is simply obliged, without stopping for a second, to fall down with all its might on the enemies that have settled in the Kremlin and not just “support the Russian people in their struggle for freedom ”, but also“ bring those responsible for violating human rights to severe responsibility ”. If you think that these are exceptionally loud words, then in vain. Just last week, these two clowns seriously began to demand that Donald Trump impose new sanctions against our country! According to their senatorial understanding, a new portion of some particularly severe restrictions, to its people "tormented by tyranny", will definitely benefit.

And even tried to bring the legal base under this case, damned! Like, “beaten up, arrested, imprisoned”, and, most importantly, “intimidated to the utmost by the authorities”, the participants in “thousands of peaceful demonstrations and rallies” frankly scream revenge. This is a direct violation by Moscow of its "obligations under the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe"! (And what is your American relationship before that, even if it were so ?!) And, therefore, the State Department and the White House should immediately apply sanctions against Russia in accordance with the Magnitsky Act, so that it doesn’t seem a little! Alas, all these ugly antics, which are nothing more than a standard of interference in the purely internal affairs of a sovereign power, do not at all boil down to amusements of senatorial idiots and cheap political PR. The United Nations joined the company almost immediately, which has long turned into an obedient puppet of Washington. As soon as the team heard the voice: “Voice!”, And now Michelle Bachelet, the whole UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, sharply worried about the fate of the Moscow “opposition” party, “throws the masses” a call “to investigate the events of protests” in our capital. For example, to "figure out" whether the police really used violence. And also in how justifiably the police themselves acted ... Well, well, dear, you weren’t so excited when the "yellow vests" swept in Paris? And to this day, lupus, by the way. Maybe you’ll investigate from there and start?

Spy games no longer hide


However, restoring order in Moscow, which led to the failure of yet another attempt to organize a Maidan there, worries Washington not so much as the problems that may arise when the next one is arranged. And the fact that actions aimed precisely at this is being undertaken and will be undertaken by representatives of the United States in the future does not even try to hide it! On the contrary, Washington experts today are discussing with might and main the extremely burning issue regarding section 1075 of the law on budgetary appropriations for next year. This paragraph of a very voluminous document states that in 2020, the US Secretary of State will be obliged to demand detailed information from Moscow about all, without exception, the movements of her diplomats on American territory. And immediately transmit the data to the FBI and National Intelligence. For some in Washington's highest echelons of power, this idea was extremely unpleasant and caused a flurry of criticism. Do you think that this is precisely a violation of the very “rights and freedoms” for which the United States is ready to tear the throats of everyone and everyone? Due to the fact that such demands look like the most natural rudeness and the manifestation of utter distrust and disrespect for Russia? Do you really think so? I can only envy your naivety.

Washington seriously (and, it must be said, not without good reason) fears that the “Russian barbarians” will immediately give a mirror answer to this demarche. Well, just like during the “diplomatic war” that erupted between the countries over the “Skripals case”. Do you expel six dozen of our representatives? Well, and we will give exactly the same number of yours under the knee ... Do you close the Consulate in Seattle? Well, that’s not how yours can be in St. Petersburg! An official letter of protest in this regard to the Senate Committee on the Armed Forces was sent signed by the acting director of the administrative and budgetary administration of the White House, Russell Vouta. However, there is no doubt that the text of this masterpiece of the epistolary genre was dictated to him from the Pentagon and the CIA. Why? And you will appreciate only one quote:

... The possible restriction of Russian travel by our diplomats will undermine their ability to work relatively freely in Russia to advance US interests!


Believe me, I did not exaggerate and did not overestimate anything - that’s exactly how it is written. Truly American simplicity, which, as the Russian barbarians say, is clearly worse than theft.

After that, the newspaper sensation now inflated in the USA about the alleged “evacuation from Moscow of the CIA’s most important agent working in the highest echelons of the Kremlin’s power” conducted in 2017 no longer seems delusional, much less ridiculous b were not denied her in Langley and the White House. Spies, bastards, and then they are going to spy! They did subversive work and will lead! But along the way - demanding from us to “change behavior” and “become normal” ... Yes, by the way, about normality. Here the other day, one of the US presidential candidates, Bernie Sanders (he seems to be running for Democrats), speaking to the voters, voiced a simply wonderful proposal: to limit the birth rate in poor countries by “making it easier for women to have access to abortion”! You know, I deeply spit, does Mr. Sanders know that this thesis fully repeats the proposals for "inferior peoples" expressed in the SS developed and delighted his boss Heinrich Himmler with the "General Plan Ost". It is enough for me that ideas coincide one to one. If it is precisely these “democratic values” that we are offered to accept for “moving forward”, then I completely agree with Shoigu and Lavrov - let’s better “we will be abnormal”. And the longer the better.
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  1. kartalovkolya Offline
    kartalovkolya 10 September 2019 09: 17
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    Surprising is the reaction of our respective bodies to the way in which the work of our diplomats is hindered in the United States, so where are the response to the rudeness and arbitrariness of the American State Department? It is time to limit the movement of US diplomats (read spies) outside the Garden Ring, and especially active "instructors" and organizers of "protests" in Moscow, to kick out of Russia without the right to visit for life! Or our Foreign Ministry will again and again express "concern" !!!
    1. Tolik_74 Offline
      Tolik_74 (Anatoly) 10 September 2019 13: 35
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      Why throw out, close each diplomat for 25 years old, and there are no problems.
      1. shpakov.alex Offline
        shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 10 September 2019 16: 25
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        Well, tell me about the theory of color revolutions. So, let's say, in Switzerland, you can arrange a color revolution? The answer is no. And why? And because the revolution cannot be made from scratch just by will, but it can be stirred up (revolution) only where everything is not successful. Is trouble in other Obama countries or is it still the local thieving authorities and elites? Yes, the United States takes advantage of internal dysfunction in other countries in its interests, but they do not create a revolutionary situation in these countries. There it is created by local thieving foolish leaders. So, if you remove all Western agents of influence, the country will not become more prosperous and calmer, since the source of the problem is inside, not outside.
        1. Pishenkov Offline
          Pishenkov (Alexey) 10 September 2019 17: 58
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          About the theory of color revolutions, I can quite tell you. And in Switzerland, you can arrange it yourself, if someone needs it. More difficult, of course, than in Egypt or Tunisia, but it is also possible, the question of price. And there will be problems, and foolish leaders, and "popular indignation" will be drawn, and posters with fists of different colors directly against the background of the Swiss cross, everything will be, don’t worry ... Only for now it’s not profitable for anyone in Switzerland - the Communists , and the capitalists, and the terrorists, etc., the money is. And while they are lying, there will not be any revolutions there. But how to end - wait for trouble ...
          1. shpakov.alex Offline
            shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 07: 43
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            Well, contradict yourself. What does the money mean ?! Can Switzerland really physically protect this money ?! Do not make me laugh. Give at least one example of a prosperous country in which it was possible to rock a revolution or a military coup from scratch. There are no such examples. Standing apart are relatively prosperous countries, in which they succeeded in shifting the regime by force, having accumulated any armed shobla at the borders. But here again the question is: was everything all right in that country, if citizens instead of protecting the country chose to dump massively from there?
            1. Pishenkov Offline
              Pishenkov (Alexey) 11 September 2019 15: 55
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              Switzerland does not need to protect money, because they (these money) have such powerful owners that, as I said, while they are lying, no one will touch them. This is the tacit agreement of all those who have them there.
              Now relatively prosperous countries. Yugoslavia and Libya were quite prosperous until they began to interfere strongly with some people; the social programs there were such that modern Switzerland never dreamed of. Another example is Czechoslovakia, a strong and industrialized state where people lived quite comfortably too, they also ruined him directly from the United States, and the first president of an independent Czech Republic, Havel, who simply spent years on the salary of the CIA, did not even deny it. Only the Czechs, thank God, had the brains to do without partition and collapse without bloodshed.
              1. shpakov.alex Offline
                shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 16: 39
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                Yugoslavia and Libya did not fall apart through revolution. They were simply bombed. With the Czech Republic, too, not through a revolution.
                1. Pishenkov Offline
                  Pishenkov (Alexey) 11 September 2019 16: 55
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                  You obviously do not know the materiel. In Yugoslavia, a revolution and a civil war began on religious and national grounds, which, in fact, have not ended so far. And instead of a large and strong (and very intractable) country, now on the map are acne without its own army and economy, easily controlled separately from the outside. Serbia, already a separate country, was bombed, and much later, it also turned out to be intractable ...
                  With Libya, the theme is the same, only in the quintessence, both in time and in the development of events, everything is much faster and easier - they bombed the "barbarian regime" that impedes the manifestations of the "movement towards freedom." Because they quickly realized that the local insulting "revolutionaries" without external military assistance, Gaddafi will quickly spread across the wall ...
                  And in Czechoslovakia there was a natural revolution, the Czechs themselves call it the "velvet revolution", because it was practically bloodless, like the subsequent division of the country ...
                  1. A.Lex Offline
                    A.Lex (Secret information) 20 September 2019 13: 21
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                    Aleksey, and this is one of those for whom the 90s are “saints” (whom they no longer allow to the trough today) - from there he is a “sway of the authorities”, from where “sable heaps are dumped”.
              2. Savigne Offline
                Savigne 20 September 2019 21: 14
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                Quote: Pyshenkov
                Yugoslavia and Libya were quite prosperous until they began to interfere with some people,

                What nonsense.
                While Tito was alive, he held Yugoslavia with an iron hand. As soon as he died this artificial formation collapsed into its component parts under the weight of internal contradictions.
                Exactly the same thing would have happened with the USSR in the 50s if there had not been a war.
                Gaddafi was able to seize power in Libya. But he could not impose his authoritarian regime on the Libyans. Therefore, he simply bribed local barons. When his money ran out (blocked accounts), these barons simply cocked him. As a useless and even harmful object for them.

                Quote: Pyshenkov
                Another example is Czechoslovakia

                Czechoslovakia is generally an artificial education from the very beginning. Punishment to the Slovaks for their participation in the war on the side of Germany. Neither the Czechs nor the Slovaks wanted to live together. And they did not, as soon as such an opportunity appeared.
          2. A.Lex Offline
            A.Lex (Secret information) 20 September 2019 13: 24
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            Alexei, don’t swing the beads ... There’s no one to do - prove nothing to such a thing, just waste your time and nerves. This is one of the admirers of your maydauns (are you from the former USSR?).
            1. Pishenkov Offline
              Pishenkov (Alexey) 20 September 2019 13: 28
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              Yes, I don’t seem to like a sword ... In general, by origin, not from there, but from the former capital of the former USSR laughing , although, for example, I have a grandmother and maternal grandfather from Ukraine ... That is, I am such a typical Soviet product wink
              1. A.Lex Offline
                A.Lex (Secret information) 20 September 2019 19: 46
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                Well then, excuse me - for some reason it seemed ... Ahh ... This is a peep from us from there ...
                1. Pishenkov Offline
                  Pishenkov (Alexey) 23 September 2019 09: 26
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                  It’s okay, I wouldn’t be ashamed to be a Ukrainian if I were. I wouldn’t be born there right now, but at a decent time wink when there was something to be proud of
          3. Savigne Offline
            Savigne 20 September 2019 20: 27
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            Quote: Pyshenkov
            About the theory of color revolutions, I can quite tell you.

            It would be fun to listen, especially since there are no color revolutions. Does not exist in wildlife. This is an invention of the "TV".
        2. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 10 September 2019 21: 05
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          The revolution in Switzerland? Yes, easily)))) Do not forget that in Switzerland there is the main condition for the revolution - the American embassy. Remember, the secrets of bank deposits in Switzerland are no more, the Americans asked for everything. The weak point of the Swiss elite is the wallet. In which case, they will be hinted, like Yanukovych, that it’s not good to offend “children”, because there will be problems with banks and the franc will cease to be a reliable currency, and then it’s a matter of technology. It remains only to explain to the German-speaking majority that all “Svidomo” Swiss should speak German, and the French-speaking population of the west of the country (19%) are very similar to separatists, in the south there are 8% of the unbearable lazy Italians who prevent the country from becoming truly great, and there are also about 20% of the large numbers of foreigners who have come to blame for everything. Bleeding these 4 populations is very simple. You just need to explain to the French, Italians and "come in large numbers" how exactly the Germans oppress them. And this is what American diplomats can do, the technology has been worked out. Yes, cookies must be delivered. By the way, please share information on the Taiwanese "local thieving foolish leaders," it is very interesting to read.
          1. shpakov.alex Offline
            shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 08: 09
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            By the way, please share information on the Taiwanese "local thieving foolish leaders," it is very interesting to read.

            I will give you not a fish, but a fishing rod, and I will teach you how to fish. Follow hands and repeat movements, the method is universal and works for everything. Drive in a search engine: "What is Taiwan Striking Against" and read articles. All! You will find the answer.
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 11 September 2019 10: 53
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              You, please, drive your hands slower, I'm recording. I took your advice literally. I did not learn much new. The first link to "DW", a very biased organization, is funded from the German state budget, and it was very interesting to write and show about elections and protests. In our times, it is customary to introduce sanctions for this. The article painted very picturesquely how poor Taiwan asks for a "progressive world community" to protect against evil China.
              Did you read anything besides this? Protests began after the law on extradition to China.
              As early as July 15, Hong Kong authorities officially stopped the process of passing the bill; in August, the draft law on extradition to China was withdrawn. Since initially everything was focused on confrontation, the recall of the law, of course, did not help. Demands are being put forward all the new, up to the introduction of the American army. By the way, since China and Taiwan are legally the same state, it is their internal business, which laws to adopt and I'm sorry, there is nothing for any Deutsche Welle to poke his nose where the dog is ... well, then you are in the know.
              In conclusion, about “follow your hands”, I’ll remind you a question - please indicate the source of information about Taiwan’s “local thieving power and elite”? You are sure that they create a revolutionary situation themselves and that the “foreign country” has nothing to do with it. Something I do not remember the demands of the protesters about the removal of the local corrupt elite.
              1. shpakov.alex Offline
                shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 14: 15
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                Well, you see, the lesson you learned is "excellent" and even put into practice. But here you are trying to interpret the obtained data in favor of your theory, and will not work. The conflict there is for a completely different reason, and the fact that Taiwan and China are “legally” one state — this opinion is not exactly shared by everyone and is not considered an internal affair. So, do not attract sour to green ears. Study the question further.
                1. Joe Cook Offline
                  Joe Cook (Joe Cook) 15 September 2019 07: 11
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                  I'll tell you a secret. To ensure the collapse and mess in the country, you must first arrange it in your head. Well, like you. Nothing personal, I'm figurative. Such then will make a revolution, and perestroika, and even the devil knows what. The goal is to destroy, not build.
        3. Digital error Offline
          Digital error (Eugene) 10 September 2019 21: 34
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          Quote: shpakov.alex
          ... if you remove all Western agents of influence, the country will not become more prosperous and calmer, since the source of the problem is inside, not outside.

          And in order to divert the attention of the people from this source, an image of an external enemy is needed. I completely agree with you. It is impossible to follow IMF recommendations at the same time, and at the same time tell the people with blue eyes about sovereignty, and be surprised at the lack of respect from the authors of the "international rules of conduct."
          Well, it does not fit with one another - from the word in any way.
        4. Savigne Offline
          Savigne 20 September 2019 20: 25
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          Quote: shpakov.alex
          So, if you remove all Western agents of influence, the country will not become more prosperous and calmer, since the source of the problem is inside, not outside.

          A great comment that is hard to disagree with.
    2. Nick Offline
      Nick (Nikolai) 11 September 2019 12: 31
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      Quote: kartalovkolya
      ... the reaction of our respective bodies to the way in which the work of our diplomats in the United States hinders is surprising, so where is the response to the rudeness and arbitrariness of the US State Department?

      You read the article carefully before calling for retaliatory action. There is nothing to answer yet. The Fashington region is still discussing the possibility of introducing restrictions on Russian diplomats in 2020. And not the fact that they will enter, fearing our otvetki.
    3. Alexander Bushkovsky (Alexander) 17 September 2019 13: 12
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      Not just “concern,” but “deep concern!” or "formidable silence!"
  2. shpakov.alex Offline
    shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 10 September 2019 11: 36
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    Again he dumped everything in one pile. If the foreign policy of the population of Russia is really, in general, quite, with the exception of a few "buts", then the population of Russia is really tired of domestic politics. The population is tired of the robbery of power through taxes, through pension reforms, through the maintenance of all kinds of pseudo-brotherly regimes over the hill, through the maintenance of the families of officials (Putin’s friends, by the way), through the maintenance of some obscure “Russian Guard” gangs that beat and maim the people who came out to the streets and peacefully declared to the authorities that they were stolen. In this election of local authorities, United Russia substituted itself as never before. As with the total hatred of the entire population of Russia, can one gain the leading number of votes ?! Only through forgery, which they did.
    1. g1washntwn Offline
      g1washntwn (George Washington) 10 September 2019 13: 51
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      And did it not occur to you that domestic policy is being built not without looking at external factors? And domestic politics is more of a crisis, because outside of us by no means democracy has dug up all borders with saliva.
      Personally, I have only one question for domestic politics - why are such liberal-ingratiating approaches to outright enemies of the people and practically in wartime? Sitting behind a stolen package of buckwheat from a store is more realistic than stealing billions from the budget, and this is not a joke.
      If one has already taken a course towards a tough position in foreign policy, the domestic should be consistent. And then the faculty with the Russian Guard slid to the chase after the peasants with a can of beer. Heroes
      1. shpakov.alex Offline
        shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 10 September 2019 15: 08
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        So analyze domestic politics and answer the question - which side are some things a continuation of foreign? How does the confrontation with the collective West translate into the fact that families of the leadership of the Russian Guard, for example (and other elites, and not only security officials) live abroad and own large real estate there? How does this confrontation with the West lead, on the one hand, to the impoverishment of the masses, and, on the other, to monetary constipation among the ruling clans? Do not all sectors of society have to take part in the defense of the country in moments of danger? Well and so on, examples of illogicality are just the sea. So, domestic policy has nothing to do with foreign, and generally contradicts it.
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 10 September 2019 21: 09
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          Please share a link to information about

          ... the families of the leadership of the Russian Guard and other security officials who live abroad and own large real estate there.

          It's not just your feeling and guesses, right?
          1. shpakov.alex Offline
            shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 07: 46
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            Yes of course. And the General of the Rosguard Zolotov himself publicly slandered. Myself and their colleagues. There is so much information that even the deafblind can no longer pretend that she knows nothing.
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 11 September 2019 10: 15
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              C'mon, don’t dodge, please))))))) So far, everything is fine with my vision, with hearing too, but the information you provided did not meet. The answer is very similar to "everyone knows this," "all progressive humanity thinks so." Please provide a link to a source of information, where Zolotov himself and his colleagues were mentioned. As he promised to trample in the saddle in the ring in the ring - I know, I haven’t met about foreign property. Be kinder to people. Please share a source of crystal clear, truthful information.
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                yuriy55 (Yuri Vasilievich) 11 September 2019 11: 21
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                Quote: 123
                Please share a source of crystal clear, truthful information.

                Why are you so restless? Wanted crystal clear information? This is a fabulous guarantor. He will share with you what forced him to sign the law on pension reform or how long he was persuaded to add words to the constitution and strain for two new terms. You either yourself from this thieves team, where is this:



                gives absolutely honest information why his salary - the salary of the minister - is higher than the salary of the president and head of government.
                And he knows everything, and that's all he achieved ... So share your achievements with us ... Or are you the same Hero of Russia as Kiriyenko? Or have you already hung the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called on your chest?
                1. 123 Offline
                  123 (123) 11 September 2019 15: 04
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                  Well, the order, unfortunately, I can not see. A similar lexicon does not suit you; If only Tit is not your friend and like-minded person, then maybe in the future it will come in handy. Behave wrong.
                  You have offended a lot of people.
                  I looked through the video for the link. Watch this dull ..... can only be flawed. By the way, do you know that they are financed from abroad? In another way, the channel simply does not pay off. There are few people who want to watch eternal nagging. In the video there is nothing about Zolotov and his subordinates. Siluanov’s salary doesn’t interest me; I’m not used to counting other people's money. As I understand it, they simply came up with Zolotov? In this case, you are acting very nasty and mean. This, you know, is slander. Please do not write anymore. Vilely to communicate.
                  1. shpakov.alex Offline
                    shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 16: 52
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                    By the way, do you know that they are financed from abroad?

                    So what?! We have all the “Kiselev / Soloviev’s” funded from the Kremlin and very generously, so generously that enough money is not enough to get out of the mound they cope with. Absolutely golimaya propaganda.

                    Siluanov’s salary doesn’t interest me; I’m not used to counting other people's money.

                    And his salary is just our money. So, we count our own. And we believe that this employee is not worth a penny.

                    As I understand it, they simply came up with Zolotov?

                    Perhaps the Internet has already been cleaned. Especially for you, I will not look for anything, for me this topic is closed and exhausted. But a lot of people managed to see, and read, and discuss. Moreover, a lot of public people discussed this topic and Zolotov’s monologues. By the way, why didn't Zolotov sue anyone for slander? After all, it seems, he threatened. And in response to this, he received the disclosure of new information about himself and his family. And after that, smart people from the Kremlin ordered him to shut up and not shoot the office ....
              2. shpakov.alex Offline
                shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 14: 26
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                Come on, do not evade, please))))))

                So do not shirk. If you do not want to meet this information, then how can I make you meet it ?! Well, remember? Zolotov personally talked about the successful son-businessman, and about the gifted granddaughter who teaches English in the host country, and that everything he has in Russia and beyond the hill is earned, and what and what is earned for - he won’t say, well and so on .... He would shut up with his intellect, but he does not understand that he merges himself, trying to brutally run over. And then you heard here, but here you have not heard. Not seriously. You, my dear, understand, I have no purpose to convince or convince you of something personally, and your position and arguments do not interest me much. But others read our correspondence / skirmish and draw their conclusions from this information. Moreover, they themselves, without coercion in one direction or another, draw conclusions based on their personal perception of the world.
          2. A.Lex Offline
            A.Lex (Secret information) 20 September 2019 13: 14
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            123, so he dumped you some rainy manure .... and he could have “imposed” something from the “echo matzah” - these are indisputable authorities for them, like their king and boh - hodor.
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 20 September 2019 16: 33
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              And I did not expect another, the bird can be seen by litter.
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          Digital error (Eugene) 10 September 2019 21: 44
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          ... domestic politics has nothing to do with foreign, and generally contradicts it.

          Well, why? Finances are withdrawn internally from the population in the form of taxes (direct and hidden, such as raising the retirement age and VAT) and, among other things, are invested externally in "high-quality foreign assets" - of course, with the aim of "saving for future generations."
          There are no contradictions - just the same, there is complete harmony.
          And since the turnout at the 2019 election did not exceed 43% on average, it means that citizens are generally satisfied with this state of affairs.
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            shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 07: 48
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            What is the turnout ?! Whether you go to the polls or not - it does not matter at all. Turnout is rigged, and the voting results. I myself worked part time in the elections in the 90s, I know the kitchen.
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              Digital error (Eugene) 11 September 2019 11: 50
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              Quote: shpakov.alex
              Turnout is rigged, and the voting results.

              The low turnout raises doubts about legitimacy, which fuels the protest.
              Not caught, not a thief. And so that, in principle, they could not catch (my opinion) - electronic voting was conceived as something for which, in principle, it is impossible to provide independent monitoring - all that remains is to blindly trust "the party and the people."
              Now it is recognized as "successful" and under the brand name of "digitalization-modernization" for the elections to the State Duma of 2021 they will be introduced everywhere in the country.
              And then, when the “controllability of democracy” reaches its absolute level, they will once again raise the VAT (up to 2017% recommended by the IMF in 22) and cancel their pensions without any unnecessary more reservations like “freezing” savings and IPC / IPP.
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                shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 14: 32
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                As for digital voting, you correctly noted. The election institute, in principle, works only in a small team, where all electors personally know the candidate for the post. In a large society, this does not work. But in a large society, it would be possible to at least ensure the reality of the voting process through the abolition of anonymity, so that each member of the public in the public domain could control whether his vote was correctly taken into account. But they will never refuse anonymity under the guise of taking care of us, in order to, like, protect those who voted for another from revenge of the victorious candidate.
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        Digital error (Eugene) 10 September 2019 21: 53
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        If one has already taken a course towards a tough position in foreign policy, the domestic should be consistent.

        Exactly. Who are we on the boards of directors of "national treasures" - foreign citizens, you say? Ah, these are the shareholders ... well then you can, of course.
    2. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 10 September 2019 14: 30
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      Kaaak interesting you reason! If you are NOT completely satisfied with the internal policy of the state in which you live, then isn’t it easier to change the country? Choose a state in which domestic politics will completely suit you. Explain, please, what kind of "pseudo-brotherly regimes beyond the hill" does our state contain? And you know such a thing as geopolitics (if you reduce this concept to simple Russian, it will turn out like this: “Who feeds a girl dances her!”).
      Regarding the "gangs" - are you going to tell me about where my son serves, protecting such PREDYPk0vs as you are at rallies that you illegally hold, interfering with all other citizens? And you didn’t think that if these “gangs” protect you, they will simply knead you in the mud? I’ve been scratching fists for such woodpeckers like you for a long time ... That would be great. if you guys in uniform to cover YOURSELF ceased !!! And almost all my friends and acquaintances agree with me. Who are we? And we are simple hard workers (locksmiths, builders, teachers, doctors ...), whom you do not allow to relax normally with your family the only weekend, we interfere with business on the road, we interfere with our cries (your head is already from you, idiots, it hurts) . You just give us the opportunity to remove these Rosguards from you - you will find out what the people think of you!
      Remember, creak liberda, as soon as the state ceases to protect you (or, God forbid, you manage to overthrow the "regime"), you will be destroyed, and, possibly, physically! And this is not a threat - it is a WARNING of the very people that you BROWSE and consider DREAM (which yell at every corner)!
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      Dear editors! I beg you, do not delete this comment until the citizen to whom it is intended does not read it! And there - at your discretion. These "figures" were already unbelted, insulting our intelligence officers and the state!
      .................................................. ................................ with uv. R.A.
      1. shpakov.alex Offline
        shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 10 September 2019 15: 27
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        Kaaak interestingly you argue! Well, let the ruling elite change their country, as it once fled in 1917, dropping slippers. Moreover, they already have everything there. And you, I see, the concept of "geopolitics" is known in some kind of perverted form. Well, the numbers in the studio, who owes us how much from foreign "friends of the regime" and who worked as an investment. And this whole banquet at the expense of their own people, from whom they took away and handed out to other countries and peoples. So ours has something to learn from the Anglo-Saxons and other "Germans."
        So who are the men (?) In uniform shielding !? And who was crippled and for what ?! You recall how the gendarmes a hundred years ago, people tore to pieces alive alive? And for what - to remind? You and your son are the defenders of thieves, and hiding behind false patriotism is your everything, but it won’t do it, just like it didn’t do for Cossacks and gendarmes in 1917.
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          A.Lex (Secret information) 20 September 2019 13: 03
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          And you do not equal those times and these. In those days, the working day of an ordinary worker in a factory was 10-12 hours. There’s nothing to say about payment. This alone reduced the life of the working people to 40-50 years. About child labor and child mortality, too? The attitude towards the working people until 1917 was like cattle. ... This was one of the reasons for the overthrow of the old system.
          The current situation is completely different. And if you are not happy with the current realities so much that you are ready to overthrow the government, then do you recall the 90s? Was everything wonderful then? And who were you at that time? And something tells me that you don’t know the realities of those years and they never threatened you with a barrel and did not rush at you with a knife. Because you don’t understand those who went through this. Whoever went through this NEVER, you hear, NEVER wants to return to the chaos that we had in the 90s and what Ukraine is going through now (but after all, by proposing the overthrow of the current authorities, you WANT TO open the Pandora’s box ONCE AGAIN these 90s ???). And therefore, we will resist this with all our might - right up to the help of the police and the Russian guard. If you are such a fan of Maidan - go to ukram. That's where your justice is! But we, who have passed the collapse once, do not want to repeat, and therefore (as the elections showed this time, and last times), no matter how (in your opinion) the power was corrupted, to be demolished by the Nazi (and any other) we will not allow coups. After all, it was people like you and others like you who supported the fight-drunk during the collapse of OUR Homeland in the early 90's. It’s your “Gaidars” then came and brought the country to such a state that months (if not days) remained before the collapse of central Russia. And the GDP managed to prevent this collapse with great difficulty. And now you decided to prove to me that he was wrong? Oh well...
          YOU HAVE LEAD THIS ELITE TO THE AUTHORITY (and its other institutions, as they are now) !!! And now she does not suit you again?
          Therefore, the warning (once) was already to you and like you in 2011. Then the punishment by the people passed you. There will be no other time. Your horns in the form of various "rains" and "echoes matzos" must be covered for a long time, as well as the Yekaterinburg eltsin center. And other non-governmental non-profit organizations, too. It is necessary to give a political, social, economic assessment of the 90th and the "creators" of the "free hand of the market." Whoever has the opportunity - to punish LAW! (and not as you suggest - overthrow)
          PS About the debts "RyzhYmu" - this is to those of your patrons from those same 90s who forgave these debts. But LDNR and Transnistria, with South Ossetia and Abkhazia - yes, these must be kept! These are OUR PEOPLE who did not want to be litter of amers (as their former owners - Ukrainians, Moldovans and Georgians). And we SHOULD them - because they were silent when they tore the USSR, did not defend HIS Homeland, did not defend them!
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      Joe Cook (Joe Cook) 15 September 2019 07: 12
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      Thank God that you and a handful of these are not the whole population of Russia.
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    Astronaut (San Sanych) 10 September 2019 18: 27
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    What is the point of concluding some kind of agreement with a country that does not comply with these agreements?
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    olbert (Albert) 10 September 2019 21: 37
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    The bloodiest conquerors:

    Alexander the Great - type Greek,
    Huns with Attila,
    Charlemagne is the first European integrator,
    Mongols of Genghis Khan,
    Uzbek Tamerlan,
    Ottoman butchers
    The conquistadors who destroyed the continent
    Napoleon Bonaparte - European Integrator No. 2,
    Eurocolonizers - slave trade, poisoning of peoples, exhaustion of resources,
    Japan, which killed about 30 million Chinese,
    Hitler Germany,
    USA - the extermination of the Indians, the slave trade, the bombing, coups, wars non-stop ...

    In general, the world is just groaning from Russian aggression ...
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      shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 11 September 2019 07: 58
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      That's right (plus I put it to you), but the Russians are moaning from Russian aggression. All the "great shakers of the universe" you have listed gathered their people in a gang and went to rob the neighbors. Their people, it seems, are in proportion out of business, and in slaves and indemnities the conquered neighbors walked. Now consider the Russian version - its population in slavery (fortress), but the “subjugated” neighbors are all the best for free at the expense of their own. Something I do not remember the serf Tatars, Chechens, Chukchi, Bashkirs and other nationalities. Everyone was given civilization, statehood, industry, energy, medicine, education, cities were rebuilt. And so for centuries, that under the kings, that under the communists, that under Putin, it begins again. The Russians are a strong people, but not two-armed and not stupid.
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      2. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 20 September 2019 13: 08
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        Therefore, the people will no longer allow the people (YOUR 90s have sufficed us) to power, because for you, "those who are in power", whoever has this power (except yourself) is not acceptable to you. Therefore, we will not allow any "bulk sables" to be close to power!
  5. First Name Last Name About (First Name Last Name) 11 September 2019 06: 34
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    Bad Americans, Syrians, Ukrainians, Georgians - but anyone, no matter what, demands from us some incredible filth, they interfere with life, and in general, breathe calmly! And the good ones, ours, loved ones to tears - just under this hype they raise prices, ages, and pull, pull, pull in your pocket! Another yacht is being built, another palace is being built - and? Silence ... But each sneeze and a bunch of very bad ones will be counted, and for each there will be a lengthy sheet of the article.
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    zenion (zinovy) 11 September 2019 13: 41
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    That's how the States make extracts from Hitler’s Mine Kapf and push them, posing as their thoughts.
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    Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 17 September 2019 12: 41
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    What remains for the United States to do? Yes, only to threaten and bribe bulk inside our country to weaken power. Nothing to deal with. We just have no other way but to go forward
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      A.Lex (Secret information) 20 September 2019 13: 12
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      And here are a few "shakateli power" belolentochny noted ...